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Post by Saint on May 20, 2018 21:34:07 GMT -6
Most encouraging: Altuve hitting at home. Giles looking good. Kemp immediately contributing. YOU DOUBTED KEMP, SUCKA. But seriously, Jake who? And I still do long term. Especially as a starter. I hope to be wrong. Certainly better than what Jake was giving us this year. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 20, 2018 22:13:59 GMT -6
Dominating game by Lance......best start I've ever seen from him. Harris scares me,but, Hinch sent him in to get the bottom of the order out and he did. Correa looked asleep at the plate all night. Still not cashing in on scoring opportunities but pitching and McCann's home run was enough. Now, we have Cole and Verlander ready for SF.
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Dominating game by Lance......best start I've ever seen from him. Harris scares me,but, Hinch sent him in to get the bottom of the order out and he did. Correa looked asleep at the plate all night. Still not cashing in on scoring opportunities but pitching and McCann's home run was enough. Now, we have Cole and Verlander ready for SF. It's funny because Harris scares me as well. Which sometimes I wonder why because since he has been an Astro he has been a solid, reliable reliever. Here is his ERA since becoming an Astro: 2015 - 1.90 2016 - 2.25 2017 - 2.98 2018 - 3.45 It's gone up over the years, but they are all solid numbers. |
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Post by Saint on May 21, 2018 9:44:19 GMT -6
Dominating game by Lance......best start I've ever seen from him. Harris scares me,but, Hinch sent him in to get the bottom of the order out and he did. Correa looked asleep at the plate all night. Still not cashing in on scoring opportunities but pitching and McCann's home run was enough. Now, we have Cole and Verlander ready for SF. It's funny because Harris scares me as well. Which sometimes I wonder why because since he has been an Astro he has been a solid, reliable reliever. Here is his ERA since becoming an Astro: 2015 - 1.90 2016 - 2.25 2017 - 2.98 2018 - 3.45 It's gone up over the years, but they are all solid numbers. "Which sometimes I wonder why" I wonder why a lot of y'all get scared with Harris. He's been dominant for us an Astro. 2.39 career ERA and a WHIP under 1.00 with us. He only gave up 1 run in the postseason last year and was perfect in 3 IP in the World Series. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 21, 2018 10:04:10 GMT -6
Sherwin doesn't like him because he looks like George W. Bush.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 10:11:25 GMT -6
Does that correlate to a new pitching strategery ?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 10:21:14 GMT -6
Sherwin doesn't like him because he looks like George W. Bush. I am convinced Stassi and Will Harris is the same person. The similarities are uncanny.   |
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Post by Saint on May 21, 2018 10:23:48 GMT -6
I feel like we're cloning stocky white guys with ginger beards.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 10:41:01 GMT -6
I feel like we're cloning stocky white guys with ginger beards. Stassi, Gattis, McCann, Devenski, the list goes on and on and on... |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2018 11:18:54 GMT -6
It's funny because Harris scares me as well. Which sometimes I wonder why because since he has been an Astro he has been a solid, reliable reliever. Here is his ERA since becoming an Astro: 2015 - 1.90 2016 - 2.25 2017 - 2.98 2018 - 3.45 It's gone up over the years, but they are all solid numbers. "Which sometimes I wonder why" I wonder why a lot of y'all get scared with Harris. He's been dominant for us an Astro. 2.39 career ERA and a WHIP under 1.00 with us. He only gave up 1 run in the postseason last year and was perfect in 3 IP in the World Series. i always remember what he does in the playoffs.........caves in and blows the game. I am always nervous when he comes in unless we are 4-5 runs ahead |
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Post by Saint on May 21, 2018 11:42:21 GMT -6
"Which sometimes I wonder why" I wonder why a lot of y'all get scared with Harris. He's been dominant for us an Astro. 2.39 career ERA and a WHIP under 1.00 with us. He only gave up 1 run in the postseason last year and was perfect in 3 IP in the World Series. i always remember what he does in the playoffs.........caves in and blows the game. I am always nervous when he comes in unless we are 4-5 runs ahead He only gave up one run in the postseason last year... |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2018 13:31:13 GMT -6
i always remember what he does in the playoffs.........caves in and blows the game. I am always nervous when he comes in unless we are 4-5 runs ahead He only gave up one run in the postseason last year... Mostly because Hinch kept him out of crucial situations |
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Post by bearbryant on May 21, 2018 14:04:21 GMT -6
He only gave up one run in the postseason last year... Mostly because Hinch kept him out of crucial situations
So yeah, the situations he called on Harris for last October were pretty crucial |
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Post by paastrosfan on May 21, 2018 14:25:07 GMT -6
Mostly because Hinch kept him out of crucial situations
So yeah, the situations he called on Harris for last October were pretty crucialHarris came up big in game two and five of the WS. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 21, 2018 14:39:04 GMT -6
Harris did a good job redeeming himself after 2015. Reminded me of Frank LaCorte's October in 1981 after he was the goat in 1980
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Post by paastrosfan on May 21, 2018 14:43:49 GMT -6
Harris did a good job redeeming himself after 2015. Reminded me of Frank LaCorte's October in 1981 after he was the goat in 1980 Another one of my favorites during that time was Joe Sambito. |
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Post by marshall on May 21, 2018 14:49:33 GMT -6
Harris did a good job redeeming himself after 2015. Reminded me of Frank LaCorte's October in 1981 after he was the goat in 1980 Another one of my favorites during that time was Joe Sambito. I liked him too.
