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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 21:23:43 GMT -6
Are we surprised the Astros bullpen lost the lead? Why would we? It's become a regular occurrence. I hate the scoring rules where Stanek blows the lead costing Urquidy the win. Then, we score two in the 9th and Stanek, the only ineffective guy we sent out there, gets the win. Other than the three home runs, Urquidy was fantastic. Stanek comes in and give up a home run, blows the save, and gets the win. It's an injustice. I'm just glad the team got the win. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 21:25:22 GMT -6
Bregman needs to stop letting Altuve get all the power shots. Have some friendly competition. He is doing a good job in leading the team in hitting popups. He did make a fantastic play to get Sano in the 8th. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 21:28:08 GMT -6
The bottom of the order really came through in the 9th. Straw leads off with a single and scores on Maldy's double. Jose did a good job of getting Maldy to third so he could score on Michael's 4th hit of the game. We had clutch hits when we needed them.
Correa was horrible at the plate but made a great play to rob Cruz of a hit. The plays he and Bregman made kept Stanek from getting us behind going to the 9th. We desperately need a dependable set up man.
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Post by Saint on Jun 11, 2021 21:29:49 GMT -6
Not a great win but solid overall. This had the makings of a trap game but they fought through it with some great defense and timely enough hitting.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 21:31:52 GMT -6
Not a great win but solid overall. This had the makings of a trap game but they fought through it with some great defense and timely enough hitting. You have to win these type of games sometime. Urquidy gave up the home runs all were solo. He was great other than those.The great defense and clutch hits won it. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2021 21:38:01 GMT -6
I’m glad they thwarted Stanek’s attempts to give the bullpen another L.
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Post by m240 on Jun 11, 2021 21:47:15 GMT -6
God do we need an 8th inning guy. This team has a chance to be pretty damn good. The problem is who gets you to the 9th in those close games
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 21:48:07 GMT -6
I’m glad they thwarted Stanek’s attempts to give the bullpen another L. If not for those great plays made by Correa and Bregman, we would have gone to the 9th behind. Stanek was terrible but will get the win. I feel good about the next two with Garcia and Framber starting them. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 11, 2021 21:58:26 GMT -6
God do we need an 8th inning guy. This team has a chance to be pretty damn good. The problem is who gets you to the 9th in those close games |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2021 22:10:34 GMT -6
God do we need an 8th inning guy. This team has a chance to be pretty damn good. The problem is who gets you to the 9th in those close games All the heavy hitters on that team did was hunt fastballs tonight. Very bad pitch decision by Stanek to Donaldson. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2021 22:10:58 GMT -6
God do we need an 8th inning guy. This team has a chance to be pretty damn good. The problem is who gets you to the 9th in those close games You didn’t like Dan Miceli? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 11, 2021 22:17:00 GMT -6
This team reminds me of the 2004 team in that regard You didn’t like Dan Miceli? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2021 22:29:44 GMT -6
You didn’t like Dan Miceli? Beltrán was worth it. Both times. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2021 22:30:30 GMT -6
You didn’t like Dan Miceli? Trading Wagner was just stupid. Uncle Drayton took that one personally. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 22:33:11 GMT -6
It wasn't his fault. We traded Wagner, and Dotel to get Beltran and it took another year for Qualls and Wheeler to establish themselves Beltrán was worth it. Both times. I never liked "No balls" Qualls. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 22:34:52 GMT -6
It wasn't his fault. We traded Wagner, and Dotel to get Beltran and it took another year for Qualls and Wheeler to establish themselves Trading Wagner was just stupid. Uncle Drayton took that one personally. Yes, The old fool got pissed because Wagner spoke out about Drayton not letting them get any help at the trade deadline. Every time I heard Drayton spew that "Make us a champion" BS I wanted to vomit. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 11, 2021 22:35:59 GMT -6
It wasn't his fault. We traded Wagner, and Dotel to get Beltran and it took another year for Qualls and Wheeler to establish themselves Trading Wagner was just stupid. Uncle Drayton took that one personally. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2021 22:50:06 GMT -6
Trading Wagner was just stupid. Uncle Drayton took that one personally. Wagner should’ve been a lifelong Astro. As for Kent, he was neglected by Drayton because he wanted to go for broke on Beltrán, which ended up being fruitless. Kent couldn’t wait forever and signed elsewhere. I think he went to the Dodgers. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 11, 2021 23:02:58 GMT -6
He pinched pennies when his team was on the cusp of a title. He saved Billy's $9M to pay Pettitte, and didn't pick up Kent's option 12 months later so he could pay Roger. I don't think anyone would argue the 2005 team wouldn't have won it all if it'd had Kent and Wagner in the fold Wagner should’ve been a lifelong Astro. As for Kent, he was neglected by Drayton because he wanted to go for broke on Beltrán, which ended up being fruitless. Kent couldn’t wait forever and signed elsewhere. I think he went to the Dodgers. Drayton's penny pinching probably cost us a title in 2005. There was no way he was going to outbid a NY team for Beltran. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 11, 2021 23:10:55 GMT -6
His decisions also led to the club losing one of the best GMs in MLB at that time
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 12, 2021 9:30:08 GMT -6
His decisions also led to the club losing one of the best GMs in MLB at that time Yes, he forced Hunsicker out because Gerry got sick of his meddling and refusing to let him sign players we needed. Then, he replaced Hunsicker with the Pillsbury Doughboy, Tim Purpura, who was a standing joke. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 12, 2021 9:30:19 GMT -6
His decisions also led to the club losing one of the best GMs in MLB at that time Only astrohop hated Hunsicker. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 12, 2021 9:42:03 GMT -6
His decisions also led to the club losing one of the best GMs in MLB at that time Only astrohop hated Hunsicker. There is always at least one hater |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 12, 2021 9:43:57 GMT -6
Luhnow or Hunsicker, the Astros best GM ever?
