Crane

[Saint]

This is why I think we're still in a good place:

“People always refer to the window, (say) the window may be closing,” he said. “Listen, when I’m here, the window’s always going to be open.” - Jim Crane

This ain't Drayton.

[koolade2]

When Crane became owner many on here were upfront and said Crane was bad. Maybe most of those are gone now. All had to do with something with a business outside of Baseball. I think he was right in how he handled that business and it is none of my business as I don't work for him and never did. They said he would never spend the Money and as far as I can see Crane is interested in winning and not just being an owner like I think some of the owners approach the game. Win just enough games to keep the fans around.
I think he had done a good job with Luhnow and now Click as GM and is willing to do what is necessary that makes sense to put a Top Tier Team on the Field.

[unionstation82]

Nov 3, 2021 12:42:24 GMT -6 Saint said:

This is why I think we're still in a good place:

“People always refer to the window, (say) the window may be closing,” he said. “Listen, when I’m here, the window’s always going to be open.” - Jim Crane

This ain't Drayton.

You trust the same people who dubbed Straw as the heir apparent to Springer?

[Saint]

Nov 3, 2021 14:29:37 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 3, 2021 12:42:24 GMT -6 Saint said:

This is why I think we're still in a good place:

“People always refer to the window, (say) the window may be closing,” he said. “Listen, when I’m here, the window’s always going to be open.” - Jim Crane

This ain't Drayton.

You trust the same people who dubbed Straw as the heir apparent to Springer?

Things change, son. They felt they had better and got Magic Maton instead. Straw is a GG finalist, we're not any worse at CF and have maybe a good reliever for cheap, and Springer...got money.

I call it a win for everybody.

[Ashitaka]

2018 "Oh no, Keuchel and Morton both left. The window is closing!
2019 "Oh no, Cole is gone...and to the YANKEES! The window is closing!!"
2020 "Oh no, Springer is headed to Toronto, the window is closing!!!"
2021 "CORREA IS THE CAPTAIN YOU CAN'T LET HIM GO OR THE WINDOW WILL CLOSE!!!!!!!"

No, the window isn't closing. This entire organization was constructed with the purpose of making sure the window never really closes. We just got to within 2 wins of a trophy despite losing Cole, Verlander, Springer, and McCullers for various reasons. The pitching staff that dominated was missing all that, and was led by Garica, Framber and Urquidy, who came out of nowhere and were signed for pennies, and the bullpen was thrown together at the deadline by dealing spare parts.

This is still "Tampa Bay but with money." This team is going to be just fine.

[Ashitaka]

Nov 3, 2021 14:29:37 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 3, 2021 12:42:24 GMT -6 Saint said:

This is why I think we're still in a good place:

“People always refer to the window, (say) the window may be closing,” he said. “Listen, when I’m here, the window’s always going to be open.” - Jim Crane

This ain't Drayton.

You trust the same people who dubbed Straw as the heir apparent to Springer?

Case in point: All-Star Springer goes to Toronto. Oh no, what shall we do!?

The Astros got a 3.7 WAR performance from a 12th round pick in Myles Straw, sold him at his peak value for a key bullpen upgrade that we have for two more years (and a good catching prospect), and didn't miss a beat because Jake Meyers, a 13th round pick, is an even better prospect. And Chas McCormick was a 21st round pick.

This organization's ability to find talent where other people don't is borderline magic. That's why people don't need to fear the window closing.

[unionstation82]

Nov 3, 2021 21:10:39 GMT -6 Ashitaka said:

Nov 3, 2021 14:29:37 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

You trust the same people who dubbed Straw as the heir apparent to Springer?

Case in point: All-Star Springer goes to Toronto. Oh no, what shall we do!?

The Astros got a 3.7 WAR performance from a 12th round pick in Myles Straw, sold him at his peak value for a key bullpen upgrade that we have for two more years (and a good catching prospect), and didn't miss a beat because Jake Meyers, a 13th round pick, is an even better prospect. And Chas McCormick was a 21st round pick.

This organization's ability to find talent where other people don't is borderline magic. That's why people don't need to fear the window closing.

I liked Straw and appreciated the return for him, but it was kind of a used car salesman approach to market Myles as the budding star for years to come.

