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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 13:49:24 GMT -6
Stop being a pouty b*tch. If Odorizzi is our biggest problem, I'm not too concerned. I'm more frustrated at throwing Robel out there every day. That's temporary. I really doubt Robel will even be on the bench in few weeks. We should be concerned about Odorizzi. Strom needs to look at why he's been ineffective and find a solution. Even if Strom has the solution and shows it to Jake, it's still up to Jake to make the corrections. I am sick of Odorizzi talking like he knows what the problem is but keeps doing the same crap instead of making the adjustments. When Bregman is activated, I'm sure Robel is history. I would bring up somebody....probably Wilson......right now and send him down or release him. He's a joke. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 13:53:50 GMT -6
Because he isn't a roleplayer at this point. He is playing every day. And we DO have better options. Because any option would be better than what he has done. Unlike Odorizzi, he has NEVER been good. Again, what odorizzi did years ago is irrelevant. Whatever Odorizzi or any other player did in the past doesn't mean shit regarding what he is doing now. It's NOW that's important. Hell, if Odorizzi won two Cy Youngs in the past, he still sucks now. He either needs to get things turned around or be taken out of the rotation. We'd be better off having a bullpen day than running him out there to give up four home runs before they can get him out of there. The Dodgers scored 7, all against him in three innings. Even Raley pitched a scoreless inning. LOL |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 13:55:53 GMT -6
If your rotation for the playoffs is so good that Garcia and Javier are in the bullpen, you're doing something right. That's a damn good pitching staff. No one is complaining about the rotation. We are complaining about the 2nd coming of Jason Jennings from last night. You need at least five lashes with Odorizzi's towel for mentioning Jason Jennings. I thought of Jennings and Woody Williams while watching Odorizzi throw BP last night. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 13:58:54 GMT -6
In the NL, pitchers have to hit and are used to it. In the AL, they aren't used to it. And in the WS, AL pitchers have to hit in NL parks, Sunshine. Oh but let's not let a starter have a chance to get used to it, because the sky might fall!  Forrest Gump, I KNOW that AL pitchers MUST hit in NL parks during the WS. However, they will NOT be used as pinch hitters. You can argue until hell freezes over and you will still be WRONG by thinking Dusty's move to pinch hit McCullers was the right thing. NOBODY agrees with you.....You are wrong. Forget it and move on. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 5, 2021 14:04:32 GMT -6
Because putting De Goti on the roster would start his clock. The cup of coffee he had was under Covid rule so it didn't start his clock. And no, only one of those three would be better than Robel. (3) (1) would be worse. (2) would be just a change for the sake of change. We WILL see Jacob Wilson. "Patience is a virgin" -- Archie Bunker De Goti is 26yo. Who cares about starting his clock? Any GM in baseball would be concerned with starting a player's clock to deal with a TEMPORARY problem. When you do that, you permanently tie up a 40-man slot for that player and start burning options if he doesn't stay in the show. Also, the only way to free up that 40-man spot for a player in a different position you might need is if he goes on the DL-60 or you DFA him. Also, from July 1 through now, Di Goti slashed .196/ .308/ .284/ .593 in the MINOR LEAGUES. I really don't think he's currently the answer. However, I do think Jacob Wilson IS. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 14:09:34 GMT -6
If Odorizzi is all we have to worry about concerning our pitchers in the post-season, we are in good shape, especially if we have a healthy Urquidy available. We can either use him in long relief, not at all, or leave him off the roster the way Hinch did Mike Fiers when he sucked. I'd start Luis Garcia over Odorizzi in a heartbeat in a post-season game. I'd go with this rotation:
McCullers
Valdez
Greinke
Urquidy/ Garcia
We only need 4 starters in a post-season series. Put Odorizzi in the pen with either Urquidy or Garcia. Then, you have Pressly, Graveman, Stanek, Taylor, Maton, Yimi Garcia, and maybe Baez or Montero. We don't know what to expect from Baez or what we can keep getting from Montero. Javier's status is questionable........Forget Raley.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 14:10:32 GMT -6
