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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:12:05 GMT -6
1. Hitters higher in the order get more ABs over the course of the season. Do you want a *good* Altuve or Brantley getting an extra AB a game compared to McCormick or Maldonado?
2. If you have the ability to rotate between righties and lefties it can help against pitching changes later in the game for lefty/righty specialists.
3. You want good hitters in RISP situations getting more chances behind hitters that are good at getting on base.
Now does it make that big of a difference between 4 & 5 or 2 & 3, etc? Not really. But there is a pretty big difference between 1-2-3 and 5-6-7 over the course of a season.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:12:22 GMT -6
I guess y'all are also happy to see Marwin coming back to take playing time away from Chas and Meyers and Aledmys.
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:13:43 GMT -6
No it isn’t, if the batting order doesn’t matter. 1. I didn't say the batting order doesn't matter. 2. I was talking about the batting order of players who are expected to hit. 3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year. So you don't think that dropping him down in the order when he's in a huge slump (if that's all it is) wouldn't help take some pressure off of him? He looked down right defeated after that strikeout in his final AB yesterday. It's eating at him. He's having a good overall year, but he was a top-10 player the first half....and downright awful in the 2nd half. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:14:46 GMT -6
I guess y'all are also happy to see Marwin coming back to take playing time away from Chas and Meyers and Aledmys. I'd be surprised if he got much playing time if everybody is healthy. But he could be a nice addition to the clubhouse with morale, especially after they lost Springer. Besides, it didn't cost them anything. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:15:17 GMT -6
1. Hitters higher in the order get more ABs over the course of the season. Do you want a *good* Altuve or Brantley getting an extra AB a game compared to McCormick or Maldonado? 2. If you have the ability to rotate between righties and lefties it can help against pitching changes later in the game for lefty/righty specialists. 3. You want good hitters in RISP situations getting more chances behind hitters that are good at getting on base. Now does it make that big of a difference between 4 & 5 or 2 & 3, etc? Not really. But there is a pretty big difference between 1-2-3 and 5-6-7 over the course of a season. 1. "Over the course of the season" has nothing to do with single games. The batting order isn't being made for results "over the course of the season." 2. Righty/lefty isn't as important as it used to be because of the 3-batter rule for pitchers. 3. Who disputed that? How many times this season has our bottom of the order carried this team while the top 5 sucked ass? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:17:08 GMT -6
1. I didn't say the batting order doesn't matter. 2. I was talking about the batting order of players who are expected to hit. 3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year. So you don't think that dropping him down in the order when he's in a huge slump (if that's all it is) wouldn't help take some pressure off of him? He looked down right defeated after that strikeout in his final AB yesterday. It's eating at him. He's having a good overall year, but he was a top-10 player the first half....and downright awful in the 2nd half. As I said, I think he's hurt. Even when he was doing really well, retards like Corch (and maybe you, I can't remember) were bitching about him hitting leadoff. The same retards were wanting Correa to lead off when he was sucking dick. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:18:41 GMT -6
1. Hitters higher in the order get more ABs over the course of the season. Do you want a *good* Altuve or Brantley getting an extra AB a game compared to McCormick or Maldonado? 2. If you have the ability to rotate between righties and lefties it can help against pitching changes later in the game for lefty/righty specialists. 3. You want good hitters in RISP situations getting more chances behind hitters that are good at getting on base. Now does it make that big of a difference between 4 & 5 or 2 & 3, etc? Not really. But there is a pretty big difference between 1-2-3 and 5-6-7 over the course of a season. 1. "Over the course of the season" has nothing to do with single games. The batting order isn't being made for results "over the course of the season." 2. Righty/lefty isn't as important as it used to be because of the 3-batter rule for pitchers. 3. Who disputed that? How many times this season has our bottom of the order carried this team while the top 5 sucked ass? 1. Every game matters at the end of the year. And the extra offense generated but some extra ABs from your best hitters makes a difference. 2. Sure, but it can still make a diffence. Why not try to get every advantage we can? 3. That just shows how good the bottom of our order has been. It doesn't mean that the premise is wrong. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:19:12 GMT -6
