marshall
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Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood...
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Post by marshall on Dec 10, 2019 4:52:52 GMT -6
No way should we offer him that money or over a three year deal. I just can't imagine anybody WANTING to live in NYC or LA. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 10, 2019 8:08:21 GMT -6
OMG guys! Wheeler signed for $118 million!
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 10, 2019 9:30:07 GMT -6
OMG guys! Wheeler signed for $118 million! That's kind of old news. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 10:25:11 GMT -6
Did you hear what was on the table last year for him? Josh James, Armentaros, Valdez and Straw. That wasnt much at all. But I think there new GM wants someone else. WHITLEY This OS should be about finding bargain deals, and seeing if we can get a couple of them for about a two or three-year stay at a good price. i realize we can't afford higher priced FA's,but, I hope we don't go back to the "thrifty" days of Drayton McLane who wanted bargain basement players and then expected to win. We need to be economical without spending money on players who "might" help. We need a strong starter for the rotation and a quality arm for the pen and extending Springer has to be the most important need to address. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2019 10:31:38 GMT -6
This OS should be about finding bargain deals, and seeing if we can get a couple of them for about a two or three-year stay at a good price. i realize we can't afford higher priced FA's,but, I hope we don't go back to the "thrifty" days of Drayton McLane who wanted bargain basement players and then expected to win. We need to be economical without spending money on players who "might" help. We need a strong starter for the rotation and a quality arm for the pen and extending Springer has to be the most important need to address. I like you and most everyone else want Springer extended. My concern is that it has not been done after several attempts. My guess is that Springer wants out and that there is a predetermined time line established whereby if he does not sign then they will trade him to free up money to get the missing parts. It would be a bad move and would send a wrong message to the team and to the fans. They will be paying a luxury tax for the next two years and with that in mind they need to keep a team on the field that can win another championship. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 10:41:04 GMT -6
i realize we can't afford higher priced FA's,but, I hope we don't go back to the "thrifty" days of Drayton McLane who wanted bargain basement players and then expected to win. We need to be economical without spending money on players who "might" help. We need a strong starter for the rotation and a quality arm for the pen and extending Springer has to be the most important need to address. I like you and most everyone else want Springer extended. My concern is that it has not been done after several attempts. My guess is that Springer wants out and that there is a predetermined time line established whereby if he does not sign then they will trade him to free up money to get the missing parts. It would be a bad move and would send a wrong message to the team and to the fans. They will be paying a luxury tax for the next two years and with that in mind they need to keep a team on the field that can win another championship. I too, am lamenting at the delays in extending GS. Not only is he the heart and soul of this ball club, but he is also among the most clutch post season players of this era. The longer we wait, the harder it will be to keep him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2019 10:53:17 GMT -6
If Springer leaves, then a minor rebuilding will begin. Reddick is a goner, and I don’t see Brantley staying. I don’t see the Astros forking over bigger money to an aging first baseman. I’m not sure what the plans are with Correa. They need to start planning as if Springer might be leaving in the next offseason.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 10:55:24 GMT -6
I like you and most everyone else want Springer extended. My concern is that it has not been done after several attempts. My guess is that Springer wants out and that there is a predetermined time line established whereby if he does not sign then they will trade him to free up money to get the missing parts. It would be a bad move and would send a wrong message to the team and to the fans. They will be paying a luxury tax for the next two years and with that in mind they need to keep a team on the field that can win another championship. I too, am lamenting at the delays in extending GS. Not only is he the heart and soul of this ball club, but he is also among the most clutch post season players of this era. The longer we wait, the harder it will be to keep him. We have nobody capable of coming close to replacing Springer......Losing him could send us back to mediocrity. Many tbink Altuve is the heart and soul of the Astros, but, he is not. Wel did OK while Altive was on the DL.....Our offense struggled when George as out. A sincere effort must be made to extend him......5 years/$140 million.......He is worth more than Altuve but won't get it. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 10, 2019 11:03:19 GMT -6
i realize we can't afford higher priced FA's,but, I hope we don't go back to the "thrifty" days of Drayton McLane who wanted bargain basement players and then expected to win. We need to be economical without spending money on players who "might" help. We need a strong starter for the rotation and a quality arm for the pen and extending Springer has to be the most important need to address. I like you and most everyone else want Springer extended. My concern is that it has not been done after several attempts. My guess is that Springer wants out and that there is a predetermined time line established whereby if he does not sign then they will trade him to free up money to get the missing parts. It would be a bad move and would send a wrong message to the team and to the fans. They will be paying a luxury tax for the next two years and with that in mind they need to keep a team on the field that can win another championship. I don't think Springer 'wants out'. I just think he wants to get paid commensurate with his value on the FA market with a lot of years guaranteed. If the Astros do want to trade him, they'll have to make that happen this winter. But I don't see that happening. JMO. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 12:03:44 GMT -6
