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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 13:18:04 GMT -6
No not just 2019. He was damn sure better than Jose in 2020, when your little man crush hit .219. He did hit in the post-season but, he was also responsible for our failure to make the WS when he GAVE the Rays EIGHT runs in the ALCS when he failed to make throws most ten-year old kids in LL can make. Now, go dig up some more "metric" bullshit to try and prove yourself right. The teams record and offensive performance when George out of the lineup suffered. When Altuve was out, they were as good or better. You will always say Jose was the team MVP when he wasn't. I know George has not been available for the Blue Jays to help them except for a two home run game against the Braves, but, our home run production and offense is down this year without Springer. You don't replace an all-star outfielder with his production with Myles Straw and the team not suffer. In fact, Straw has yet to prove he is more valuable to us than either Marisnick or Reddick. Once he increases his OBP, he can be if he uses his speed. But, as of now, he hasn't done it. Hopefully, today's game with the big home run gets him back in a hitting groove because his batting average had dropped from close to .340 down to .247 when today's game started. There's no point in finding more numbers. I've shown them to you before and you disregard them. That's why I stopped arguing about it before. I was just explaining to you when you asked about me. You like Springer; I prefer Altuve. It doesn't matter. The difference is that only one of us goes out of our way to bash the other player constantly. Point out one thing I have said about Altuve that is not true. Pointing out weaknesses as well as strengths is not bashing.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 7, 2021 13:49:30 GMT -6
There's no point in finding more numbers. I've shown them to you before and you disregard them. That's why I stopped arguing about it before. I was just explaining to you when you asked about me. You like Springer; I prefer Altuve. It doesn't matter. The difference is that only one of us goes out of our way to bash the other player constantly. Point out one thing I have said about Altuve that is not true. Pointing out weaknesses as well as strengths is not bashing. That he cost us the ALCS.
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Post by Saint on May 7, 2021 14:00:13 GMT -6
There's no point in finding more numbers. I've shown them to you before and you disregard them. That's why I stopped arguing about it before. I was just explaining to you when you asked about me. You like Springer; I prefer Altuve. It doesn't matter. The difference is that only one of us goes out of our way to bash the other player constantly. Point out one thing I have said about Altuve that is not true. Pointing out weaknesses as well as strengths is not bashing. It's not about pointing out weaknesses. All players have weaknesses. You downright ridicule him and then are more critical of him than players that are substantially worse. You choose to support obviously lesser quality players and then go out of your way to point out every flaw Altuve shows. He could go 3-4 with 3 RBI and a SB and you'll call out the fact that he didn't turn a double play. That's bashing.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 7, 2021 14:12:44 GMT -6
Point out one thing I have said about Altuve that is not true. Pointing out weaknesses as well as strengths is not bashing. It's not about pointing out weaknesses. All players have weaknesses. You downright ridicule him and then are more critical of him than players that are substantially worse. You choose to support obviously lesser quality players and then go out of your way to point out every flaw Altuve shows. He could go 3-4 with 3 RBI and a SB and you'll call out the fact that he didn't turn a double play. That's bashing. See: Jork Also See: McTwitchy
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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 14:19:43 GMT -6
Point out one thing I have said about Altuve that is not true. Pointing out weaknesses as well as strengths is not bashing. That he cost us the ALCS. Those throws cost us eight runs and two games. In my opinion, he cost us the ALCS. I don't blame it on McCullers because homers he gave up may not have happened if not for Jose's errors. a different approach may have been used if the bases were empty. Jose put the runners on base ahead of the home runs. He was responsible for the losses, not McCullers.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 14:25:05 GMT -6
Point out one thing I have said about Altuve that is not true. Pointing out weaknesses as well as strengths is not bashing. It's not about pointing out weaknesses. All players have weaknesses. You downright ridicule him and then are more critical of him than players that are substantially worse. You choose to support obviously lesser quality players and then go out of your way to point out every flaw Altuve shows. He could go 3-4 with 3 RBI and a SB and you'll call out the fact that he didn't turn a double play. That's bashing. And the stuff you dig up to try to cover up his weaknesses amounts to brown-nosing and slobbering all over him. I support players that other people bash. We have some here who pen every loss on the pitchers no matter how pitiful the offense or defense happened to be. If Jose goes 0-4 with 2 K's, you mention any hard hit ball and ignore the K's, many of which ended an inning with RISP. In spite of what you want to believe, Jose Altuve is not the whole team. He is a significant part of it but that is all. Right now, he is not the best and most consistent hitter we have. I will give him credit for not being picked off first base so far this season and that is an improvement for him. I give him credit when he does well.....you just ignore it and whine when I point out his weaknesses.
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Post by abregmanfan on May 7, 2021 14:26:28 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 14:34:39 GMT -6
It's not about pointing out weaknesses. All players have weaknesses. You downright ridicule him and then are more critical of him than players that are substantially worse. You choose to support obviously lesser quality players and then go out of your way to point out every flaw Altuve shows. He could go 3-4 with 3 RBI and a SB and you'll call out the fact that he didn't turn a double play. That's bashing. See: Jork Also See: McTwitchy you labeled "jork" as the worst player in baseball while it was a fact that he is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game. At the present time, he is hitting .269 with 4 home runs and 14 runs batted in and 18 K's while Straw is hitting .222 with 0 home runs, 11 runs batted in and 23 K's. I rest my case..Jork would be better for us than Straw has been to this point. McTwitchy has had mostly good starts this season, including the job he did yesterday against the Skanks. He is 2-1 with a 3.58 ERA and has struck out 38 in 32 innings. His walk total is high at 18, Most managers would like to have "McTwitchy" in the rotation.
