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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 5, 2021 22:27:27 GMT -6
Jordan rip one up the middle. Who?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 5, 2021 22:29:25 GMT -6
Yup, his reputation for mishandling his bullpen is living up to the lore. I don’t think I can do another season with him at the helm. I wouldn't want a season without him. One of the best in the game... Why you so salty today? You drunk?
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Post by blcoach8 on May 5, 2021 23:20:45 GMT -6
Can someone explain to me why we keep running this Raley guy out there in games we have a chance to win? My patience with Dusty is about up. My patience with that clown ran out a long time ago.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 5, 2021 23:21:59 GMT -6
Can someone explain to me why we keep running this Raley guy out there in games we have a chance to win? I suppose for the same reason we keep Joe Smith on the roster.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 5, 2021 23:22:59 GMT -6
Really tough to watch Jose right now. I feel bad for him. I want to see him get hot again. He is as lost as a blind dog in a smokehouse......so is Tucker.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 5, 2021 23:25:13 GMT -6
To all you Strom fanatics, why does almost the whole pitching staff have command issues? part of it is caused by umpires squeezing our pitchers....It is obvious, especially in both games with the Yankees.
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Post by abregmanfan on May 6, 2021 8:11:20 GMT -6
I wouldn't want a season without him. One of the best in the game... Why you so salty today? You drunk? my head is killing me today...
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Post by bearbryant on May 6, 2021 8:39:11 GMT -6
even if Dusty has a good bullpen he messes it up in October. It's no mystery he hasn't managed a team to the World Series since Bonds
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Post by bearbryant on May 6, 2021 8:49:14 GMT -6
Poor Garcia didn’t make his 5. he needs to lose the El DeBarge jerry curl do
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 8:56:27 GMT -6
even if Dusty has a good bullpen he messes it up in October. It's no mystery he hasn't managed a team to the World Series since Bonds He has screwed up every pitching staff he has ever managed.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 8:59:30 GMT -6
And just as expected, our dumbass manager puts Maldonado back in the lineup today to catch McCullers. There is 3 guaranteed K's for Cole. Then, to reward Diaz for his good hitting last night, he puts him back on the bench, but, keeps Altuve in the lineup even though it is obvious that Jose needs a day off. The stupidity and incompetence of Dusty Baker keeps coming through loud and clear. WAKE UP CLICK....FIRE THE SOB while we still have a shot at the post season.
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Post by Saint on May 6, 2021 9:01:53 GMT -6
I just wanted to give you a chance to confirm what we already knew.....you think Altuve makes or breaks this team when there is no evidence to show that to be true. In fact, he is one of the most inconsistent hitters on the team. He is streaky to say the least. Right now, he is not very good. The most consistent hitter on the team is Michael Brantley. Yuli and Yordan are more consistent than Jose. As Altuve has improved and excelled so has the team if you look at the last 10 years. When Altuve struggles, the team struggles. The Astros best years were the years Altuve was at his best. Look at 2015-2019 when we had peak Altuve. Then look at 2020 and 2021 so far. You don't have to like it or believe it, but Altuve has been the backbone of this team since he was our only all-star during the 100-loss seasons. As he grew into a superstar the team became a powerhouse. Obviously it isn't all Jose, but he was the guy they built around. He is one of the best postseason players we've ever had, and, if he gets it together again, our probable 3rd HoF player. All that being said, we need him to get going. There have been some better signs in his last 5 or so ABs. Hard contact, not chasing horrible pitches, being more patient, etc. With his struggles against righties this year, he probably needs a day off against Cole today. We'll see. I have no doubt that he doesn't want to miss a game in NYC and have people think he's hiding on the bench ( See: Fiers) from the fans.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 9:26:13 GMT -6
