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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 13, 2021 18:10:55 GMT -6
I figured I'd start this thread just in case anyone wanted to post about it.
Personally I might tune into this occasionally, but I won't be watching from beginning to end.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 13, 2021 18:22:58 GMT -6
I can tell Mlb is trying to go the way of the Nba and get that Asian money. I am not sure Fox knows anyone outside of Ohtani is playing.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 13, 2021 18:27:22 GMT -6
Now they are comparing Ohtani to Babe Ruth. Little premature imo.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 13, 2021 19:05:43 GMT -6
Both Fox and MLB network thinks Ohtani is the only player on the planet. After all the hype about the home run derby, he was eliminated in the first round. They DH him and lead him off while pitching so he can be the "first" to do it. I'm sick of hearing about Ohtani. His team won't make the post season. Other than Ohtani, we are getting Guerrero Jr. handed to us.....he won't make the post-season either. The only one of these young "phenoms" as they are being called with a shot at the post season is Tatis Jr.
I don't even like to watch a game of any sport when Joe Buck is doing play by play. He slobbers all over the big media market teams and takes shots at the other ones.
I will check in from time to time, but, I'd rather watch an old western movie.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 13, 2021 19:06:55 GMT -6
Now they are comparing Ohtani to Babe Ruth. Little premature imo. Ohtani shouldn't be in the conversation with Ruth or any of the greats until he proves he belongs there. I see All Star pitchers tonight that the Astros have hammered. LOL |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2021 21:28:07 GMT -6
Now they are comparing Ohtani to Babe Ruth. Little premature imo. In terms of a two-way player, I think the comparison has merit. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 14, 2021 6:54:20 GMT -6
Now they are comparing Ohtani to Babe Ruth. Little premature imo. Way premature. Ohtani doesn't have a candy bar named after him. I happened to check in during the Vlad Jr AB. Wow. I know the thin Denver air causes the ball to carry farther but the quickness of the swing and the crack of the bat hitting the ball was stunning. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 14, 2021 8:11:30 GMT -6
Who won? And does it still affect home-field advantage?
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2021 8:19:53 GMT -6
Who won? And does it still affect home-field advantage? AL won 5-2. Not sure. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 8:31:08 GMT -6
Ohtani and Japan won.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 14, 2021 8:34:00 GMT -6
I'm sick of hearing about Ohtani. His team won't make the post season. Other than Ohtani, we are getting Guerrero Jr. handed to us.....he won't make the post-season either. Yeah, and shame on those people back in '94, '95, and '96 making a big fuss over Bagwell and Biggio. Their team didn't make the postseason during those years! lol Yes, the Ohtani talk is at a level that becomes a bit tedious. But he is an anomaly. When was the last season a starting pitcher led all of baseball in HR total and slugging percentage? |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 14, 2021 8:41:31 GMT -6
Who won? And does it still affect home-field advantage? AL won 5-2. Not sure. League winning the ASG having home field advantage in the WS ended in 2016. Now it's the team with the best regular-season record. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 14, 2021 8:48:44 GMT -6
I'm sick of hearing about Ohtani. His team won't make the post season. Other than Ohtani, we are getting Guerrero Jr. handed to us.....he won't make the post-season either. Yeah, and shame on those people back in '94, '95, and '96 making a big fuss over Bagwell and Biggio. Their team didn't make the postseason during those years! lol Yes, the Ohtani talk is at a level that becomes a bit tedious. But he is an anomaly. When was the last season a starting pitcher led all of baseball in HR total and slugging percentage? He is a great player. Not good, but great. My deal is that there are several great ones, not just him. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 14, 2021 8:49:21 GMT -6
Stephen W. Smith thinks Ohtani is bougey for not speaking Engrish |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 8:49:47 GMT -6
Ohtani is very impressive and he's bringing a lot of positive attention to baseball. I just can't imagine that he is going to be able to maintain both sides of the game though. At some point he'll have to pick a side.
Zimmerman brought up a good idea that I agree with. Just make him your closer rather than trying to work him into the rotation and wearing him out more. He could be the first 30 HR/30 Save player in history.
