|
Post by blcoach8 on Oct 24, 2019 15:01:51 GMT -6
|
|
|
Post by batman007 on Oct 24, 2019 16:22:57 GMT -6
SJWs win again! Congrats on the victory
|
|
|
Post by abregmanfan on Oct 26, 2019 11:31:48 GMT -6
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2019 11:59:31 GMT -6
A big lot of bullshit.......they fired the guy and that should be enough.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2019 12:48:41 GMT -6
A big lot of bullshit.......they fired the guy and that should be enough. Totally agreed. I think they’re watching the Astros more now because they had so much egg on their faces with the Gurriel/Darvish thing.
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Oct 26, 2019 13:21:33 GMT -6
A big lot of bullshit.......they fired the guy and that should be enough. Totally agreed. I think they’re watching the Astros more now because they had so much egg on their faces with the Gurriel/Darvish thing. Suspending Yuli was a damn joke, too. It seems like when we make the WS, some shit crops up to be a distraction.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2019 17:04:48 GMT -6
Totally agreed. I think they’re watching the Astros more now because they had so much egg on their faces with the Gurriel/Darvish thing. Suspending Yuli was a damn joke, too. It seems like when we make the WS, some shit crops up to be a distraction. That was different because the Astros made no action against Yuli, but they actually fired Taubman.
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Oct 26, 2019 17:14:52 GMT -6
If they win the WS, the Astros FO won't give a shit. Nor should they.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2019 18:05:26 GMT -6
If they win the WS, the Astros FO won't give a shit. Nor should they. Amen.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 23:00:12 GMT -6
Suspending Yuli was a damn joke, too. It seems like when we make the WS, some shit crops up to be a distraction. That was different because the Astros made no action against Yuli, but they actually fired Taubman. Politically correct motivated move. On paper the right thing to do. But, I can almost guarantee that the drunk kid was baited into that rant. He had no other plausible reason to do randomly say anything like what he did. IF I were GM, I would get the facts (1) Make a statement, and bring out that reporter's baiting tactic, and (2) Ban all the reporters who propigated this bull shit. F the SJW slimeballs.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 26, 2019 23:08:36 GMT -6
That was different because the Astros made no action against Yuli, but they actually fired Taubman. Politically correct motivated move. On paper the right thing to do. But, I can almost guarantee that the drunk kid was baited into that rant. He had no other plausible reason to do randomly say anything like what he did. IF I were GM, I would get the facts (1) Make a statement, and bring out that out the reporter's baiting tactics, and (2) Ban all the reporters who propigated this bull shit. F the SJW slimeballs. F them both.
|
|
koolade2
Veteran
15K Thief
#WWG1WGA
Posts: 4,340
Likes: 505
|
Post by koolade2 on Oct 27, 2019 8:02:14 GMT -6
I have one thing to say I don't care if it said in bad taste. WTH happened to Free Speech in America when you get fired because someone little feelings were hurt.
Tomorrow it could be you because someone didn't like what you said in the Lunch Room
|
|
|
Post by thomasj13 on Oct 27, 2019 10:15:37 GMT -6
I have one thing to say I don't care if it said in bad taste. WTH happened to Free Speech in America when you get fired because someone little feelings were hurt. Tomorrow it could be you because someone didn't like what you said in the Lunch Room He is not going to jail, but his freedom of speech cost him his job....
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 27, 2019 12:25:15 GMT -6
I have one thing to say I don't care if it said in bad taste. WTH happened to Free Speech in America when you get fired because someone little feelings were hurt. Tomorrow it could be you because someone didn't like what you said in the Lunch Room He is not going to jail, but his freedom of speech cost him his job.... As it should.
|
|
|
Post by batman007 on Oct 27, 2019 13:14:08 GMT -6
Can someone explain how saying a phrase of, “I’m glad we got “x” player” get someone fired? I’m not seeing anything malicious about that.
|
|
koolade2
Veteran
15K Thief
#WWG1WGA
Posts: 4,340
Likes: 505
|
Post by koolade2 on Oct 27, 2019 13:24:09 GMT -6
He is not going to jail, but his freedom of speech cost him his job.... As it should. Why should he be fired, Reprimanded Maybe. But cost him his Lively Hood to support his family without any violence. I see in here most have adhered to the Leftist Thought I don't like it so you should be fired. Its no different than the Leftist threatening to have you fired because you voted for Trump. Better yet you didn't call them a Shim instead of Him or non binary. Just Remember support this kind of stuff will eventually Make SURE you can never say anything in Public unless the PTB approve. Ask those Folks over in Hong Kong being beaten and Murdered for Freedom of Speech
|
|
koolade2
Veteran
15K Thief
#WWG1WGA
Posts: 4,340
Likes: 505
|
Post by koolade2 on Oct 27, 2019 13:26:37 GMT -6
^^^ Is this next maybe we should throw him in jail just because he pissed a Female Leftist with some stupid remark. Not the much different than being fired and no lively hood
|
|
|
Post by cajunstros on Oct 27, 2019 13:27:48 GMT -6
My guess is the the context was very different than just the plain text.
