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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 1, 2019 21:09:21 GMT -6
Add steals to the list of things Jake can’t do. While Straw languishes at Round Rock. My point exactly. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 1, 2019 22:15:43 GMT -6
While Straw languishes at Round Rock. My point exactly. So far, all Straw has proven is that he has great speed. He has not shown he is the defender Jake is. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 1, 2019 23:15:30 GMT -6
Lmao, damn son
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Post by m240 on Apr 2, 2019 6:25:00 GMT -6
So far, all Straw has proven is that he has great speed. He has not shown he is the defender Jake is. His defense in the minors has been nothing less than fantastic. That is the one thing that translates to the major leagues without decline due to competition. While you were in the hospital he made two Marisnick type catches during the early part of spring training. They made the national highlight reels. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 2, 2019 6:53:07 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 2, 2019 8:57:33 GMT -6
C. Sampson was a converted OF if I'm not mistaken
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 9:25:08 GMT -6
Not that I think Marisnick is a long-term answer to anything but a roleplayer job, but it's worth mentioning that he has definitely not been a part of the problem so far.
Our 2nd and 3rd hitters combining for 2 RBI and about a .135 AVG is the primary problem.
And if we want to complain about roleplayer OFers, currently, Kemp has been useless.
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 2, 2019 9:26:11 GMT -6
Not that I think Marisnick is a long-term answer to anything but a roleplayer job, but it's worth mentioning that he has definitely not been a part of the problem so far. Our 2nd and 3rd hitters combining for 2 RBI and about a .135 AVG is the primary problem. And if we want to complain about roleplayer OFers, currently, Kemp has been useless. Racist! |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 2, 2019 9:31:23 GMT -6
Last night's game was so boring I turned to the punk documentary on EPIX. I never thought I'd see Fat Mike say nice things about Nirvana and Green Day
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 2, 2019 9:56:34 GMT -6
Not that I think Marisnick is a long-term answer to anything but a roleplayer job, but it's worth mentioning that he has definitely not been a part of the problem so far. Our 2nd and 3rd hitters combining for 2 RBI and about a .135 AVG is the primary problem. And if we want to complain about roleplayer OFers, currently, Kemp has been useless. No one is saying that Marisnick is the problem. I think pretty much all of us besides Hatch feel that his value to the team is overstated. The way his defense is discussed makes it seem like he held classes on instructing the players how to put on a glove or walk and chew gum simultaneously. He’s a great defender, but it’s not like he’s Andruw Jones in his prime. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 2, 2019 10:15:57 GMT -6
Not that I think Marisnick is a long-term answer to anything but a roleplayer job, but it's worth mentioning that he has definitely not been a part of the problem so far. Our 2nd and 3rd hitters combining for 2 RBI and about a .135 AVG is the primary problem. And if we want to complain about roleplayer OFers, currently, Kemp has been useless. No one is saying that Marisnick is the problem. I think pretty much all of us besides Hatch feel that his value to the team is overstated. The way his defense is discussed makes it seem like he held classes on instructing the players how to put on a glove or walk and chew gum simultaneously. He’s a great defender, but it’s not like he’s Andruw Jones in his prime. And his "skill" on the basepaths is sure as shit overstated. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 2, 2019 10:17:42 GMT -6
And the last few games have proven my frequent complaint about Joke to be valid. Every supporter of the dude always says "he's a great role player, defensive substitute, etc"...yet here he is, starting nearly every game so far, and sucking as usual.
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 10:22:33 GMT -6
Not that I think Marisnick is a long-term answer to anything but a roleplayer job, but it's worth mentioning that he has definitely not been a part of the problem so far. Our 2nd and 3rd hitters combining for 2 RBI and about a .135 AVG is the primary problem. And if we want to complain about roleplayer OFers, currently, Kemp has been useless. No one is saying that Marisnick is the problem. I think pretty much all of us besides Hatch feel that his value to the team is overstated. The way his defense is discussed makes it seem like he held classes on instructing the players how to put on a glove or walk and chew gum simultaneously. He’s a great defender, but it’s not like he’s Andruw Jones in his prime. His defense is actually probably just as good if not better than Andruw Jones depending on how much you believe the defensive metrics, but I get what you're saying. It all comes down, again, to how they use him. He shouldn't be starting half of the games (unless, I guess, he continues to hit .364 with a .900+ OPS...). |
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 10:25:23 GMT -6
And the last few games have proven my frequent complaint about Joke to be valid. Every supporter of the dude always says "he's a great role player, defensive substitute, etc"...yet here he is, starting nearly every game so far, and sucking as usual. He's only started half of the games (still too much), but it's hard to say he's sucking as usual when he's gotten at least one hit in each start. .364/.417/.636 1.053 OPS Obviously he won't stay close to maintaining that, but with a line like that so far, I don't know what there is to currently complain about with him. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 2, 2019 10:25:58 GMT -6
No one is saying that Marisnick is the problem. I think pretty much all of us besides Hatch feel that his value to the team is overstated. The way his defense is discussed makes it seem like he held classes on instructing the players how to put on a glove or walk and chew gum simultaneously. He’s a great defender, but it’s not like he’s Andruw Jones in his prime. (unless, I guess, he continues to hit .364 with a .900+ OPS...). Which he won't. And never has. Maybe .164 with a .600+ OPS |
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 10:27:23 GMT -6
(unless, I guess, he continues to hit .364 with a .900+ OPS...). Which he won't. And never has. Maybe .164 with a .600+ OPS Of course, but while he's hot why are we complaining about him? Let's be happily surprised and enjoy it while it lasts. Straw will get his chance sooner rather than later. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 2, 2019 11:45:22 GMT -6
Which he won't. And never has. Maybe .164 with a .600+ OPS Of course, but while he's hot why are we complaining about him? Let's be happily surprised and enjoy it while it lasts. Straw will get his chance sooner rather than later. Because he will STILL be in the lineup, even when he's not hot, and will still be blocking superior players. It's been going on for multiple years now, with only Corch and Hinch being fans of this untalented loser. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 11:48:19 GMT -6
Of course, but while he's hot why are we complaining about him? Let's be happily surprised and enjoy it while it lasts. Straw will get his chance sooner rather than later. Because he will STILL be in the lineup, even when he's not hot, and will still be blocking superior players. It's been going on for multiple years now, with only Corch and Hinch being fans of this untalented loser. Probably, but we should still have more than enough offensive prowess to carry one defensive-minded player. Our "Core Four" needs to do what they're supposed to do. Right now it's just a "Meh Two" at best. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 2, 2019 11:57:15 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of your "I know he's a useless appendage, but these other guys aren't living up to their potential, so meh, let him play" brand of player management.