I am a big fan of both...Luhnow did bring the Astros a championship... Hunsicker took the Astros to the World Series, and he had Drayton as his owner, which is a feat in itself.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 12, 2021 10:00:06 GMT -6
Luhnow or Hunsicker, the Astros best GM ever? I am a big fan of both...Luhnow did bring the Astros a championship... Hunsicker took the Astros to the World Series, and he had Drayton as his owner, which is a feat in itself. Hunsicker would have been great with Crane as the owner like Luhnow was. All GM's make questionable moves like Luhnow trading for Fiers and Gomez. He also got Yordan for Josh Fields. Luhnow and Hunsicker were the top two GM's the Astros ever had. Click has yet to show he is close to being as good as either of them. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 12, 2021 10:30:55 GMT -6
Luhnow or Hunsicker, the Astros best GM ever? I am a big fan of both...Luhnow did bring the Astros a championship... Hunsicker took the Astros to the World Series, and he had Drayton as his owner, which is a feat in itself. Hunsicker would have been great with Crane as the owner like Luhnow was. All GM's make questionable moves like Luhnow trading for Fiers and Gomez. He also got Yordan for Josh Fields. Luhnow and Hunsicker were the top two GM's the Astros ever had. Click has yet to show he is close to being as good as either of them. I think Click has done a good job, but too early to rank with the best two ever. In 3 more years, then maybe we can determine if he should be part of the discussion. He can start with pulling off a trade for two relievers by the trade deadline. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 12, 2021 11:50:58 GMT -6
Hunsicker would have been great with Crane as the owner like Luhnow was. All GM's make questionable moves like Luhnow trading for Fiers and Gomez. He also got Yordan for Josh Fields. Luhnow and Hunsicker were the top two GM's the Astros ever had. Click has yet to show he is close to being as good as either of them. I think Click has done a good job, but too early to rank with the best two ever. In 3 more years, then maybe we can determine if he should be part of the discussion. He can start with pulling off a trade for two relievers by the trade deadline. Problem with pulling off the trade for the relievers is he has very little to offer to get them. I am not for dealing any top prospects like a Korey Lee, Pedro Leon, Jose Siri, or those guys. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 12, 2021 12:07:03 GMT -6
I think Click has done a good job, but too early to rank with the best two ever. In 3 more years, then maybe we can determine if he should be part of the discussion. He can start with pulling off a trade for two relievers by the trade deadline. Problem with pulling off the trade for the relievers is he has very little to offer to get them. I am not for dealing any top prospects like a Korey Lee, Pedro Leon, Jose Siri, or those guys. I'm still curious of Forrest Whitley's trade value |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 12, 2021 12:15:11 GMT -6
Problem with pulling off the trade for the relievers is he has very little to offer to get them. I am not for dealing any top prospects like a Korey Lee, Pedro Leon, Jose Siri, or those guys. I'm still curious of Forrest Whitley's trade value I see no current trade value in Forrest. Best we can hope for is a full recovery from surgery and maybe he can be a piece for the future. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 12, 2021 12:27:36 GMT -6
Problem with pulling off the trade for the relievers is he has very little to offer to get them. I am not for dealing any top prospects like a Korey Lee, Pedro Leon, Jose Siri, or those guys. I'm still curious of Forrest Whitley's trade value I would dangle him out there and find out. |
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