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Post by koolade2 on Jun 26, 2018 17:52:17 GMT -6
In case most missed it Trump won with the Supremes today. On the Immigration and restriction of who wants to ban.
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 26, 2018 18:04:23 GMT -6
Last couple days while installing some new packaging equipment I was working with a young man (28) from El Salvador. He came here when he was 8 with his parents on a tourist visa and while here they applied to stay. His parents finally after 10+ plus years earned Citizenship. He and I were talking about the whole situation going on and even he said it wasn't fair to his parents and any other person who did it legally. He said what even pisses him off more, they risk Life and Limb to get here and want to keep the same way like it was back home. Walking thru the Desert and dealing with gangs and women getting raped and Yet they want to keep here like back home. Why come here then. by the way, I joked that he speaks English better than I do. Having moved all over this country when I was young, I never attended the same school for more than a year. Numerous states with different accents. As most of you can attest too especially The Armed Frog.
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Post by talshill on Jun 27, 2018 10:37:31 GMT -6
I give you Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Georgia:
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Post by talshill on Jun 27, 2018 10:50:11 GMT -6
Lest you think that last video was an anomaly:
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 27, 2018 11:26:01 GMT -6
I've lived in a foreign country for 24 years and if I had any time been found not to have a valid passport and visa, I'd have been detained and quickly deported. Not one local would have any sympathy for my case.
As a foreign resident, I am not entitled to free education for my kids, state health insurance, free food, or any other tangible benefit. I am welcome to work here as long as I can fund my family's needs and that means private education, private health insurance, paying full price at the grocery store, etc. If I don't like it, I am welcome to leave.
It's always seemed a fair deal to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 11:32:52 GMT -6
I've lived in a foreign country for 24 years and if I had any time been found not to have a valid passport and visa, I'd have been detained and quickly deported. Not one local would have any sympathy for my case. As a foreign resident, I am not entitled to free education for my kids, state health insurance, free food, or any other tangible benefit. I am welcome to work here as long as I can fund my family's needs and that means private education, private health insurance, paying full price at the grocery store, etc. If I don't like it, I am welcome to leave. It's always seemed a fair deal to me. Exactly.... The entitlement driven society that is allowed here for free stuff for the taking has resulted in a $21T credit card bill that this country will never be able to pay off. When this house of cards collapses, its going to be beyond ugly.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 27, 2018 11:53:22 GMT -6
Maxine Waters acting like a moron is certainly not new. SHE IS A MORON. It's not an act, it's who she is.
I suspect Pelosi is just another Washington Lush with connections who no longer hides her inebriation well.
Maxine and Pelosi are both morons........I remember hearing Waters say that "Putin invaded Korea" and Pelosi says Trump violates the "rights of illegals"...........I guess she is too stupid to realize that illegals have no rights since they broke the law by coming here. There is a stupid woman in Congress representing part of the Houston area.......Sheila Jackson Lee is as stupid as Maxine or Pelosi. She has been quoted as saying "homicide is the leading cause of murder" and the "Constitution is out-dated because it is about 400 years old." All three are idiots who have no business in Congress. The only one who are dumber than those three are the fools who keep re-electing them. I'm afraid Pelosi is beyond dumb... she's downright evil. Her "pizza parlor" serves a lot more than pizza... one reason she supports the uninterrupted flow of illegals is so she can traffick the cute little kids to perverts. lindapariscrimeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/PelosiShitHole-1024x1024.jpg
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Post by talshill on Jun 30, 2018 7:46:32 GMT -6
This sums it up pretty well. It's long, but he nails it. Well worth your time to listen:
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 30, 2018 13:03:22 GMT -6
Pathetic.........illegals break the law and the damn liberals hold protests all around the country to cry and curse the Trump administration for trying to enforce the law. Why the hell is Maxine Waters not been arrested for advocating violence? That old bitch should have been silenced by now.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 30, 2018 20:59:17 GMT -6
My wife came from Mexico the right way. She was only 6 months old when they came here. They did it the legal way. So should everybody else.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 30, 2018 22:14:58 GMT -6
My wife came from Mexico the right way. She was only 6 months old when they came here. They did it the legal way. So should everybody else. I agree. I have no problem with immigration as long as it is legal. I just don't see why so many people are stupid enough to think Trump is wrong to enforce the law.