I like you and most everyone else want Springer extended. My concern is that it has not been done after several attempts. My guess is that Springer wants out and that there is a predetermined time line established whereby if he does not sign then they will trade him to free up money to get the missing parts. It would be a bad move and would send a wrong message to the team and to the fans. They will be paying a luxury tax for the next two years and with that in mind they need to keep a team on the field that can win another championship. I don't think Springer 'wants out'. I just think he wants to get paid commensurate with his value on the FA market with a lot of years guaranteed. If the Astros do want to trade him, they'll have to make that happen this winter. But I don't see that happening. JMO. If they don't do something this winter, they can probably kiss him goodbye. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 10, 2019 12:07:48 GMT -6
OMG guys! Wheeler signed for $118 million! That's kind of old news. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Kyle Gibson signed with the Rangers!!! |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 13:04:22 GMT -6
That's kind of old news. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Kyle Gibson signed with the Rangers!!! No offense but,you are a little behind on that one,. too.......that was last week. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 10, 2019 13:22:09 GMT -6
Kyle Gibson signed with the Rangers!!! No offense but,you are a little behind on that one,. too.......that was last week. I think that was intentional. You might want to have your sarcasm detector re-calibrated ... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2019 13:23:33 GMT -6
Rangers have talked to the Astros about a Reddick and a Player/prospect for Mazara swap.
Astros have been lurking around SPs who they can trade for. Also Astros could be looking another Bat? I would think thats tye Cubs Catcher
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2019 13:25:50 GMT -6
Rangers have talked to the Astros about a Reddick and a Player/prospect for Mazara swap. Astros have been lurking around SPs who they can trade for. Also Astros could be looking another Bat? I would think thats tye Cubs Catcher No one wants Reddick |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2019 14:12:10 GMT -6
Rangers have talked to the Astros about a Reddick and a Player/prospect for Mazara swap. Astros have been lurking around SPs who they can trade for. Also Astros could be looking another Bat? I would think thats tye Cubs Catcher The Rangers have been trying to get someone to take Mazara for a while now. He must have issues outside the lines. I think if they could get a mlb reliever plus a stop gap for the position then they would do it. Reddick is the stop gap but the problem is we need the relievers. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2019 14:15:45 GMT -6
I like you and most everyone else want Springer extended. My concern is that it has not been done after several attempts. My guess is that Springer wants out and that there is a predetermined time line established whereby if he does not sign then they will trade him to free up money to get the missing parts. It would be a bad move and would send a wrong message to the team and to the fans. They will be paying a luxury tax for the next two years and with that in mind they need to keep a team on the field that can win another championship. I don't think Springer 'wants out'. I just think he wants to get paid commensurate with his value on the FA market with a lot of years guaranteed. If the Astros do want to trade him, they'll have to make that happen this winter. But I don't see that happening. JMO. It is hard to say definitively what is going on. Normally if the Astros set their sights on someone they sign, with the current owners, money is seldom the issue. They know how important Springer is and how clutch he is. But no deal gets done. Makes you wonder why |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 14:34:04 GMT -6
No offense but,you are a little behind on that one,. too.......that was last week. I think that was intentional. You might want to have your sarcasm detector re-calibrated ... I was not talking to you, bitch......you might want to consider minding your own damn business for a change........f*ck off. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 14:35:01 GMT -6
Rangers have talked to the Astros about a Reddick and a Player/prospect for Mazara swap. Astros have been lurking around SPs who they can trade for. Also Astros could be looking another Bat? I would think thats tye Cubs Catcher The Rangers have been trying to get someone to take Mazara for a while now. He must have issues outside the lines. I think if they could get a mlb reliever plus a stop gap for the position then they would do it. Reddick is the stop gap but the problem is we need the relievers. We don't need a Ranger castoff. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 14:36:53 GMT -6
Rangers have talked to the Astros about a Reddick and a Player/prospect for Mazara swap. Astros have been lurking around SPs who they can trade for. Also Astros could be looking another Bat? I would think thats tye Cubs Catcher Sign Chirinos and spend money on or trade for pitching. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 10, 2019 14:41:42 GMT -6
I think that was intentional. You might want to have your sarcasm detector re-calibrated ... I was not talking to you, bitch......you might want to consider minding your own damn business for a change........f*ck off. Knock that shit off or get the f*** out. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 14:52:22 GMT -6
I was not talking to you, bitch......you might want to consider minding your own damn business for a change........f*ck off. Knock that shit off or get the feck out. Maybe you need to send the same message to the guy from Detroit. I am sick of bis crap and you should be. All he does is go around stirring up shit,. See for yourself. I will be more than glad to cut it out but J am not taking that crap from that clown. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 10, 2019 14:55:10 GMT -6
"I was not talking to you, bitch....."