I just wanted to give you a chance to confirm what we already knew.....you think Altuve makes or breaks this team when there is no evidence to show that to be true. In fact, he is one of the most inconsistent hitters on the team. He is streaky to say the least. Right now, he is not very good. The most consistent hitter on the team is Michael Brantley. Yuli and Yordan are more consistent than Jose. As Altuve has improved and excelled so has the team if you look at the last 10 years. When Altuve struggles, the team struggles. The Astros best years were the years Altuve was at his best. Look at 2015-2019 when we had peak Altuve. Then look at 2020 and 2021 so far. You don't have to like it or believe it, but Altuve has been the backbone of this team since he was our only all-star during the 100-loss seasons. As he grew into a superstar the team became a powerhouse. Obviously it isn't all Jose, but he was the guy they built around. He is one of the best postseason players we've ever had, and, if he gets it together again, our probable 3rd HoF player. All that being said, we need him to get going. There have been some better signs in his last 5 or so ABs. Hard contact, not chasing horrible pitches, being more patient, etc. With his struggles against righties this year, he probably needs a day off against Cole today. We'll see. I have no doubt that he doesn't want to miss a game in NYC and have people think he's hiding on the bench ( See: Fiers) from the fans. Nobody is denying his value to the team, but, to say the team went as Jose went is inaccurate. True, that when he is hitting we do a lot better. BUT, when he was out due to injury, and, Springer was in the lineup, our offense still clicked and we actually increased our lead in the division. When Altuve was in the lineup and Springer was injured, we were not as productive and our lead in the division shrank. Over the last four seasons, George Springer was the backbone of the team. You can spin it all you want to, but, your little hero was not the best player on the team then, and, he is not the best on the team now. I don't think he wants to hide in NY, but, it looks as if the Yankee fans are getting to him. He was in a slump coming into this series. Diaz had a good game last night so why not rest Jose and let Diaz play second base? If Jose is concerned about how it would look for him to be out of the lineup today, that is an indication that Yankee fans have gotten into his head.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 6, 2021 9:34:40 GMT -6
I just wanted to give you a chance to confirm what we already knew.....you think Altuve makes or breaks this team when there is no evidence to show that to be true. In fact, he is one of the most inconsistent hitters on the team. He is streaky to say the least. Right now, he is not very good. The most consistent hitter on the team is Michael Brantley. Yuli and Yordan are more consistent than Jose. There have been some better signs in his last 5 or so ABs. Hard contact, not chasing horrible pitches, being more patient, etc. With his struggles against righties this year, he probably needs a day off against Cole today. We'll see. I have no doubt that he doesn't want to miss a game in NYC and have people think he's hiding on the bench ( See: Fiers) from the fans. What’s hurting Altuve right now is a combination of things. He’s being like Bregman and taking pitches on the outer half of the plate, some well in the strike zone. He’s swinging at pitches out of the zone and generally missing. The questionable pitches he’d normally drive foul or for hits are being missed or hit weakly. We all know he should do better. Maybe it’s all in his head, but what we’re seeing so far are prolonged cold streaks by him on offense.
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Post by Saint on May 6, 2021 9:37:14 GMT -6
As Altuve has improved and excelled so has the team if you look at the last 10 years. When Altuve struggles, the team struggles. The Astros best years were the years Altuve was at his best. Look at 2015-2019 when we had peak Altuve. Then look at 2020 and 2021 so far. You don't have to like it or believe it, but Altuve has been the backbone of this team since he was our only all-star during the 100-loss seasons. As he grew into a superstar the team became a powerhouse. Obviously it isn't all Jose, but he was the guy they built around. He is one of the best postseason players we've ever had, and, if he gets it together again, our probable 3rd HoF player. All that being said, we need him to get going. There have been some better signs in his last 5 or so ABs. Hard contact, not chasing horrible pitches, being more patient, etc. With his struggles against righties this year, he probably needs a day off against Cole today. We'll see. I have no doubt that he doesn't want to miss a game in NYC and have people think he's hiding on the bench ( See: Fiers) from the fans. Nobody is denying his value to the team, but, to say the team went as Jose went is inaccurate. True, that when he is hitting we do a lot better. BUT, when he was out due to injury, and, Springer was in the lineup, our offense still clicked and we actually increased our lead in the division. When Altuve was in the lineup and Springer was injured, we were not as productive and our lead in the division shrank. Over the last four seasons, George Springer was the backbone of the team. You can spin it all you want to, but, your little hero was not the best player on the team then, and, he is not the best on the team now. I don't think he wants to hide in NY, but, it looks as if the Yankee fans are getting to him. He was in a slump coming into this series. Diaz had a good game last night so why not rest Jose and let Diaz play second base? If Jose is concerned about how it would look for him to be out of the lineup today, that is an indication that Yankee fans have gotten into his head. The numbers don't support your statements regarding Springer though despite how much you re-post it. At their best during that prime team of ours from 2015-2019, Altuve was the superior player by almost any metric you can use. And despite George having a good 2020 season (such as it was), his presence didn't keep us from being a sub-.500 team. Then the postseason success we had was from Altuve hitting .375 and carrying the offense. It is what it is. Even this year the Astros have a better record with Altuve playing (even while struggling) than when he isn't.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 9:47:45 GMT -6