De Goti is 26yo. Who cares about starting his clock? Any GM in baseball would be concerned with starting a player's clock to deal with a TEMPORARY problem. When you do that, you permanently tie up a 40-man slot for that player and start burning options if he doesn't stay in the show. Also, the only way to free up that 40-man spot for a player in a different position you might need is if he goes on the DL-60 or you DFA him. Also, from July 1 through now, Di Goti slashed .196/ .308/ .284/ .593 in the MINOR LEAGUES. I really don't think he's currently the answer. However, I do think Jacob Wilson IS. I"d have Wilson ready for tonight's game and Robel would be driving to Sugar Land. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 5, 2021 14:12:34 GMT -6
I KNOW that AL pitchers MUST hit in NL parks during the WS. However, they will NOT be used as pinch hitters. Oh I see. So since Lance got an extra bit of plate experience facing a tough pitcher, that won't be of any use to him when his turn comes up in the batting order, since that plate appearance was as a PINCH hitter!!! You're so amusing when you're being clueless, Sunshine.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 14:46:19 GMT -6
I KNOW that AL pitchers MUST hit in NL parks during the WS. However, they will NOT be used as pinch hitters. Oh I see. So since Lance got an extra bit of plate experience facing a tough pitcher, that won't be of any use to him when his turn comes up in the batting order, since that plate appearance was as a PINCH hitter!!! You're so amusing when you're being clueless, Sunshine. I haven't noticed anyone agreeing with you, Forrest. You are the one who is clueless.......give it up and do something you are good at....posting useless photos and videos. NOBODY here thinks you are right by thinking Dusty should have used Lance to pinch hit. For once, admit you are wrong and stop showing your ignorance. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 5, 2021 15:11:03 GMT -6
I haven't noticed anyone agreeing with you, Forrest. True, but the only ones who are agreeing with you are the voices in your empty little head. rahahaha |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 5, 2021 15:48:16 GMT -6
I guess Bitches gonna Bitch. And not a f***ing thing you can do about it. Maybe a suggestion Take two Midol and eat a Snickers bar, and you will feel right as rain. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2021 16:11:18 GMT -6
I haven't noticed anyone agreeing with you, Forrest. True, but the only ones who are agreeing with you are the voices in your empty little head. rahahaha At least one poster has definitely agreed with me....NOBODY has agreed with you, Forrest. I want you to give us a detailed analysis of why ONE at bat in early August is going to be of great benefit to McCullers in October. We anxiously await.  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 5, 2021 17:25:12 GMT -6
And not a f***ing thing you can do about it. Maybe a suggestion Take two Midol and eat a Snickers bar, and you will feel right as rain. Don’t worry. Strom will fix him. |
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 5, 2021 17:37:47 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Aug 5, 2021 18:35:03 GMT -6
De Goti is 26yo. Who cares about starting his clock? Any GM in baseball would be concerned with starting a player's clock to deal with a TEMPORARY problem. When you do that, you permanently tie up a 40-man slot for that player and start burning options if he doesn't stay in the show. Also, the only way to free up that 40-man spot for a player in a different position you might need is if he goes on the DL-60 or you DFA him. Also, from July 1 through now, Di Goti slashed .196/ .308/ .284/ .593 in the MINOR LEAGUES. I really don't think he's currently the answer. However, I do think Jacob Wilson IS. Temporary? He's been with the team almost all season. Our IF depth is terrible so improvements are needed. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 5, 2021 18:44:43 GMT -6
OMG you guys are worse than girls fighting over some dude |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 5, 2021 18:52:52 GMT -6
Maybe a suggestion Take two Midol and eat a Snickers bar, and you will feel right as rain. Don’t worry. Strom will fix him. He doesn't need fixing, he lost his ability long time ago |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 5, 2021 18:53:18 GMT -6
OMG you guys are worse than girls fighting over some dude Yes, I'm a fan of Strom. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 5, 2021 20:02:23 GMT -6
OMG you guys are worse than girls fighting over some dude If it is only between me and Thomas then I got this. I would kick his ass. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 6, 2021 7:29:53 GMT -6
Don’t worry. Strom will fix him. He doesn't need fixing, he lost his ability long time ago Aww, are you trying to hurt my feelings? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2021 7:36:52 GMT -6
He doesn't need fixing, he lost his ability long time ago Aww, are you trying to hurt my feelings? Nope, can't hurt something that you don't have. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2021 9:48:52 GMT -6
Are we all getting angry about Brent Strom? Of all the lame things to be upset about on this forum…
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 6, 2021 10:05:09 GMT -6