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Post by m240 on Jul 1, 2018 7:25:51 GMT -6
It is really hard to argue with e-verify. If there are no jobs then no one comes. If there becomes a labor shortage then the number that are allowed legally goes up. The enforcement is the only shortfall and if you use the fines to fund some part of government that progressives like then it is a winner all around. The problem is it is a fix and no one wants to fix it.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 1, 2018 7:53:56 GMT -6
I think a lot of libs/Dems will be shocked by some of the news that comes out before the November elections. To the point that many of them won't be voting Democrat in those elections.
Some of it will be related to immigration, most of it not.
The same forthcoming news is already causing many incumbents (both R's and D's) to not run for re-election. The result is going to be not only a Republican landslide, but also a process of replacing the crooked R's with good R's.
Having lived in a country with a one-party dictatorship, I can say that America really ought not go down the path of a one-party Republican state, as benign as it might seem at first, in the wake of the Democratic Party's fall into disgrace. The benign nature of one-party states never lasts long. What is likely to happen is that we get a real multi-party system supplanting the old two-party system.
If you ever dreamed of founding your own party or running for office, the next 5 years are a good time to do it.
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Post by m240 on Jul 1, 2018 8:26:45 GMT -6
those on the right really need to push e-verify the way the left pushes open borders. Otherwise we will have open borders and bye bye Republic.
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Post by m240 on Jul 1, 2018 8:34:08 GMT -6
I think a lot of libs/Dems will be shocked by some of the news that comes out before the November elections. To the point that many of them won't be voting Democrat in those elections. Some of it will be related to immigration, most of it not. The same forthcoming news is already causing many incumbents (both R's and D's) to not run for re-election. The result is going to be not only a Republican landslide, but also a process of replacing the crooked R's with good R's. Having lived in a country with a one-party dictatorship, I can say that America really ought not go down the path of a one-party Republican state, as benign as it might seem at first, in the wake of the Democratic Party's fall into disgrace. The benign nature of one-party states never lasts long. What is likely to happen is that we get a real multi-party system supplanting the old two-party system. If you ever dreamed of founding your own party or running for office, the next 5 years are a good time to do it. We already have one party rule. The democrats push the country to the left and the republicans push the pause button every eight years. Make no mistake the progressives are the party that has to be squashed. At least if you like the bill or rights.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 1, 2018 9:11:24 GMT -6
People are starting to wake up to who is behind the illegal immigration movement, and are not so afraid as before of talking about it publicly.
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Post by m240 on Jul 1, 2018 10:01:41 GMT -6
who caused it is a blame game that keeps us from forcing the solution as it keeps us divided trying to assign blame. I am as guilty as anyone. Really we need to get behind a solution. If you try to stop folks from coming by building a wall or by putting them in jail for trying to find a better life then you are heartless. If you put the folks in jail who are profiting by keeping Americans wages low and forcing these practices the only people who should fight it are the special interests whose arguments are easily broken.