Nobody is denying his value to the team, but, to say the team went as Jose went is inaccurate. True, that when he is hitting we do a lot better. BUT, when he was out due to injury, and, Springer was in the lineup, our offense still clicked and we actually increased our lead in the division. When Altuve was in the lineup and Springer was injured, we were not as productive and our lead in the division shrank. Over the last four seasons, George Springer was the backbone of the team. You can spin it all you want to, but, your little hero was not the best player on the team then, and, he is not the best on the team now. I don't think he wants to hide in NY, but, it looks as if the Yankee fans are getting to him. He was in a slump coming into this series. Diaz had a good game last night so why not rest Jose and let Diaz play second base? If Jose is concerned about how it would look for him to be out of the lineup today, that is an indication that Yankee fans have gotten into his head. The numbers don't support your statements regarding Springer though despite how much you re-post it. At their best during that prime team of ours from 2015-2019, Altuve was the superior player by almost any metric you can use. And despite George having a good 2020 season (such as it was), his presence didn't keep us from being a sub-.500 team. Then the postseason success we had was from Altuve hitting .375 and carrying the offense. It is what it is. Even this year the Astros have a better record with Altuve playing (even while struggling) than when he isn't. As usual, you think your little stat sheet tells the complete story and refuse to see any other factors. Springer's teammates said.....more than once...in interviews that George was what "made the offense go". When he was out of the lineup, it sputtered even with little Jose in there hitting. Jose is the guy who was here all through the 100 loss years and is still here after we used those 100 loss seasons to get the draft picks we used to build the team we have now. The "numbers' DO verify what I said about the team being better, including run production, with Jose out and George in the lineup. There is no need for you to waste time trying to disprove that because it is a FACT.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 6, 2021 9:48:25 GMT -6
As Altuve has improved and excelled so has the team if you look at the last 10 years. When Altuve struggles, the team struggles. The Astros best years were the years Altuve was at his best. Look at 2015-2019 when we had peak Altuve. Then look at 2020 and 2021 so far. You don't have to like it or believe it, but Altuve has been the backbone of this team since he was our only all-star during the 100-loss seasons. As he grew into a superstar the team became a powerhouse. Obviously it isn't all Jose, but he was the guy they built around. He is one of the best postseason players we've ever had, and, if he gets it together again, our probable 3rd HoF player. All that being said, we need him to get going. There have been some better signs in his last 5 or so ABs. Hard contact, not chasing horrible pitches, being more patient, etc. With his struggles against righties this year, he probably needs a day off against Cole today. We'll see. I have no doubt that he doesn't want to miss a game in NYC and have people think he's hiding on the bench ( See: Fiers) from the fans. Nobody is denying his value to the team, but, to say the team went as Jose went is inaccurate. True, that when he is hitting we do a lot better. BUT, when he was out due to injury, and, Springer was in the lineup, our offense still clicked and we actually increased our lead in the division. When Altuve was in the lineup and Springer was injured, we were not as productive and our lead in the division shrank. Over the last four seasons, George Springer was the backbone of the team. You can spin it all you want to, but, your little hero was not the best player on the team then, and, he is not the best on the team now. I don't think he wants to hide in NY, but, it looks as if the Yankee fans are getting to him. He was in a slump coming into this series. Diaz had a good game last night so why not rest Jose and let Diaz play second base? If Jose is concerned about how it would look for him to be out of the lineup today, that is an indication that Yankee fans have gotten into his head. Springer had more power and more powerful streaks than Altuve, but he was not the most essential player on the team, especially if you compare each by their respective positions. Springer is a great but not a top-tier first class outfielder like Mookie Betts or anything. Altuve is an elite-level second baseman. What is affecting your perception is Springer's WS 2017 performance, but remember that Altuve, Bregman, Correa, and even Marwin also had extremely clutch moments in that series.