But the trio of Lidge, Dotel and Wagner always top my list of favorite relievers.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 21, 2018 14:51:23 GMT -6
Another one of my favorites during that time was Joe Sambito. I liked him too.
But the trio of Lidge, Dotel and Wagner always top my list of favorite relievers.
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Post by marshall on May 21, 2018 14:53:31 GMT -6
There really needs to be a different stat than ERA with relievers which would incorporate inherited runners scoring. You want your reliever to shut down the opposition and keep the inherited runners from scoring. ERA doesn't count them against the reliever.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2018 14:55:51 GMT -6
Mostly because Hinch kept him out of crucial situations
So yeah, the situations he called on Harris for last October were pretty crucialKey words are "unclean inning". When there was little room for error, Hinch didn't use Harris, Gregerson, and he got to the point he didn't want to go to Devenski. I think Devenski was tired from all the innings in the regular season as the velocity on his fastball dropped. Giles got to be so bad that Hinch never considered using him unless he had no other options. If Hinch didn't have Morton, Peacock, and in some cases, McCullers, we probably would not have won the World Series. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 21, 2018 14:56:11 GMT -6
There really needs to be a different stat than ERA with relievers which would incorporate inherited runners scoring. You want your reliever to shut down the opposition and keep the inherited runners from scoring. ERA doesn't count them against the reliever.
That's why WHIP (baserunners per inning) is a better evaluator for a reliever than ERA is |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2018 14:57:09 GMT -6
Harris did a good job redeeming himself after 2015. Reminded me of Frank LaCorte's October in 1981 after he was the goat in 1980 Another one of my favorites during that time was Joe Sambito. I always liked Sambito. He and Dave Smith were two relievers I liked. We also got some good work from Charlie Kerfeld and Aurelio Lopez at times |
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Post by paastrosfan on May 21, 2018 15:01:28 GMT -6
There really needs to be a different stat than ERA with relievers which would incorporate inherited runners scoring. You want your reliever to shut down the opposition and keep the inherited runners from scoring. ERA doesn't count them against the reliever. ERA, just like games won are deceiving. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2018 15:03:54 GMT -6
There really needs to be a different stat than ERA with relievers which would incorporate inherited runners scoring. You want your reliever to shut down the opposition and keep the inherited runners from scoring. ERA doesn't count them against the reliever. ERA, just like games won are deceiving. Yes, if you win 15 games and your ERA was around 4.50, you were not good and your offense got you off the hook and won the games. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 21, 2018 15:04:34 GMT -6
Harris was Hinch's go-to guy last postseason when he needed an unclean inning to finish. Meaning the starter had to exit mid-inning with men on base
So yeah, the situations he called on Harris for last October were pretty crucial When there was little room for error, Hinch didn't use Harris |
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Post by marshall on May 21, 2018 15:08:18 GMT -6
Perhaps the new designation should be Inherited runner specialist as opposed to closer. They like to give both closers and setup pitchers a clean start.
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Post by bearbryant on May 21, 2018 15:09:28 GMT -6
Sambito was good, but he imploded in the '81 postseason. His meltdown that year was like the one Giles had last October
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Post by astrosdoug on May 21, 2018 15:10:03 GMT -6
There really needs to be a different stat than ERA with relievers which would incorporate inherited runners scoring. You want your reliever to shut down the opposition and keep the inherited runners from scoring. ERA doesn't count them against the reliever. This year, the Astros relievers have allowed the following number & percentage of inherited runners to score: Devenski 2 15.00% (meaning, Devo has allowed 2 inherited runners to score, representing 15% of the total number of runners he inherited) Ken Giles 1 50.00% Will Harris 2 67.00% Collin McHugh 0 0.00% Brad Peacock 4 44.00% Hector Rondon 1 100.00% Tony Sipp* 0 0.00% Joe Smith 1 20.00% Those numbers don't mean a whole lot since the sample sizes are so small. For last season, the numbers looked like this: Tyler Clippard 3 50.00% J.D. Davis 2 67.00% Chris Devenski 9 22.00% Dayan Diaz 2 40.00% Michael Feliz 14 52.00% Ken Giles 7 39.00% Luke Gregerson 5 50.00% Reymin Guduan 2 15.00% Jandel Gustave 0 0.00% Will Harris 10 43.00% James Hoyt 14 48.00% Jordan Jankowski 1 100.00% Francisco Liriano 5 38.00% Francis Martes 3 20.00% Joe Musgrove 3 27.00% Brad Peacock 1 33.00% Tony Sipp 7 47.00% Ashur Tolliver 2 50.00% |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 21, 2018 15:13:42 GMT -6
Overall, the 2017 bullpen allowed 38% of inherited runners to score, while the 2018 bullpen has so far allowed only 26% to score.
Last year's AL league average in this category was 30% and this year it is 35%. So, whereas the 2017 bullpen underperformed the league in terms of inherited runners, this year's bullpen is outperforming the league.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 21, 2018 15:13:58 GMT -6
Sambito was good, but he imploded in the '81 postseason. His meltdown that year was like the one Giles had last October When you think of all the implosions of the Stros in playoff history, even Wagner had his moments. |
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