Are we all getting angry about Brent Strom? Of all the lame things to be upset about on this forum… No, we all aren't. Just the Chief Strom Sycophant, thomasj13 getting mad and calling people bitches. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2021 10:16:27 GMT -6
Are we all getting angry about Brent Strom? Of all the lame things to be upset about on this forum… No, we all aren't. Just the Chief Strom Sycophant, thomasj13 getting mad and calling people bitches. Yeah, that was surprising. It’s not like anyone said he should be fired. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2021 10:41:05 GMT -6
No, we all aren't. Just the Chief Strom Sycophant, thomasj13 getting mad and calling people bitches. Yeah, that was surprising. It’s not like anyone said he should be fired. I stick up for Altuve and Strom, as I did for Straw. And I would for Brantley, but fortunately no one really has repeatedly put him down. I think to date the Astros have done very well this season. They are not as strong as the 2017 or 2018 team, but they are legit WS contenders. They are doing better than I thought they would be doing. So I am very proud of them. Plus, I did not like Timmy's response - And there is nothing you can do about it. I like him a lot. He always make me laugh. But to act like a little brat kid: it's my forum, I can be bitch if I want to/it's my party, I can cry if I want to. He is better than that, or at least I think of him to be. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 6, 2021 11:21:53 GMT -6
Yeah, that was surprising. It’s not like anyone said he should be fired. I stick up for Altuve and Strom, as I did for Straw. And I would for Brantley, but fortunately no one really has repeatedly put him down. I think to date the Astros have done very well this season. They are not as strong as the 2017 or 2018 team, but they are legit WS contenders. They are doing better than I thought they would be doing. So I am very proud of them. Plus, I did not like Timmy's response - And there is nothing you can do about it. I like him a lot. He always make me laugh. But to act like a little brat kid: it's my forum, I can be bitch if I want to/it's my party, I can cry if I want to. He is better than that, or at least I think of him to be. We had a guy here accusing Brantley of dragging his ass in LA even though he was trying to protect his ankle and stay in the lineup. I have often been overly critical of Altuve while some have been overly protective of him and ignored his problems. It all evens out. We are critical of most of them at times. I was critical of Straw until he started hitting and raising his OBP. The main people I have been critical of and remain critical of until I see a reason not to be are the hitting coaches. If we have such well qualified hitting coaches, why does nearly every guy we trade immediately begin hitting better once we trade them? To cite examples......Teoscar Hernandez traded to Bluejays and make the AL All Star team due to his bat, Colin Moran with Pittsburgh, even Kemp in Oakland. Now, we trade Toro and Straw and both immediately begin producing for their new teams. I understood trading Toro for Graveman and Montero. I'm still not too happy about trading Straw even though Maton could end up a big part of our pen. We basically have no bench until Bregman returns. We need to pick up a player or two off the waiver wires and sign them to minor league deals in hopes one of them could come up and help us off the bench. Anything would be better than Robel Garcia. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 6, 2021 11:36:11 GMT -6
Yeah, that was surprising. It’s not like anyone said he should be fired. I stick up for Altuve and Strom, as I did for Straw. And I would for Brantley, but fortunately no one really has repeatedly put him down. I think to date the Astros have done very well this season. They are not as strong as the 2017 or 2018 team, but they are legit WS contenders. They are doing better than I thought they would be doing. So I am very proud of them. Plus, I did not like Timmy's response - And there is nothing you can do about it. I like him a lot. He always make me laugh. But to act like a little brat kid: it's my forum, I can be bitch if I want to/it's my party, I can cry if I want to. He is better than that, or at least I think of him to be. Don't forget, my response was to YOU calling Sherwin and I "bitch". Sober up and admit you started the shit. And my response about you not being able to do anything about it has nothing to do with who owns the forum. I couldn't give less of a shit about the forum. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2021 11:41:58 GMT -6