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Post by bearbryant on May 6, 2021 10:05:10 GMT -6
He's the one with the most consistent history of success that is struggling. Makes it more of a focus. It's like when Bagwell would slump. If you go back to the Bagwell days, OMB was his biggest critic. it'd be nice to read an OMB op-ed on the cheating scandal. I probably wouldn't agree with it but I liked reading his viewpoints
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Post by Saint on May 6, 2021 10:16:19 GMT -6
The numbers don't support your statements regarding Springer though despite how much you re-post it. At their best during that prime team of ours from 2015-2019, Altuve was the superior player by almost any metric you can use. And despite George having a good 2020 season (such as it was), his presence didn't keep us from being a sub-.500 team. Then the postseason success we had was from Altuve hitting .375 and carrying the offense. It is what it is. Even this year the Astros have a better record with Altuve playing (even while struggling) than when he isn't. As usual, you think your little stat sheet tells the complete story and refuse to see any other factors. Springer's teammates said.....more than once...in interviews that George was what "made the offense go". When he was out of the lineup, it sputtered even with little Jose in there hitting. Jose is the guy who was here all through the 100 loss years and is still here after we used those 100 loss seasons to get the draft picks we used to build the team we have now. The "numbers' DO verify what I said about the team being better, including run production, with Jose out and George in the lineup. There is no need for you to waste time trying to disprove that because it is a FACT. I'd like to see the numbers you're using. What are they?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 6, 2021 10:31:56 GMT -6
If you go back to the Bagwell days, OMB was his biggest critic. it'd be nice to read an OMB op-ed on the cheating scandal. I probably wouldn't agree with it but I liked reading his viewpointsHe's surely dead, Jim.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 6, 2021 10:38:38 GMT -6
Jordan rip one up the middle. Who? C'mon Man, I just caught the HogCard syndrome, "my finger slipped" 11111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111
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Post by paastrosfan on May 6, 2021 10:45:59 GMT -6
If you go back to the Bagwell days, OMB was his biggest critic. it'd be nice to read an OMB op-ed on the cheating scandal. I probably wouldn't agree with it but I liked reading his viewpointsThere was nothing better than his short stories with the séance, candle and the bag of chicken bones.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 6, 2021 10:53:35 GMT -6
it'd be nice to read an OMB op-ed on the cheating scandal. I probably wouldn't agree with it but I liked reading his viewpoints He's surely dead, Jim. Do you think the same feat for Astro Hop, and Hamp 13. Those guys brought a lot.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 6, 2021 11:04:05 GMT -6
Let's hope Lance isn't stupid enough to throw Stanton or Judge a fastball.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 6, 2021 11:49:30 GMT -6
Do you think the same feat for Astro Hop, and Hamp 13. Those guys brought a lot. Those two didn't see Ruth play in a live game.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 18:32:41 GMT -6
As usual, you think your little stat sheet tells the complete story and refuse to see any other factors. Springer's teammates said.....more than once...in interviews that George was what "made the offense go". When he was out of the lineup, it sputtered even with little Jose in there hitting. Jose is the guy who was here all through the 100 loss years and is still here after we used those 100 loss seasons to get the draft picks we used to build the team we have now. The "numbers' DO verify what I said about the team being better, including run production, with Jose out and George in the lineup. There is no need for you to waste time trying to disprove that because it is a FACT. I'd like to see the numbers you're using. What are they? Standings from 2019 comparing the record and run production for games when each played while the other was on the IL. It speaks for itself.