I guess y'all are also happy to see Marwin coming back to take playing time away from Chas and Meyers and Aledmys. I'd be surprised if he got much playing time if everybody is healthy. But he could be a nice addition to the clubhouse with morale, especially after they lost Springer. Besides, it didn't cost them anything. If this team needs Marwin f***ing Gonzalez to help with morale in the clubhouse, they are a team full of losers. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:20:01 GMT -6
1. "Over the course of the season" has nothing to do with single games. The batting order isn't being made for results "over the course of the season." 2. Righty/lefty isn't as important as it used to be because of the 3-batter rule for pitchers. 3. Who disputed that? How many times this season has our bottom of the order carried this team while the top 5 sucked ass? 1. Every game matters at the end of the year. And the extra offense generated but some extra ABs from your best hitters makes a difference. 2. Sure, but it can still make a diffence. Why not try to get every advantage we can? 3. That just shows how good the bottom of our order has been. It doesn't mean that the premise is wrong. That is all semantics |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:20:16 GMT -6
So you don't think that dropping him down in the order when he's in a huge slump (if that's all it is) wouldn't help take some pressure off of him? He looked down right defeated after that strikeout in his final AB yesterday. It's eating at him. He's having a good overall year, but he was a top-10 player the first half....and downright awful in the 2nd half. As I said, I think he's hurt. Even when he was doing really well, retards like Corch (and maybe you, I can't remember) were bitching about him hitting leadoff. The same retards were wanting Correa to lead off when he was sucking dick. I had no concerns about him hitting leadoff. I had concerns about his unsustainable power or nothing approach. When his OBP was hovering around .370+ I had no concerns about him hitting leadoff at all. Now I think he is pressing (if he isn't hurt) and that lowering him down could relieve some of that. It may not...but it can't hurt. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:21:04 GMT -6
1. Every game matters at the end of the year. And the extra offense generated but some extra ABs from your best hitters makes a difference. 2. Sure, but it can still make a diffence. Why not try to get every advantage we can? 3. That just shows how good the bottom of our order has been. It doesn't mean that the premise is wrong. That is all semantics Nonsense. It's all about offensive value. It might be small amount of value on the surface, but a lot of small value creates bigger value. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:21:57 GMT -6
I'd be surprised if he got much playing time if everybody is healthy. But he could be a nice addition to the clubhouse with morale, especially after they lost Springer. Besides, it didn't cost them anything. If this team needs Marwin f***ing Gonzalez to help with morale in the clubhouse, they are a team full of losers. We've got expanded rosters and nobody better that he is impeding. If it boosts morale, what does it hurt? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:22:14 GMT -6
As I said, I think he's hurt. Even when he was doing really well, retards like Corch (and maybe you, I can't remember) were bitching about him hitting leadoff. The same retards were wanting Correa to lead off when he was sucking dick. I had no concerns about him hitting leadoff. I had concerns about his unsustainable power or nothing approach. When his OBP was hovering around .370+ I had no concerns about him hitting leadoff at all. Now I think he is pressing (if he isn't hurt) and that lowering him down could relieve some of that. It may not...but it can't hurt. Everyone knows that Altuve puts pressure on himself while sweeping out the shower in the clubhouse. Hitting 1st surely doesn't faze him any more than hitting 2-9 does |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 4, 2021 20:23:48 GMT -6
No it isn’t, if the batting order doesn’t matter. 1. I didn't say the batting order doesn't matter. 2. I was talking about the batting order of players who are expected to hit. 3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year. Only problem with that thinking is that today’s games are being played now... today... not in the PAST half decade. The Altuve of now...as you would say... “sucks dick!” He is not the Altuve of 2014-2019. Far from it. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:24:15 GMT -6
Bye Yordan  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:25:04 GMT -6
1. I didn't say the batting order doesn't matter. 2. I was talking about the batting order of players who are expected to hit. 3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year. Only problem with that thinking is that today’s games are being played now... today... not in the PAST half decade. The Altuve of now...as you would say... “sucks dick!” He is not the Altuve of 2014-2019. Far from it. Despite his slump, he's still having a highly productive season. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:27:05 GMT -6
My point wasn't even about Altuve or the lead-off spot. Some on here complain if a hitter is moved from 4th to 5th or from 7th to 6th.