I'm not taking sides, but that, out of the blue, was hilarious. Omg classic.
Moving on... Does anybody here think we should be looking at Cole for some of these ridiculous $245+ million contracts? Good lord. The guy is really good, but he only plays in 20% of the games at best. 245 for 7 years is basically $1 million per start for 7 seasons. Even if he pitches as well as he did last year, and the team wins 80% of his starts...they'd be paying him, essentially, $1.25 million per victory.
Or look at it like this, say he has averages 200 innings per season over those 7 seasons (unlikely), that's $175K per inning pitched.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2019 14:56:58 GMT -6
Fish may have intreast in Reddick. But will not give up top prospects or mid level prospects
Early thoughts could be a Reddick spot. Maybe Adam Conley straight up??
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 14:59:45 GMT -6
"I was not talking to you, bitch....." I'm not taking sides, but that, out of the blue, was hilarious. Omg classic. Moving on... Does anybody here think we should be looking at Cole for some of these ridiculous $245+ million contracts? Good lord. The guy is really good, but he only plays in 20% of the games at best. 245 for 7 years is basically $1 million per start for 7 seasons. Even if he pitches as well as he did last year, and the team wins 80% of his starts...they'd be paying him, essentially, $1.25 million per victory. Or look at it like this, say he has averages 200 innings per season over those 7 seasons (unlikely), that's $175K per inning pitched. Cole will get $40 million a year and we can't and won't give it to him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 15:02:02 GMT -6
Fish may have intreast in Reddick. But will not give up top prospects or mid level prospects Early thoughts could be a Reddick spot. Maybe Adam Conley straight up?? Why would we want a pitcher with an ERA over 6.5 and a WAR of -1.11 and a WHIP of 1.73?? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 10, 2019 15:04:19 GMT -6
"I was not talking to you, bitch....." I'm not taking sides, but that, out of the blue, was hilarious. Omg classic. Moving on... Does anybody here think we should be looking at Cole for some of these ridiculous $245+ million contracts? Good lord. The guy is really good, but he only plays in 20% of the games at best. 245 for 7 years is basically $1 million per start for 7 seasons. Even if he pitches as well as he did last year, and the team wins 80% of his starts...they'd be paying him, essentially, $1.25 million per victory. Or look at it like this, say he has averages 200 innings per season over those 7 seasons (unlikely), that's $175K per inning pitched. Not one single player in the history of the game is worth that. Hell, all of them cumulatively aren't worth it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 15:11:42 GMT -6
"I was not talking to you, bitch....." I'm not taking sides, but that, out of the blue, was hilarious. Omg classic. Moving on... Does anybody here think we should be looking at Cole for some of these ridiculous $245+ million contracts? Good lord. The guy is really good, but he only plays in 20% of the games at best. 245 for 7 years is basically $1 million per start for 7 seasons. Even if he pitches as well as he did last year, and the team wins 80% of his starts...they'd be paying him, essentially, $1.25 million per victory. Or look at it like this, say he has averages 200 innings per season over those 7 seasons (unlikely), that's $175K per inning pitched. Not one single player in the history of the game is worth that. Hell, all of them cumulatively aren't worth it. agreed.........NLB says two other teams other than the Yankees and Angels are going after Cole.......My opinion is that we have a bidding war engineered by Boras to drive the price up. Cole will sign with the Yankees for at 6-7 years at $40 miilion....or more.........a year. It's ridiculous and snows why we need a salary cap or something to put a stop to these kind of deals........Fans end up footing the bill . Rangers are supposedly going heavy after Rendon........I wish Crane would bite the bullet and sign Rendon and bring him home. Then deal Correa for young pitching prospects. We don't need to let the Ranges use that new ball park to their advantage if we can help it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2019 15:26:16 GMT -6
Orioles deal Bundy to Angels for prospects.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 10, 2019 16:33:14 GMT -6
Orioles deal Bundy to Angels for prospects. I didn't know the Angels had any prospects outside of Addell. |
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