[Ashitaka]

Nov 3, 2021 22:00:31 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 3, 2021 21:10:39 GMT -6 Ashitaka said:

Case in point: All-Star Springer goes to Toronto. Oh no, what shall we do!?

The Astros got a 3.7 WAR performance from a 12th round pick in Myles Straw, sold him at his peak value for a key bullpen upgrade that we have for two more years (and a good catching prospect), and didn't miss a beat because Jake Meyers, a 13th round pick, is an even better prospect. And Chas McCormick was a 21st round pick.

This organization's ability to find talent where other people don't is borderline magic. That's why people don't need to fear the window closing.

I liked Straw and appreciated the return for him, but it was kind of a used car salesman approach to market Myles as the budding star for years to come.

TBH he played up to it. 3.7 WAR is borderline All-Star level. That's very near what Michael Bourne did for us for several years.

[unionstation82]

Nov 3, 2021 22:18:44 GMT -6 Ashitaka said:

Nov 3, 2021 22:00:31 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

I liked Straw and appreciated the return for him, but it was kind of a used car salesman approach to market Myles as the budding star for years to come.

TBH he played up to it. 3.7 WAR is borderline All-Star level. That's very near what Michael Bourne did for us for several years.

Imagine if he could bunt, get on base more, or steal more. The defensive instincts were there but for baserunning it wasn’t.

[thomasj13]

Nov 4, 2021 7:01:00 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 3, 2021 22:18:44 GMT -6 Ashitaka said:

TBH he played up to it. 3.7 WAR is borderline All-Star level. That's very near what Michael Bourne did for us for several years.

Imagine if he could bunt, get on base more, or steal more. The defensive instincts were there but for baserunning it wasn’t.

He got better as the season progressed

[thomasj13]

Straw the first half of the season, his SB to CS ratio was 13/5.

Second half he was 17/1.

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 7:14:41 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Straw the first half of the season, his SB to CS ratio was 13/5.

Second half he was 17/1.

Frustrating player. Should’ve done that here.

[thomasj13]

Straw 2nd half was .276/.350/.346. He's doesn't have power; whereas, Meyers and Chas do have some. Therefore, Click traded him for something he values, a reliever with high spin rate.
I didn't like the trade initially, because I like Straw a lot, but now I understand it.

[thomasj13]

Nov 4, 2021 7:17:55 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:14:41 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Straw the first half of the season, his SB to CS ratio was 13/5.

Second half he was 17/1.

Frustrating player. Should’ve done that here.

He was just getting his feet wet; taking over in CF, for the departed Springer. Initially he was doing horrible, but we all witnessed his progression/huge improvement.. Give a little slack, Corch Jr.

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 7:25:30 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:17:55 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Frustrating player. Should’ve done that here.

He was just getting his feet wet; taking over in CF, for the departed Springer. Initially he was doing horrible, but we all witnessed his progression/huge improvement.. Give a little slack, Corch Jr.

Nah, you’ve complained about his tendency to stick around first base too often as well. I already admitted his defense got really good. All in all, it worked out because Maton became the fireman reliever of the team. I hope they keep Graveman.

[thomasj13]

Nov 4, 2021 7:29:02 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:25:30 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

He was just getting his feet wet; taking over in CF, for the departed Springer. Initially he was doing horrible, but we all witnessed his progression/huge improvement.. Give a little slack, Corch Jr.

Nah, you’ve complained about his tendency to stick around first base too often as well. I already admitted his defense got really good. All in all, it worked out because Maton became the fireman reliever of the team. I hope they keep Graveman.

To some degree, I was hoping more he was given the green light. But I was not faulting Straw.

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 7:51:13 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:29:02 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nah, you’ve complained about his tendency to stick around first base too often as well. I already admitted his defense got really good. All in all, it worked out because Maton became the fireman reliever of the team. I hope they keep Graveman.

To some degree, I was hoping more he was given the green light. But I was not faulting Straw.

I wasn’t faulting the steals as much as the on-base ability. This seems to be more of a hit and run team, even when Maldonado bats.

[thomasj13]

Talk about dodging a bullet

Jackie Bradley Jr. hit .163/.236/.261 this past season. It's a shocker, but he exercised his $9 million player option for the 2022 season.

