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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 8, 2024 20:36:23 GMT -6
I have no idea why fans are so opposed to signing Bauer. Here, we have a potential co-ace willing to sign for peanuts and they’re mad because his poop smells. Makes no sense.
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Jun 8, 2024 21:06:16 GMT -6
I have no idea why fans are so opposed to signing Bauer. Here, we have a potential co-ace willing to sign for peanuts and they’re mad because his poop smells. Makes no sense. For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 8, 2024 21:08:51 GMT -6
I have no idea why fans are so opposed to signing Bauer. Here, we have a potential co-ace willing to sign for peanuts and they’re mad because his poop smells. Makes no sense. For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse. The players can suck it up. Their constant failures lead to these types of desperation moves.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 9, 2024 3:06:30 GMT -6
I have no idea why fans are so opposed to signing Bauer. Here, we have a potential co-ace willing to sign for peanuts and they’re mad because his poop smells. Makes no sense. For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse. Maybe they shouldn’t have cheated.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 9, 2024 3:50:00 GMT -6
For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse. Maybe they shouldn’t have cheated. Yes, the team model of ethics doesn’t want to “spoil the clubhouse”.
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Jun 9, 2024 7:59:42 GMT -6
For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse. Maybe they shouldn’t have cheated. Well that’s obvious. Congrats on the most obvious post of the year sir.
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Jun 9, 2024 8:00:35 GMT -6
Maybe they shouldn’t have cheated. Yes, the team model of ethics doesn’t want to “spoil the clubhouse”. This team really doesn’t need more bad publicity. Or just lean in and play the villain.
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Post by Saint on Jun 10, 2024 13:48:28 GMT -6
The Astros will be villains until Altuve retires and maybe even still after that if they continue to succeed. The big market fans don't want to see Houston continue to beat them, especially after 2017. Might as well embrace it and do what it takes to keep adding to this era/dynasty.
My only issue with Bauer is how he could affect the clubhouse. Obviously we could use the help and the team is struggling, but just because it has been a slow couple months doesn't mean we need to ruin what has been a very good thing for many years now. I don't want to hear "it's already ruined they look terrible" over a sample size of two months. The Bauer option should definitely be explored (if he hasn't been already), but they need to do their due diligence with the veterans on this team and make sure they're on board with him joining.
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Jun 10, 2024 14:17:15 GMT -6
You can believe this or not. I did read today from a source that while the Astros did watch Bauer throw, they do not intend on bringing him in.
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Post by mihdennabios on Jun 10, 2024 14:36:50 GMT -6
I have no idea why fans are so opposed to signing Bauer. Here, we have a potential co-ace willing to sign for peanuts and they’re mad because his poop smells. Makes no sense. Ya I'm on the pro Bauer train. I don't get anyone who's not. It's time for everyone to face the facts, the DV policy the league put out was to punish Players that abuse their wives/gfs. It was not put out to punish players for getting involved with a lying honeypot grifters (Lindsay) nor to punish players who piss off their FWB by not giving them commitment (the Ohio girls).
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 10, 2024 19:29:22 GMT -6
I have no idea why fans are so opposed to signing Bauer. Here, we have a potential co-ace willing to sign for peanuts and they’re mad because his poop smells. Makes no sense. For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse. I mean do we think the clubhouse is really working as it is now?
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Post by m240 on Jun 10, 2024 20:31:00 GMT -6
For me, it’s the major trash talking he did about 2017. I just worry some of our players hate him and it won’t work in the clubhouse. I mean do we think the clubhouse is really working as it is now? It would not bother me to sign him bring him in and throw a couple games and then if he shows his backside trade him for a little something at the deadline. If he flames out or stuff gets weird then peanuts don't cost much.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 10, 2024 22:48:50 GMT -6
Anyone still care about how a move might affect the guys in the clubhouse...? Well, this is me now. I have no faith in anyone in this organization right now. I don't know when the next game I watch will be. There are too many good ways to end my day to continue to inflict this team on myself for 2.5-3.5 hours every day.
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Post by Saint on Jun 11, 2024 8:20:28 GMT -6
On the plus side, it's sure nice that we've been spoiled enough as a fanbase to be so frustrated after a poor two months despite several years of amazing success.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2024 8:26:19 GMT -6
On the plus side, it's sure nice that we've been spoiled enough as a fanbase to be so frustrated after a poor two months despite several years of amazing success. It’s expectations. At least during 2012-14, it was less stressful. Give me a bad team that occasionally wins and inspires hope over a completely loaded team going through the motions and finding ways to lose left and right.