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Post by Saint on May 6, 2021 19:39:52 GMT -6
I'd like to see the numbers you're using. What are they? Standings from 2019 comparing the record and run production for games when each played while the other was on the IL. It speaks for itself. So you're using one season? Got it. Nice sample size you got there.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 21:56:14 GMT -6
Nobody is denying his value to the team, but, to say the team went as Jose went is inaccurate. True, that when he is hitting we do a lot better. BUT, when he was out due to injury, and, Springer was in the lineup, our offense still clicked and we actually increased our lead in the division. When Altuve was in the lineup and Springer was injured, we were not as productive and our lead in the division shrank. Over the last four seasons, George Springer was the backbone of the team. You can spin it all you want to, but, your little hero was not the best player on the team then, and, he is not the best on the team now. I don't think he wants to hide in NY, but, it looks as if the Yankee fans are getting to him. He was in a slump coming into this series. Diaz had a good game last night so why not rest Jose and let Diaz play second base? If Jose is concerned about how it would look for him to be out of the lineup today, that is an indication that Yankee fans have gotten into his head. Springer had more power and more powerful streaks than Altuve, but he was not the most essential player on the team, especially if you compare each by their respective positions. Springer is a great but not a top-tier first class outfielder like Mookie Betts or anything. Altuve is an elite-level second baseman. What is affecting your perception is Springer's WS 2017 performance, but remember that Altuve, Bregman, Correa, and even Marwin also had extremely clutch moments in that series. This is the "elite-level second baseman" whose throwing errors kept us out of last year's WS. Even though George was the MVP of the 2017 WS, that is not what my opinion is based on. As I said, I looked at the won-loss record and offensive output of the team in 2019 and compared the results when Springer was out of the lineup and Altuve was playing to when Altuve was out of the lineup and George was playing. Our offense suffered when George was out and our won-loss record was worse. When Altuve was out, our won-loss record was better, run production didn't suffer, and we increased our lead in the division. When Diaz replaced Altuve, Diaz was a hot hitter and then he was injured, too. Altuve, Correa, and others said in interviews that George made the offense click and they were not as good with him out. I am not trying to belittle Altuve...just pointing out Springer's value to the team. Some will never accept the fact that George was our MVP the last four years he was here and will try to dig up WAR and other metric BS to try to make it appear that Jose was better. He was not.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 6, 2021 22:04:52 GMT -6
Standings from 2019 comparing the record and run production for games when each played while the other was on the IL. It speaks for itself. So you're using one season? Got it. Nice sample size you got there. No not just 2019. He was damn sure better than Jose in 2020, when your little man crush hit .219. He did hit in the post-season but, he was also responsible for our failure to make the WS when he GAVE the Rays EIGHT runs in the ALCS when he failed to make throws most ten-year old kids in LL can make. Now, go dig up some more "metric" bullshit to try and prove yourself right. The teams record and offensive performance when George out of the lineup suffered. When Altuve was out, they were as good or better. You will always say Jose was the team MVP when he wasn't. I know George has not been available for the Blue Jays to help them except for a two home run game against the Braves, but, our home run production and offense is down this year without Springer. You don't replace an all-star outfielder with his production with Myles Straw and the team not suffer. In fact, Straw has yet to prove he is more valuable to us than either Marisnick or Reddick. Once he increases his OBP, he can be if he uses his speed. But, as of now, he hasn't done it. Hopefully, today's game with the big home run gets him back in a hitting groove because his batting average had dropped from close to .340 down to .247 when today's game started.
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Post by Saint on May 7, 2021 9:03:02 GMT -6
So you're using one season? Got it. Nice sample size you got there. No not just 2019. He was damn sure better than Jose in 2020, when your little man crush hit .219. He did hit in the post-season but, he was also responsible for our failure to make the WS when he GAVE the Rays EIGHT runs in the ALCS when he failed to make throws most ten-year old kids in LL can make. Now, go dig up some more "metric" bullshit to try and prove yourself right. The teams record and offensive performance when George out of the lineup suffered. When Altuve was out, they were as good or better. You will always say Jose was the team MVP when he wasn't. I know George has not been available for the Blue Jays to help them except for a two home run game against the Braves, but, our home run production and offense is down this year without Springer. You don't replace an all-star outfielder with his production with Myles Straw and the team not suffer. In fact, Straw has yet to prove he is more valuable to us than either Marisnick or Reddick. Once he increases his OBP, he can be if he uses his speed. But, as of now, he hasn't done it. Hopefully, today's game with the big home run gets him back in a hitting groove because his batting average had dropped from close to .340 down to .247 when today's game started. There's no point in finding more numbers. I've shown them to you before and you disregard them. That's why I stopped arguing about it before. I was just explaining to you when you asked about me. You like Springer; I prefer Altuve. It doesn't matter. The difference is that only one of us goes out of our way to bash the other player constantly.
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