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Post by unionstation82 on May 21, 2019 20:35:08 GMT -6
I wanted history, but I’ll settle with 7 innings and 12 K’s.
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Post by bannedfan on May 21, 2019 20:39:52 GMT -6
3 DP’s tonight😩
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Post by unionstation82 on May 21, 2019 20:41:14 GMT -6
The offense is avoiding a blowout with these missed chances.
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Post by bannedfan on May 21, 2019 20:47:56 GMT -6
JV is so good. A lot of pitchers would have been upset after losing the no-hitter. He’s retired the next 5 batters.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 21, 2019 20:57:06 GMT -6
JV is so good. A lot of pitchers would have been upset after losing the no-hitter. He’s retired the next 5 batters. He would still have a no-no had the Prime Minister of Defense climbed the wall.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 21, 2019 20:59:31 GMT -6
I hope we don’t need Osuna...
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Post by bannedfan on May 21, 2019 21:02:52 GMT -6
14 K’s Tonight.
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Post by bannedfan on May 21, 2019 21:04:04 GMT -6
Two wins in a row.
33-16 on the season.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 21, 2019 21:32:26 GMT -6
JV is so good. A lot of pitchers would have been upset after losing the no-hitter. He’s retired the next 5 batters. the Prime Minister of Defense Lmao
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2019 22:11:49 GMT -6
And just like that, Kemp has become a better hitter than Gurriel OPS-wise. And just like that Yuli hits a home run and goes 2-4 and you want to say Kemp is better.........you are dillusional. More to it than OPS. Kemp could never produce what Yuli does.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2019 22:15:18 GMT -6
JV is so good. A lot of pitchers would have been upset after losing the no-hitter. He’s retired the next 5 batters. He would still have a no-no had the Prime Minister of Defense climbed the wall. No way in hell should the home run ball have been caught. Jake or no other OF would have caught it including Ken Griffey Jr. or Willie Mays. None of them are 7 feet tall. JV's comments after the game don't back up your post
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Post by blcoach8 on May 21, 2019 22:17:15 GMT -6
The only story of this game was Justin Verlander. We had a home run and drew some walks that got us 5 runs and a win.
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Post by astrosdoug on May 21, 2019 22:52:12 GMT -6
Nine straight wins against the White Sox... paying 'em back for the 2005 WS and for sweeping the Stros in the summer of 2017.
It was nice to see the Stros take advantage of Covey's and Bummer's meltdown in the middle of the game, and if only JV had made a different pitch to Abreu... this team is ready for another no-hitter. Been 4-5 years since Fiers did it, it's time.
Still a few things to nitpick about in this game though --
1) JV really should've been allowed to finish the CG 1-hitter. The way Rondon came out there and walked the first batter he faced, I really have to think JV was the more reliable pitcher to be out there. JV didn't look winded at all when he finished the 8th. If Rondon had given up a HR to Abreu, Hinch would have been forced to get Osuna up and that would have been an awful way to have to finish the night when JV was capable of going the distance.
2) Running game should have been more aggressive tonight. The White Sox had their backup catcher in there so the AStros really should have tried to move those runners off of 1B to prevent the DP.
3) The catcher's interference presented a great opportunity to add on but then the Stros forgot what helped them have their big inning (*patient hitting*) and threw their opportunity away with a couple cheap AB's. It ended up being inconsequential but you never know when you are going to need those 6th, 7th, or 8th runs in the game.
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Post by astrosdoug on May 21, 2019 22:58:31 GMT -6
Diaz has always been a good bat, but Refugees abandoned him when he went 0-4 in spring training, like they always do. Refugees abandon a lot of players.... For the record, I haven't abandoned Tyler White... just a quick look at his career since he was drafted shows that he has overcome repeated bouts with adversity, so I don't expect him to just end it all with one colossal failure, or to give up. He'll make the changes he needs to. I think he tried to improve his hitting approach over the 2018 version and some of his changes were ill-advised. Not sure how much of the changes were his own idea and which ones were coming from the new hitting coach or... whoever. Certainly he made some poor choices in the off season in terms of training and conditioning, but those are choices that can be corrected. When Tyler finishes the season with that .850 OPS, we can come back to this post.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2019 3:49:24 GMT -6
He would still have a no-no had the Prime Minister of Defense climbed the wall. No way in hell should the home run ball have been caught. Jake or no other OF would have caught it including Ken Griffey Jr. or Willie Mays. None of them are 7 feet tall. JV's comments after the game don't back up your post I’m messing with you although I think a guy like Buxton, Kiermaier, or even Trout would’ve been on that wall reaching up to try and get it. Do I think they would’ve caught it? No.