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Post by Saint on Jun 11, 2024 9:57:30 GMT -6
On the plus side, it's sure nice that we've been spoiled enough as a fanbase to be so frustrated after a poor two months despite several years of amazing success. It’s expectations. At least during 2012-14, it was less stressful. Give me a bad team that occasionally wins and inspires hope over a completely loaded team going through the motions and finding ways to lose left and right. There's no hope in a bad team... There is hope in a mediocre team filled with good players.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 11, 2024 13:22:23 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 11, 2024 20:33:33 GMT -6
It’s expectations. At least during 2012-14, it was less stressful. Give me a bad team that occasionally wins and inspires hope over a completely loaded team going through the motions and finding ways to lose left and right. There's no hope in a bad team... There is hope in a mediocre team filled with good players. There can be hope with a decent minor league system, which they continue to ignore for the sake of keeping the window open. This has backfired and they’ve now a bad team with little to no reinforcements.
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Post by mihdennabios on Jun 12, 2024 6:33:12 GMT -6
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 13, 2024 18:24:58 GMT -6
Luhnow's wife on Twitter...
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 13, 2024 18:30:16 GMT -6
Luhnow's wife on Twitter... I was a huge Luhnow fan, but that was 4 years ago. Yes, Luhnow would have never signed Abreu and re-signed Montero, but the Astros have faired pretty well post Luhnow. They even won a WS without an *
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Post by Saint on Jun 14, 2024 1:19:49 GMT -6
Luhnow did a lot for us, but I'd actually take Click over him at the moment. There was just too much drama during Luhnow's reign.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 14, 2024 6:39:37 GMT -6
Luhnow did a lot for us, but I'd actually take Click over him at the moment. There was just too much drama during Luhnow's reign. Okay now you’re going too far.
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Post by Saint on Jun 14, 2024 8:06:17 GMT -6
Luhnow did a lot for us, but I'd actually take Click over him at the moment. There was just too much drama during Luhnow's reign. Okay now you’re going too far. How so? What drama was there under Click? And he had just as much success.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 14, 2024 8:10:30 GMT -6
Okay now you’re going too far. How so? What drama was there under Click? And he had just as much success. Taking Click over him was the part that was looney.
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Post by Saint on Jun 14, 2024 9:27:27 GMT -6
How so? What drama was there under Click? And he had just as much success. Taking Click over him was the part that was looney. I disagree. Click managed to keep and, in some ways improve, a good team that he inherited with far less resources to do so.
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 14, 2024 10:41:16 GMT -6
Taking Click over him was the part that was looney. I disagree. Click managed to keep and, in some ways improve, a good team that he inherited with far less resources to do so. Luhnow made a couple dumb trades. I honestly can't think of a bad trade Click made
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 14, 2024 11:59:32 GMT -6
Okay now you’re going too far. How so? What drama was there under Click? And he had just as much success. The drama with Luhnow stemmed from the legacy media hating him and the Astros for being too cold and calculating, treating players as assets, the total teardown and clear tanking, etc. Luhnow was hounded by the Buster Olneys of the industry. They hated him, and they hated even more that it worked in the end and made them look foolish. It was a continuation of the hate Billy Beane originally got in Oakland from the old schoolers. When suddenly they had the Taubman thing and then the sign stealing scandal, they were all too giddy to finally have another thing they could sort-kinda put at his feet. There was no drama under Click because he wasn't Luhnow, and because he hadn't been here long enough to put his stamp on things anyway. That said, Click did well and I wish he were still the GM. But the drama under Luhnow was not his fault and he is clearly the best GM we've ever had, and is on the very short list for best baseball GM in history.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jun 14, 2024 12:05:13 GMT -6
I disagree. Click managed to keep and, in some ways improve, a good team that he inherited with far less resources to do so. Luhnow made a couple dumb trades. I honestly can't think of a bad trade Click made Click was here for a fraction of the time Luhnow was, and inherited Luhnow's juggernaut. All he had to do was make a few swaps to keep the bullpen in good shape. Their situations are not at all comparable IMO.
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Post by Saint on Jun 14, 2024 12:12:27 GMT -6
How so? What drama was there under Click? And he had just as much success. The drama with Luhnow stemmed from the legacy media hating him and the Astros for being too cold and calculating, treating players as assets, the total teardown and clear tanking, etc. Luhnow was hounded by the Buster Olneys of the industry. They hated him, and they hated even more that it worked in the end and made them look foolish. It was a continuation of the hate Billy Beane originally got in Oakland from the old schoolers. When suddenly they had the Taubman thing and then the sign stealing scandal, they were all too giddy to finally have another thing they could sort-kinda put at his feet. There was no drama under Click because he wasn't Luhnow, and because he hadn't been here long enough to put his stamp on things anyway. That said, Click did well and I wish he were still the GM. But the drama under Luhnow was not his fault and he is clearly the best GM we've ever had, and is on the very short list for best baseball GM in history. I think he was a great GM, but part of his job is managing his personnel. His style and personnel caused problems and rifts at times that were unnecessary. He was too cold and calculating.
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