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 12:08:41 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of your "I know he's a useless appendage, but these other guys aren't living up to their potential, so meh, let him play" brand of player management. Well, I don't think he is completely useless. I think he is overused at times. The rest of the stuff is just to point out that I don't believe he has shown to be a comparable area of concern so far, AND that he has enough defensive value to warrant some playing time until they feel Straw and/or Tucker are ready...even if he doesn't continue to hit over .300. Having an elite defensive talent (and he is elite defensively even when he sucks at everything else) in CF is certainly very useful a portion of the time, and our team should hit more than well enough to compensate for what he lacks offensively during that portion. But, for the record, I too would rather have Straw up here. I'm just saying that Jake has been fine this year (better than fine, actually). |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 2, 2019 12:14:22 GMT -6
C. Sampson was a converted OF if I'm not mistaken I think Brandon Backe fell into the same category. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 2, 2019 12:20:56 GMT -6
With Jake he is past the point to re-invent himself, what you see is what you get. What I saw with Straw was a player that made consistent contact last season and this spring. Also when it comes to range, the catch he caught backing up Kemp this spring and practically caught the ball in left field sold me.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 2, 2019 12:41:19 GMT -6
Kemp almost pushed Jake out of a job last year .. I wonder if Straw is motivating Tucker in the same manner
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 2, 2019 15:11:24 GMT -6
No one is saying that Marisnick is the problem. I think pretty much all of us besides Hatch feel that his value to the team is overstated. The way his defense is discussed makes it seem like he held classes on instructing the players how to put on a glove or walk and chew gum simultaneously. He’s a great defender, but it’s not like he’s Andruw Jones in his prime. His defense is actually probably just as good if not better than Andruw Jones depending on how much you believe the defensive metrics, but I get what you're saying. It all comes down, again, to how they use him. He shouldn't be starting half of the games (unless, I guess, he continues to hit .364 with a .900+ OPS...). Blasphemy. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 15:22:52 GMT -6
His defense is actually probably just as good if not better than Andruw Jones depending on how much you believe the defensive metrics, but I get what you're saying. It all comes down, again, to how they use him. He shouldn't be starting half of the games (unless, I guess, he continues to hit .364 with a .900+ OPS...). Blasphemy. Besides, Andruw can't even spell his name properly. He deserves no credit! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 2, 2019 15:23:28 GMT -6
I'm not a fan of your "I know he's a useless appendage, but these other guys aren't living up to their potential, so meh, let him play" brand of player management. But, for the record, I too would rather have Straw up here. I'm just saying that Jake has been fine this year (better than fine, actually). Marisnick can field and hit home runs. Straw can field, probably run the bases better, steals better, has more of a penchant to get on base, is younger, and has more of a future with this team. Marwin had to be and was let go and was a key contributor for the Astros with signature moments here and there. Marisnick is more forgettable and offensively is the perennial ‘Little Engine That Could’ but won’t. He’s blocking Tucker, Straw, or Alvarez from a deserved roster spot, and that should probably change. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 2, 2019 15:23:54 GMT -6
Besides, Andruw can't even spell his name properly. He deserves no credit! Well, you have a point there. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 2, 2019 16:16:53 GMT -6
But, for the record, I too would rather have Straw up here. I'm just saying that Jake has been fine this year (better than fine, actually). Marisnick can field and hit home runs. Straw can field, probably run the bases better, steals better, has more of a penchant to get on base, is younger, and has more of a future with this team. Marwin had to be and was let go and was a key contributor for the Astros with signature moments here and there. Marisnick is more forgettable and offensively is the perennial ‘Little Engine That Could’ but won’t. He’s blocking Tucker, Straw, or Alvarez from a deserved roster spot, and that should probably change. A. Marwin had one moment. I wouldn't make that plural. B. Marisnick isn't blocking any of those guys because we should be wanting all of them to get regular consistent playing time. Marisnick isn't going to get regular playing time as we face more righties. They'll all get their chance, and none of them would likely do better than Marisnick has done so far. |
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