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:28:02 GMT -6
I had no concerns about him hitting leadoff. I had concerns about his unsustainable power or nothing approach. When his OBP was hovering around .370+ I had no concerns about him hitting leadoff at all. Now I think he is pressing (if he isn't hurt) and that lowering him down could relieve some of that. It may not...but it can't hurt. Everyone knows that Altuve puts pressure on himself while sweeping out the shower in the clubhouse. Hitting 1st surely doesn't faze him any more than hitting 2-9 does Who sweeps showers? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:28:05 GMT -6
1. I didn't say the batting order doesn't matter. 2. I was talking about the batting order of players who are expected to hit. 3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year. Only problem with that thinking is that today’s games are being played now... today... not in the PAST half decade. The Altuve of now...as you would say... “sucks dick!” He is not the Altuve of 2014-2019. Far from it. Speaking of sucking dick...that is all Marwin brings to the team. Probably why Correa wanted him here so badly.  |
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Post by Saint on Sept 4, 2021 20:28:32 GMT -6
My point wasn't even about Altuve or the lead-off spot. Some on here complain if a hitter is moved from 4th to 5th or from 7th to 6th. Well yea, that mostly doesn't matter. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 4, 2021 20:29:18 GMT -6
Only problem with that thinking is that today’s games are being played now... today... not in the PAST half decade. The Altuve of now...as you would say... “sucks dick!” He is not the Altuve of 2014-2019. Far from it. Despite his slump, he's still having a highly productive season. He had a highly productive first half of this season. Second half? Not so much. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:30:03 GMT -6
They need to get Valdez out of the game before he kills someone.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:30:29 GMT -6
Despite his slump, he's still having a highly productive season. He had a highly productive first half of this season. Second half? Not so much. Ergo, "despite his slump" |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 4, 2021 20:31:26 GMT -6
Bye Yordan Where is Yordan going? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:31:59 GMT -6
Bye Yordan Where is Yordan going? Out of the game. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2021 20:35:04 GMT -6
So you don't think that dropping him down in the order when he's in a huge slump (if that's all it is) wouldn't help take some pressure off of him? He looked down right defeated after that strikeout in his final AB yesterday. It's eating at him. He's having a good overall year, but he was a top-10 player the first half....and downright awful in the 2nd half. As I said, I think he's hurt. Even when he was doing really well, retards like Corch (and maybe you, I can't remember) were bitching about him hitting leadoff. The same retards were wanting Correa to lead off when he was sucking dick. After making this comment, you should refrain from EVER referring to me or anyone else as a retard or mongoloid. LMAO. "3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year." This statement needs to be bronzed and kept where everyone can see it. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 4, 2021 20:35:45 GMT -6
Just tuned in. Been working like a slave on the yard today. I need to find a mexican. Oh wait........ |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 4, 2021 20:37:01 GMT -6
When faced with two options, we can depend on Dusty to make take the wrong one. Meyer should have taken that AB from Yordan and stayed in the game.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 4, 2021 20:38:30 GMT -6
As I said, I think he's hurt. Even when he was doing really well, retards like Corch (and maybe you, I can't remember) were bitching about him hitting leadoff. The same retards were wanting Correa to lead off when he was sucking dick. After making this comment, you should refrain from EVER referring to me or anyone else as a retard or mongoloid. LMAO. "3. I would rather have Altuve have more ABs than nearly anyone in baseball...when he isn't hurt or got a sty on his eye. He's been one of the best hitters in baseball for half a decade or more, and only Astros fans are shitty enough to give up on him during a down year." This statement needs to be bronzed and kept where everyone can see it. I don't give a shit what you think, mongoloid. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 4, 2021 20:39:49 GMT -6
I can plainly see there will be no group hug on the board tonight.  |
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