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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 26, 2022 16:13:03 GMT -6
What a flop Baez was. A $14.5 million dollar bust. I'm trying to think of the last costly free agent flop we had. Probably the last time Timmy had one. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 26, 2022 16:37:52 GMT -6
What a flop Baez was. A $14.5 million dollar bust. I'm trying to think of the last costly free agent flop we had. $6 mil back then for one year of Woody Williams was a bad one too. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 16:42:43 GMT -6
What a flop Baez was. A $14.5 million dollar bust. I'm trying to think of the last costly free agent flop we had. Lance McCullers |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 26, 2022 16:46:49 GMT -6
I like Chas, and I know they think they see something in Meyers....but I can't help but feel like we could really use Straw. Since leaving us: .287 AVG .369 OBP (109 OPS+) 17/18 SB and great defense. Oh, and he told Yankee fans to basically s*ck his d*ck. I like Maton, but I didn't like that trade at the time and still don't now. An everyday 3 win CF is a lot more valuable than a 7th inning reliever. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 26, 2022 16:54:59 GMT -6
What a flop Baez was. A $14.5 million dollar bust. I'm trying to think of the last costly free agent flop we had. Lance McCullers A. He was an extension. B. He was great last year. I'll take 7th in CY voting every year. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 26, 2022 16:56:09 GMT -6
I like Maton, but I didn't like that trade at the time and still don't now. An everyday 3 win CF is a lot more valuable than a 7th inning reliever. Looking back on the players we gave up on or traded for October specific needs the last few years gives me a headache. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 16:57:47 GMT -6
I like Maton, but I didn't like that trade at the time and still don't now. An everyday 3 win CF is a lot more valuable than a 7th inning reliever. I like Maton enough, but Straw got shit on way too much by the fans. All the allowances for Maldonado’s overrated ass on offense should’ve been afforded to Straw. He provided great defense (crappy at first), baserunning speed, and bunting. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 16:58:18 GMT -6
A. He was an extension. B. He was great last year. I'll take 7th in CY voting every year. Yeah, he’s great when he’s not on the IL a couple times a year. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 17:05:29 GMT -6
#neverforget
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 26, 2022 17:07:16 GMT -6
Wait, Harris and Osuna were both good, and Raley as well aside from some bad luck stretches. But that aside I don't think anyone is saying Strom is perfect or that no one ever failed. He's clearly excellent at what he does though, so all the snark he seems to get around here is puzzling. You don’t get that Strom receives all the praise in the world for good pitching and is casted no aspersions for bad pitching? The man is treated like a god. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 26, 2022 17:07:54 GMT -6
A. He was an extension. B. He was great last year. I'll take 7th in CY voting every year. Yeah, he’s great when he’s not on the IL a couple times a year. That's why he is getting $17 mil a year instead of $25+ though. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 26, 2022 17:15:52 GMT -6
What a flop Baez was. A $14.5 million dollar bust. I'm trying to think of the last costly free agent flop we had. Lance McCullers Too soon |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 17:26:19 GMT -6
I know. It was half in jest. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 26, 2022 18:05:49 GMT -6
I know. It was half in jest. Half in truth |
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Post by Ashitaka on Apr 26, 2022 18:10:41 GMT -6
Remember Tony Sipp? Three years, $18 million. He at least had one of those years be pretty good, so maybe not as complete of a bust as Baez.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 18:24:46 GMT -6
Remember Tony Sipp? Three years, $18 million. He at least had one of those years be pretty good, so maybe not as complete of a bust as Baez. Towards the end of ‘15, he was our most effective reliever. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 26, 2022 19:04:09 GMT -6
Remember Tony Sipp? Three years, $18 million. He at least had one of those years be pretty good, so maybe not as complete of a bust as Baez. Towards the end of ‘15, he was our most effective reliever. I never liked him or Harris..... But I liked Devenski, so what do I know? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 26, 2022 19:05:14 GMT -6
Ranking of Astros best relievers of all-time?
1. Wagner
2. ?
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 19:11:22 GMT -6
Ranking of Astros best relievers of all-time? 1. Wagner 2. ? Let’s end the list there. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 19:12:35 GMT -6
Towards the end of ‘15, he was our most effective reliever. I never liked him or Harris..... But I liked Devenski, so what do I know? Harris for me will never be hated like Giles, but he cost us more important games. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 19:13:51 GMT -6
MOTHER TUCKER
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Post by Saint on Apr 26, 2022 20:53:54 GMT -6
Ranking of Astros best relievers of all-time? 1. Wagner 2. ? Let’s end the list there. Smith Sambito Pressly Pre-Pujols HR Lidge Valverde |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 26, 2022 21:28:11 GMT -6
Let’s end the list there. Smith Sambito Pressly Pre-Pujols HR Lidge Valverde Honestly, ‘04 Lidge was the filthiest reliever the Astros ever had. The man was orbiting sliders around the zone and getting whiffs. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 27, 2022 6:34:10 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2022 7:15:21 GMT -6
Ouch, now’s not a good time to talk money, man. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 27, 2022 9:32:00 GMT -6
Ouch, now’s not a good time to talk money, man. Sine the playoffs last year, Carlos' timing has been off..... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 27, 2022 10:08:01 GMT -6
Ouch, now’s not a good time to talk money, man. Sine the playoffs last year, Carlos' timing has been off..... Honestly, he hadn’t done crap since that pop up homer against Boston in Game 1. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 27, 2022 10:18:44 GMT -6
Sine the playoffs last year, Carlos' timing has been off..... Honestly, he hadn’t done crap since that pop up homer against Boston in Game 1. I am so glad the Astros didn't up the offer to within range of Carlos' demands. Carlos might regret not taking the Tigers' offer |
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Post by Saint on Apr 27, 2022 10:34:20 GMT -6
Remember Tony Sipp? Three years, $18 million. He at least had one of those years be pretty good, so maybe not as complete of a bust as Baez. Overall though, he was a solid reliever over his body of work with us. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Apr 27, 2022 17:32:57 GMT -6
Ranking of Astros best relievers of all-time? 1. Wagner 2. ? Top 10 in WAR all time: Billy Wagner Dave Smith Brad Lidge Octavio Dotel Larry Anderson Joe Sambito Ryan Pressly Will Harris Ken Giles Dan Wheeler Chris Devenski is 11th, believe it or not. |
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