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Post by marshall on May 22, 2019 3:54:51 GMT -6
You can probably get to about 10 feet with the glove hand and 8 feet with the "climbing" hand. I don't know what the height of the CF wall is, but it appears taller to me than the RF wall where the more spectacular plays are usually seen.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2019 7:13:48 GMT -6
You can probably get to about 10 feet with the glove hand and 8 feet with the "climbing" hand. I don't know what the height of the CF wall is, but it appears taller to me than the RF wall where the more spectacular plays are usually seen. In the old days, that would’ve been a triple on Tal’s Hill as evidenced by the ball headed downward at the end. With the CF’s I mentioned earlier, I think it would’ve been caught on that hill.
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Post by cajunstros on May 22, 2019 7:38:51 GMT -6
The effort was my only knock on Jake. If I’ve got his body/skills I would have ended up behind the wall trying to save a no-no. I think a player like Reddick or Springer would have sacrificed life and limb to catch that. Now, would they have caught it? We’ll never know. Would the effort had been better, seeing the way they play, you have to thick it would have been.
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Post by marshall on May 22, 2019 8:24:41 GMT -6
The effort was my only knock on Jake. If I’ve got his body/skills I would have ended up behind the wall trying to save a no-no. I think a player like Reddick or Springer would have sacrificed life and limb to catch that. Now, would they have caught it? We’ll never know. Would the effort had been better, seeing the way they play, you have to thick it would have been. I watched it several times and I think Marisnick was too anxious and jumped a second too soon and was on his way down when the ball arrived. I haven't heard from Marisnick, but I suspect he might think he should have caught that ball.
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Post by Saint on May 22, 2019 8:39:28 GMT -6
And just like that, Kemp has become a better hitter than Gurriel OPS-wise. And just like that Yuli hits a home run and goes 2-4 and you want to say Kemp is better.........you are dillusional. More to it than OPS. Kemp could never produce what Yuli does. I literally said "Kemp has become a better hitter than Gurriel OPS-wise". That means, strictly speaking, he was better OPS-wise. Don't have a heart attack. I know you love our overpriced mediocre 1B.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2019 9:30:07 GMT -6
And just like that Yuli hits a home run and goes 2-4 and you want to say Kemp is better.........you are dillusional. More to it than OPS. Kemp could never produce what Yuli does. I literally said "Kemp has become a better hitter than Gurriel OPS-wise". That means, strictly speaking, he was better OPS-wise. Don't have a heart attack. I know you love our overpriced mediocre 1B. I’m on your side about Gurriel, my n-word.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2019 9:34:01 GMT -6
The effort was my only knock on Jake. If I’ve got his body/skills I would have ended up behind the wall trying to save a no-no. I think a player like Reddick or Springer would have sacrificed life and limb to catch that. Now, would they have caught it? We’ll never know. Would the effort had been better, seeing the way they play, you have to thick it would have been. I watched it several times and I think Marisnick was too anxious and jumped a second too soon and was on his way down when the ball arrived. I haven't heard from Marisnick, but I suspect he might think he should have caught that ball. Jake should’ve tried harder. Take a guy like Kiermaier for example. He might not have caught it, but you bet he would’ve had a knee on top of the wall with his arm outstretched by the time the ball got in that area. Jake can be a hesitant fielder when fly balls are hit deep, and his defense is overrated. Like I said, people act like he is Andruw Jones in his prime and he is not. Is he a plus fielder? Yes, but he’s not God’s gift to center field, especially not to the point where it warrants everyday playing time.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 22, 2019 9:48:23 GMT -6