[thomasj13]

Nov 4, 2021 7:59:27 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:51:13 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

To some degree, I was hoping more he was given the green light. But I was not faulting Straw.

I wasn’t faulting the steals as much as the on-base ability. This seems to be more of a hit and run team, even when Maldonado bats.

The first half of the season Straw finished with a .346 OBA. I think you're remembering his first month-and-a-half to 2 months too much. He definitely progressed, even during his time with us

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 8:00:46 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:59:27 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

I wasn’t faulting the steals as much as the on-base ability. This seems to be more of a hit and run team, even when Maldonado bats.

The first half of the season Straw finished with a .346 OBA. I think you're remembering his first month-and-a-half to 2 months too much. He definitely progressed, even during his time with us

What I don’t get is if they knew he wasn’t the hitter they wanted out there, why did they talk him up so much? Was it deception in order to build up his value? Either way, like I said, I would’ve liked him to have gotten on base a little more and steal more. I would’ve also liked him to bat 9th or even 1st more often. The return for him is why I like Click.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Nov 4, 2021 7:01:00 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 3, 2021 22:18:44 GMT -6 Ashitaka said:

TBH he played up to it. 3.7 WAR is borderline All-Star level. That's very near what Michael Bourne did for us for several years.

Imagine if he could bunt, get on base more, or steal more. The defensive instincts were there but for baserunning it wasn’t.

Darn him for not being Mike Trout.

[abregmanfan]

Nov 4, 2021 9:09:43 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:01:00 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Imagine if he could bunt, get on base more, or steal more. The defensive instincts were there but for baserunning it wasn’t.

Darn him for not being Mike Trout.

But Trout is always hurt. Come on Kermit, get your shit together.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Nov 4, 2021 9:12:04 GMT -6 abregmanfan said:

Nov 4, 2021 9:09:43 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Darn him for not being Mike Trout.

But Trout is always hurt. Come on Kermit, get your shit together.

It's just Sherwin fulfilling his Corch,Jr role.

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 9:12:04 GMT -6 abregmanfan said:

Nov 4, 2021 9:09:43 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Darn him for not being Mike Trout.

But Trout is always hurt. Come on Kermit, get your shit together.

Thanks for backing me up, my *****. Everyone here acting like they didn’t criticize Straw.

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 9:09:43 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Nov 4, 2021 7:01:00 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Imagine if he could bunt, get on base more, or steal more. The defensive instincts were there but for baserunning it wasn’t.

Darn him for not being Mike Trout.

Darn Mike Trout for not being Mike Trout.

[thomasj13]

Nov 4, 2021 9:26:48 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 4, 2021 9:12:04 GMT -6 abregmanfan said:

But Trout is always hurt. Come on Kermit, get your shit together.

Thanks for backing me up, my *****. Everyone here acting like they didn’t criticize Straw.

I was a big Straw guy, so you must have me confused....  I was openly supportive/fan of both Altuve and Strom...

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 10:48:01 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Nov 4, 2021 9:26:48 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Thanks for backing me up, my *****. Everyone here acting like they didn’t criticize Straw.

I was a big Straw guy, so you must have me confused....  I was openly supportive/fan of both Altuve and Strom...

Not you.

[thomasj13]

Nov 4, 2021 10:48:33 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Nov 4, 2021 10:48:01 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

I was a big Straw guy, so you must have me confused....  I was openly supportive/fan of both Altuve and Strom...

Not you.

It's like you don't know me anymore, or pay attention to me.  Ever since you started fathering the kids that Saint raises, it's like you are not even there....

[unionstation82]

Nov 4, 2021 10:53:57 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Nov 4, 2021 10:48:33 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Not you.

It's like you don't know me anymore, or pay attention to me.  Ever since you started fathering the kids that Saint raises, it's like you are not even there....

It’s hard learning how to speak messican. They don’t trust me yet. It’s a process.

[Hunter McCormick]

Nov 4, 2021 7:59:33 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Talk about dodging a bullet

Jackie Bradley Jr. hit .163/.236/.261 this past season. It's a shocker, but he exercised his $9 million player option for the 2022 season.

Indeed. Bullet dodged.