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Post by Saint on May 7, 2021 14:49:45 GMT -6
It's not about pointing out weaknesses. All players have weaknesses. You downright ridicule him and then are more critical of him than players that are substantially worse. You choose to support obviously lesser quality players and then go out of your way to point out every flaw Altuve shows. He could go 3-4 with 3 RBI and a SB and you'll call out the fact that he didn't turn a double play. That's bashing. And the stuff you dig up to try to cover up his weaknesses amounts to brown-nosing and slobbering all over him. I support players that other people bash. We have some here who pen every loss on the pitchers no matter how pitiful the offense or defense happened to be. If Jose goes 0-4 with 2 K's, you mention any hard hit ball and ignore the K's, many of which ended an inning with RISP. In spite of what you want to believe, Jose Altuve is not the whole team. He is a significant part of it but that is all. Right now, he is not the best and most consistent hitter we have. I will give him credit for not being picked off first base so far this season and that is an improvement for him. I give him credit when he does well.....you just ignore it and whine when I point out his weaknesses. You just don't get it.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 15:27:28 GMT -6
And the stuff you dig up to try to cover up his weaknesses amounts to brown-nosing and slobbering all over him. I support players that other people bash. We have some here who pen every loss on the pitchers no matter how pitiful the offense or defense happened to be. If Jose goes 0-4 with 2 K's, you mention any hard hit ball and ignore the K's, many of which ended an inning with RISP. In spite of what you want to believe, Jose Altuve is not the whole team. He is a significant part of it but that is all. Right now, he is not the best and most consistent hitter we have. I will give him credit for not being picked off first base so far this season and that is an improvement for him. I give him credit when he does well.....you just ignore it and whine when I point out his weaknesses. You just don't get it. oh......so because I don't agree with your biased explanation, I "don't get it".......Riggggghhhhtttt!! YOU don't get it because you refuse to admit Jose has any weaknesses and get pissed when I point them out. I hope he "hitty de ball" good on this homestand and gets his batting average respectable again.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 7, 2021 15:34:28 GMT -6
See: Jork Also See: McTwitchy you labeled "jork" as the worst player in baseball while it was a fact that he is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game. At the present time, he is hitting .269 with 4 home runs and 14 runs batted in and 18 K's while Straw is hitting .222 with 0 home runs, 11 runs batted in and 23 K's. I rest my case..Jork would be better for us than Straw has been to this point. McTwitchy has had mostly good starts this season, including the job he did yesterday against the Skanks. He is 2-1 with a 3.58 ERA and has struck out 38 in 32 innings. His walk total is high at 18, Most managers would like to have "McTwitchy" in the rotation. So even Jake is out producing Springer this season?
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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 15:36:36 GMT -6
you labeled "jork" as the worst player in baseball while it was a fact that he is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game. At the present time, he is hitting .269 with 4 home runs and 14 runs batted in and 18 K's while Straw is hitting .222 with 0 home runs, 11 runs batted in and 23 K's. I rest my case..Jork would be better for us than Straw has been to this point. McTwitchy has had mostly good starts this season, including the job he did yesterday against the Skanks. He is 2-1 with a 3.58 ERA and has struck out 38 in 32 innings. His walk total is high at 18, Most managers would like to have "McTwitchy" in the rotation. So even Jake is out producing Springer this season? Yes, he is. Jake is playing and George is on the IL. Also, at the present time, Jake is also out producing Altuve.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 7, 2021 15:44:44 GMT -6
So even Jake is out producing Springer this season? Yes, he is. Jake is playing and George is on the IL. Also, at the present time, Jake is also out producing Altuve. So it goes: Jake, Altuve, Tyler White, Straw, ...and then to the likes of Max Stasis, Tony Kemp and Springer
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 7, 2021 16:35:53 GMT -6
See: Jork Also See: McTwitchy you labeled "jork" as the worst player in baseball while it was a fact that he is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game. At the present time, he is hitting .269 with 4 home runs and 14 runs batted in and 18 K's while Straw is hitting .222 with 0 home runs, 11 runs batted in and 23 K's. I rest my case..Jork would be better for us than Straw has been to this point. McTwitchy has had mostly good starts this season, including the job he did yesterday against the Skanks. He is 2-1 with a 3.58 ERA and has struck out 38 in 32 innings. His walk total is high at 18, Most managers would like to have "McTwitchy" in the rotation. Look at you busting out the metrics. Gonna name you Saint Jr.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 7, 2021 16:48:05 GMT -6
you labeled "jork" as the worst player in baseball while it was a fact that he is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game. At the present time, he is hitting .269 with 4 home runs and 14 runs batted in and 18 K's while Straw is hitting .222 with 0 home runs, 11 runs batted in and 23 K's. I rest my case..Jork would be better for us than Straw has been to this point. McTwitchy has had mostly good starts this season, including the job he did yesterday against the Skanks. He is 2-1 with a 3.58 ERA and has struck out 38 in 32 innings. His walk total is high at 18, Most managers would like to have "McTwitchy" in the rotation. Look at you busting out the metrics. Gonna name you Saint Jr. LOL No metrics for me.........I just googled the numbers for the players. I didn't dig into WAR, elevation angles, or if any of them take a dump before or during the games. I am sure Saint has all of that info on Altuve. LOL
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Post by abregmanfan on May 7, 2021 18:49:51 GMT -6
Yes, he is. Jake is playing and George is on the IL. Also, at the present time, Jake is also out producing Altuve. So it goes: Jake, Altuve, Tyler White, Straw, ...and then to the likes of Max Stasis, Tony Kemp and Springer Springer is a has been.
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