No way in hell should the home run ball have been caught. Jake or no other OF would have caught it including Ken Griffey Jr. or Willie Mays. None of them are 7 feet tall. JV's comments after the game don't back up your post I’m messing with you although I think a guy like Buxton, Kiermaier, or even Trout would’ve been on that wall reaching up to try and get it. Do I think they would’ve caught it? No. looked to me like Jake did all he could and JV seemed to think so, too. I figured you were messing with me.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 22, 2019 9:50:09 GMT -6
And just like that Yuli hits a home run and goes 2-4 and you want to say Kemp is better.........you are dillusional. More to it than OPS. Kemp could never produce what Yuli does. I literally said "Kemp has become a better hitter than Gurriel OPS-wise". That means, strictly speaking, he was better OPS-wise. Don't have a heart attack. I know you love our overpriced mediocre 1B. I guess you would be happier with lard ass White at first base. Kemp is barely worth a roster spot based on what he produces.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 22, 2019 9:52:07 GMT -6
I watched it several times and I think Marisnick was too anxious and jumped a second too soon and was on his way down when the ball arrived. I haven't heard from Marisnick, but I suspect he might think he should have caught that ball. Jake should’ve tried harder. Take a guy like Kiermaier for example. He might not have caught it, but you bet he would’ve had a knee on top of the wall with his arm outstretched by the time the ball got in that area. Jake can be a hesitant fielder when fly balls are hit deep, and his defense is overrated. Like I said, people act like he is Andruw Jones in his prime and he is not. Is he a plus fielder? Yes, but he’s not God’s gift to center field, especially not to the point where it warrants everyday playing time. He has proven to be one of the top CF's in the game and nobody busts his butt and tries harder. Take off your damn blinders.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 22, 2019 10:52:27 GMT -6
I’m messing with you although I think a guy like Buxton, Kiermaier, or even Trout would’ve been on that wall reaching up to try and get it. Do I think they would’ve caught it? No. looked to me like Jake did all he could and JV seemed to think so, too. I figured you were messing with me. Using Verlanders interview as proof of how great your boy toy is is just silly. No pitcher is going to tell a reporter "I'd have my no hitter if only this untalented hack Joke had tried harder"
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Post by Saint on May 22, 2019 11:29:58 GMT -6
I literally said "Kemp has become a better hitter than Gurriel OPS-wise". That means, strictly speaking, he was better OPS-wise. Don't have a heart attack. I know you love our overpriced mediocre 1B. I guess you would be happier with lard ass White at first base. Kemp is barely worth a roster spot based on what he produces. I would be if he starts hitting. I'd gladly pay his fat ass $600K over $13 million....
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2019 11:51:07 GMT -6
I guess you would be happier with lard ass White at first base. Kemp is barely worth a roster spot based on what he produces. I would be if he starts hitting. I'd gladly pay his fat ass $600K over $13 million.... ***** YES
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Post by blcoach8 on May 22, 2019 12:08:55 GMT -6
looked to me like Jake did all he could and JV seemed to think so, too. I figured you were messing with me. Using Verlanders interview as proof of how great your boy toy is is just silly. No pitcher is going to tell a reporter "I'd have my no hitter if only this untalented hack Joke had tried harder" nothing is sillier than you continuing to trash Jake even though you are currently being proven wrong. It is well known that Verlander wants Jake in CF when he pitches because he is flyball pitcher. I can just imagine Kemp running around out there misjudging balls that Jake would catch. you continue showing your ignorance by bashing him. Check the numbers.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 22, 2019 12:12:19 GMT -6
I guess you would be happier with lard ass White at first base. Kemp is barely worth a roster spot based on what he produces. I would be if he starts hitting. I'd gladly pay his fat ass $600K over $13 million.... He has had ONE productive game and that was against weak pitching. That is like paying his fat ass $600K to average four productive games for the season. With the game on the line. if I had to choose between lard ass and Yuli to deliver a clutch hit, I take Yuli every time.
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