E-verify and when you have three strikes go to jail. Put a few business men in jail for preying on the poor and things will change.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 1, 2018 10:03:24 GMT -6
I never thought I’d do this, but here’s a ridiculous interview I saw the other day.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 1, 2018 10:05:08 GMT -6
And can they stop using the term “dreamers” to describe immigrants? If I were an expatriate living here, I’d hate being called that.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 1, 2018 10:09:41 GMT -6
Guess who cooked up the "dreamers" terminology. Along with "conspiracy theory" and a dozen other terms used to make patriotic Americans turn against each other and dumb one another down over the years.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 1, 2018 10:13:43 GMT -6
Guess who cooked up the "dreamers" terminology. Along with "conspiracy theory" and a dozen other terms used to make patriotic Americans turn against each other and dumb one another down over the years. I’d be asking people to call me an illegal rather than a dreamer. The term is SO geared toward a politician’s agenda rather than the person who may want to go about it the right way to avoid deportation. I just can’t relate to citizens who have nothing in common with these immigrants acting like they have some make-believe kinship or bond with them. It’s like those white people in the BLM movement. Give me a break.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 1, 2018 10:15:10 GMT -6
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 1, 2018 10:22:16 GMT -6
Guess who cooked up the "dreamers" terminology. Along with "conspiracy theory" and a dozen other terms used to make patriotic Americans turn against each other and dumb one another down over the years. I’d be asking people to call me an illegal rather than a dreamer. The term is SO geared toward a politician’s agenda rather than the person who may want to go about it the right way to avoid deportation. I just can’t relate to citizens who have nothing in common with these immigrants acting like they have some make-believe kinship or bond with them. It’s like those white people in the BLM movement. Give me a break. These are all people who read Orwell's '1984' as a manual on good governance rather than a warning. The manipulation of linguistics to control social discourse, it's all in there. Orwell didn't invent that idea on his own. The earliest example I can think of it is the Chinese government's "Rectification of Names" campaign which goes back to the times of Confucius, 2500 years ago or so.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 1, 2018 10:43:37 GMT -6
And can they stop using the term “dreamers” to describe immigrants? If I were an expatriate living here, I’d hate being called that. These people are not dreamers. They are criminals and many are on welfare and food stamps plus getting to vote illegally
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 1, 2018 12:09:52 GMT -6
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 1, 2018 14:33:24 GMT -6
Astrodoug You do know who funds Snopes I hope. Cannot trust Snopes as it far left wing as possible.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 2, 2018 11:15:35 GMT -6
If I posted my honest opinion about the perfect solution to solve most of the BS going on today,I would be arrested. Barack Obama is behind every bit of this anti-Trump crap becasuse he can't stand the fact that Trump is proving what an incompetent, racist piece of filth Obama really is. If we could round him and his gang of fools........Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, etc......up and give them what they deserve, a lot of this bullshit would cease to exist.
Once we get a SCOTUS that is dominated by conservatives, we can effectively kill most of the liberal agenda.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 11:20:55 GMT -6
Mexico has elected a far left presidente'.
Don't be surprised to see the southern border as. a semi-war zone in a few years.
Either via mass exodus for the same reason Venezuela is seeing. or armed border skirmishes against an enemy combatant.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 2, 2018 11:33:52 GMT -6
I thought this scene is a sign of the times. People are fed up and until Soros/Hillary/Kissinger and that group stand down (or get locked up at Guantanamo), we will probably see more of this kind of thing. That happened in Portland a few days ago. The guy who delivered the knockout punch is named Rufio; he was arrested on suspicion of assault but later released since the other guy came at him first with a stick/baton of some kind. The fate of the Antifa idiot was pretty grim -- broken skull and permanent brain damage. Last I heard was he may live the rest of his life in a semi-vegetative state. Soros is giving these young communists just barely enough streetfighting training to go and get themselves killed. Then again, communist regimes have always looked at life cheaply. And if anybody doubted Antifa is anything other than the modern communist party in America, A tried and true idea for dealing with Antifa would be this
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 2, 2018 11:42:08 GMT -6
Mexico has elected a far left presidente'. Don't be surprised to see the southern border as. a semi-war zone in a few years. Either via mass exodus for the same reason Venezuela is seeing. or armed border skirmishes against an enemy combatant. He's openly telling poor people in his country to flood the border. Considering many of those people he is inciting are MS-13 paramilitary types, it's kinda sorta like declaring war on the USA theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/22/mexicos-next-president-tells-country-they-must-leave-their-towns-and-find-a-life-in-the-united-states/ “And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.” He then declared it as “a human right we will defend.”Back in the days of Andrew Jackson and Zach Taylor, people weren't so inclined to split hairs and get legalistic. A declaration of war is a declaration of war, and ought to be responded to as such.
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