I stick up for Altuve and Strom, as I did for Straw. And I would for Brantley, but fortunately no one really has repeatedly put him down. I think to date the Astros have done very well this season. They are not as strong as the 2017 or 2018 team, but they are legit WS contenders. They are doing better than I thought they would be doing. So I am very proud of them. Plus, I did not like Timmy's response - And there is nothing you can do about it. I like him a lot. He always make me laugh. But to act like a little brat kid: it's my forum, I can be bitch if I want to/it's my party, I can cry if I want to. He is better than that, or at least I think of him to be. We had a guy here accusing Brantley of dragging his ass in LA even though he was trying to protect his ankle and stay in the lineup. I have often been overly critical of Altuve while some have been overly protective of him and ignored his problems. It all evens out. We are critical of most of them at times. I was critical of Straw until he started hitting and raising his OBP. The main people I have been critical of and remain critical of until I see a reason not to be are the hitting coaches. If we have such well qualified hitting coaches, why does nearly every guy we trade immediately begin hitting better once we trade them? To cite examples......Teoscar Hernandez traded to Bluejays and make the AL All Star team due to his bat, Colin Moran with Pittsburgh, even Kemp in Oakland. Now, we trade Toro and Straw and both immediately begin producing for their new teams. I understood trading Toro for Graveman and Montero. I'm still not too happy about trading Straw even though Maton could end up a big part of our pen. We basically have no bench until Bregman returns. We need to pick up a player or two off the waiver wires and sign them to minor league deals in hopes one of them could come up and help us off the bench. Anything would be better than Robel Garcia. You two are talking about a specific play to ad nauseam. But if it became almost a weekly thing, that everything Brantley did not do right was broadcasted in a negative light, then that is a different story. Like when people are putting down Altuve and Strom. They both are respectively considered to be elite at what they do. They're not dholes either. Why constantly snide those that are very good at what they do, and do it the right way? We're lucky to have them, finding reasons to put them down, just makes us look like ungrateful/spoiled fans. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 6, 2021 12:24:01 GMT -6
I think all of us agree that none of the players or coaches should be without some criticism. The problem is that we all differ on how much they should receive, and why it isn't consistent/fairly spread.
The bottom line is that Strom is obviously a good pitching coach. But he has certainly not had success with everybody and deserves to receive some criticism for some of the pitching issues, just as the pitchers deserve a lot of criticism.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 6, 2021 14:13:28 GMT -6
We had a guy here accusing Brantley of dragging his ass in LA even though he was trying to protect his ankle and stay in the lineup. I have often been overly critical of Altuve while some have been overly protective of him and ignored his problems. It all evens out. We are critical of most of them at times. I was critical of Straw until he started hitting and raising his OBP. The main people I have been critical of and remain critical of until I see a reason not to be are the hitting coaches. If we have such well qualified hitting coaches, why does nearly every guy we trade immediately begin hitting better once we trade them? To cite examples......Teoscar Hernandez traded to Bluejays and make the AL All Star team due to his bat, Colin Moran with Pittsburgh, even Kemp in Oakland. Now, we trade Toro and Straw and both immediately begin producing for their new teams. I understood trading Toro for Graveman and Montero. I'm still not too happy about trading Straw even though Maton could end up a big part of our pen. We basically have no bench until Bregman returns. We need to pick up a player or two off the waiver wires and sign them to minor league deals in hopes one of them could come up and help us off the bench. Anything would be better than Robel Garcia. You two are talking about a specific play to ad nauseam. But if it became almost a weekly thing, that everything Brantley did not do right was broadcasted in a negative light, then that is a different story. Like when people are putting down Altuve and Strom. They both are respectively considered to be elite at what they do. They're not dholes either. Why constantly snide those that are very good at what they do, and do it the right way? We're lucky to have them, finding reasons to put them down, just makes us look like ungrateful/spoiled fans. We are lucky to have Altuve, Brantley, Strom and most of the rest of the guys connected with the team. We are NOT blessed to have Robel or a moron like Dusty for a manager. The main gripe I have always had with Altuve are his mental mistakes and having no plate discipline. His lack of plate discipline has really stood out the last couple of games. He comes up with clutch hits, including home runs that decide games. But, his batting average keeps dropping and he seldom takes a pitch which leads to too many easy outs. I certainly don't want to get rid of him. I just wish he had more patience. |
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