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 8:50:42 GMT -6
Stephen W. Smith thinks Ohtani is bougey for not speaking Engrish Smith is garbage and has been for a very long time. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 14, 2021 8:56:54 GMT -6
Stephen W. Smith thinks Ohtani is bougey for not speaking Engrish Smith is garbage and has been for a very long time. And will almost certainly get away with his purely racist comments. He sounded exactly like a particular poster on this forum. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 14, 2021 8:58:02 GMT -6
Stephen W. Smith thinks Ohtani is bougey for not speaking Engrish Yeah, he got hit tit caught in the wringer on that one. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 9:01:54 GMT -6
Smith is garbage and has been for a very long time. And will almost certainly get away with his purely racist comments. He sounded exactly like a particular poster on this forum. He'll certainly get away it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 14, 2021 9:26:47 GMT -6
After finishing laughing at the continued insults and attempts to cause problems, I think we all know the primary reason that Ohtani is getting all the media attention. The comparison to Babe Ruth was way over the top. He's yet to prove he's a better pitcher than Chen Ho Park. This is the first season he hasn't spent most of his time on the IL.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 14, 2021 9:29:51 GMT -6
Ohtani is very impressive and he's bringing a lot of positive attention to baseball. I just can't imagine that he is going to be able to maintain both sides of the game though. At some point he'll have to pick a side. Zimmerman brought up a good idea that I agree with. Just make him your closer rather than trying to work him into the rotation and wearing him out more. He could be the first 30 HR/30 Save player in history. An ace or even a MoR Starting pitcher is worth a helluva lot more than any reliever. Let him continue what he's doing until/unless his effectiveness as a starting pitcher fades. Then, and only then, consider using him as a reliever. ... or if he's still crushing baseballs but isn't pitching so well, maybe move him to the outfield. But teach him to say and understand: "I got it ... I GOT IT!" "私はそれを手に入れました...私はそれを手に入れました！" ain't gonna work. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 9:36:03 GMT -6
After finishing laughing at the continued insults and attempts to cause problems, I think we all know the primary reason that Ohtani is getting all the media attention. The comparison to Babe Ruth was way over the top. He's yet to prove he's a better pitcher than Chen Ho Park. This is the first season he hasn't spent most of his time on the IL. Actually over their first 120 IP, Ohtani is significantly better than Chan Ho Park. And while I agree from a health standpoint, the guy is a legitimate elite hitter with a career OPS of .900. So a .900 OPS hitter (137 OPS+) and a career 3.89 ERA (115 ERA+) through over 300 games now. The only other player to do that was Babe Ruth. So, while comparisons to Ruth are premature, you can see why they're making the comparison. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 9:37:08 GMT -6
Ohtani is very impressive and he's bringing a lot of positive attention to baseball. I just can't imagine that he is going to be able to maintain both sides of the game though. At some point he'll have to pick a side. Zimmerman brought up a good idea that I agree with. Just make him your closer rather than trying to work him into the rotation and wearing him out more. He could be the first 30 HR/30 Save player in history. An ace or even a MoR Starting pitcher is worth a helluva lot more than any reliever. Let him continue what he's doing until/unless his effectiveness as a starting pitcher fades. Then, and only then, consider using him as a reliever. ... or if he's still crushing baseballs but isn't pitching so well, maybe move him to the outfield. But teach him to say and understand: "I got it ... I GOT IT!" "私はそれを手に入れました...私はそれを手に入れました！" ain't gonna work. Obviously starters are more valuable, but a closing role might give him considerable more length in a pitching career. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 14, 2021 9:40:36 GMT -6
After finishing laughing at the continued insults and attempts to cause problems, I think we all know the primary reason that Ohtani is getting all the media attention. The comparison to Babe Ruth was way over the top. He's yet to prove he's a better pitcher than Chen Ho Park. This is the first season he hasn't spent most of his time on the IL. Yeah, it's a tale as old as time itself.  |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 14, 2021 10:15:16 GMT -6
Asian athletes not speaking English appears to be a bone of contention with African-American commentators. I remember Charles Barkley lodging the same complaint about Yao Ming the day the Rockets drafted him
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2021 10:24:35 GMT -6
And will almost certainly get away with his purely racist comments. He sounded exactly like a particular poster on this forum. He'll certainly get away it. Wokeass ESPN will punish the white female Rachel Nichols over the black male Stephen A. Smith. #equality |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 14, 2021 11:08:31 GMT -6
After finishing laughing at the continued insults and attempts to cause problems, I think we all know the primary reason that Ohtani is getting all the media attention. The comparison to Babe Ruth was way over the top. He's yet to prove he's a better pitcher than Chen Ho Park. This is the first season he hasn't spent most of his time on the IL. Actually over their first 120 IP, Ohtani is significantly better than Chan Ho Park. And while I agree from a health standpoint, the guy is a legitimate elite hitter with a career OPS of .900. So a .900 OPS hitter (137 OPS+) and a career 3.89 ERA (115 ERA+) through over 300 games now. The only other player to do that was Babe Ruth. So, while comparisons to Ruth are premature, you can see why they're making the comparison. Sooner or later the Angels are going to have to decide if he is going to continue pitching and being the DH or if he specializes. I think he's more beneficial to them as a hitter. The Angels haven't contended for a long time because they spend most of the money signing high-priced, free agent position players and ignoring their lack of pitching. It's nice to have Ohtani, Trout, and Rendon, but, that pitching staff is not going to get them to the post season. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 14, 2021 11:12:19 GMT -6
I think each franchise should hire people to teach Hispanic, Japanese, and Korean players to speak and understand English. It would be beneficial in many ways. It is good that interpreters are provided to translate for the players, but, it would be better if they could speak for themselves. Of course, this should not be a requirement for them playing, but, it would certainly be helpful.
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 13:29:40 GMT -6
He'll certainly get away it. Wokeass ESPN will punish the white female Rachel Nichols over the black male Stephen A. Smith. #equality Yeah but us whitees deserve it, duh. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2021 13:34:38 GMT -6
All I'll say is that if I went to Japan or Korea to play baseball, I'm certainly not taking the time to learn Japanese or Korean. So it would be hard for me to hold it against foreign players not learning English.
If I intended to stay there permanently, different story. But if I'm just there for baseball season? Nah.
That being said, with the huge influx of Hispanic players, I think it would be beneficial for both English AND Spanish classes to be held (at least regarding baseball terms) in the minor leagues and ST. Not only would it help both sides communicate better, but it would likely be a bonding experience.
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