And, yes, free speech is alive and well and also had no basis for his firing. He was an Astros employee, wearing Astros gear and in the Astros locker room. He was representing the organization and not just himself. I have 0 problem with his firing. It was crass and pointless. I teach my young kids to always ask yourself this question before you speak or act, “is it worth it?”.
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 27, 2019 14:15:57 GMT -6
I have one thing to say I don't care if it said in bad taste. WTH happened to Free Speech in America when you get fired because someone little feelings were hurt. Tomorrow it could be you because someone didn't like what you said in the Lunch Room You don't have free speech at work. Also, the Free Speech in the US Constitution only protects you against the government, not against Jeff Luhnow.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 27, 2019 14:58:15 GMT -6
Can someone explain how saying a phrase of, “I’m glad we got “x” player” get someone fired? I’m not seeing anything malicious about that. Because he was a belligerent drunk while representing his company.
|
|
|
Post by batman007 on Oct 27, 2019 15:00:05 GMT -6
Being drunk isn’t what got him fired.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 27, 2019 15:01:25 GMT -6
I have one thing to say I don't care if it said in bad taste. WTH happened to Free Speech in America when you get fired because someone little feelings were hurt. Tomorrow it could be you because someone didn't like what you said in the Lunch Room You don't have free speech at work. Also, the Free Speech in the US Constitution only protects you against the government, not against Jeff Luhnow. This right here. Let’s all not delve into politics over a dude acting like a pissed off frat boy.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 27, 2019 15:04:06 GMT -6
Being drunk isn’t what got him fired. I thought I read somewhere that he was. Either way, if you don’t behave appropriately in the eyes of your superiors, they can fire you. Calling your coworker “sweet cheeks” is harmless too, but that’ll get you a trip to HR and likely termination.
|
|
marshall
Veteran
21st Century Luddite
Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood...
Posts: 4,358
Likes: 446
|
Post by marshall on Oct 27, 2019 15:20:16 GMT -6
I have one thing to say I don't care if it said in bad taste. WTH happened to Free Speech in America when you get fired because someone little feelings were hurt. Tomorrow it could be you because someone didn't like what you said in the Lunch Room Unless you're in Congress and actually commit crimes, you get fired.
|
|
|
Post by batman007 on Oct 27, 2019 15:28:15 GMT -6
Being drunk isn’t what got him fired. I thought I read somewhere that he was. Either way, if you don’t behave appropriately in the eyes of your superiors, they can fire you. Calling your coworker “sweet cheeks” is harmless too, but that’ll get you a trip to HR and likely termination. Calling your coworker sweet cheeks is considered sexual harassment. Telling your coworker you’re glad your team got a certain player is considered........................?
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Oct 27, 2019 15:29:17 GMT -6
I thought I read somewhere that he was. Either way, if you don’t behave appropriately in the eyes of your superiors, they can fire you. Calling your coworker “sweet cheeks” is harmless too, but that’ll get you a trip to HR and likely termination. Calling your coworker sweet cheeks is considered sexual harassment. Telling your coworker you’re glad your team got a certain player is considered........................? Toxic.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Oct 27, 2019 18:03:24 GMT -6
I thought I read somewhere that he was. Either way, if you don’t behave appropriately in the eyes of your superiors, they can fire you. Calling your coworker “sweet cheeks” is harmless too, but that’ll get you a trip to HR and likely termination. Calling your coworker sweet cheeks is considered sexual harassment. Telling your coworker you’re glad your team got a certain player is considered........................? So, if you’re Jim Crane, you see nothing wrong with an employee flexing on some anti-domestic violence activist with f-bombs while showing support for a man connected (unfairly or not) to a domestic violence charge in front of a group of journalists ready to smear your business to the media?
|
|
|
Post by blcoach8 on Oct 27, 2019 22:52:30 GMT -6
My main gripe with this whole thing is the damn female reporters had no business in the locker room so they should not have heard a thing. When these women show up in there, every player should immediately strip naked and give them a nice,long look so they can have something fresh to report.
|
|
|
Post by batman007 on Oct 27, 2019 22:54:38 GMT -6
Calling your coworker sweet cheeks is considered sexual harassment. Telling your coworker you’re glad your team got a certain player is considered........................? So, if you’re Jim Crane, you see nothing wrong with an employee flexing on some anti-domestic violence activist with f-bombs while showing support for a man connected (unfairly or not) to a domestic violence charge in front of a group of journalists ready to smear your business to the media? You cited two different instances, one of which is most likely in the Code of Conduct for that position while the other is most likely not. He should be reprimanded according to their disciplinary policy for the one instance. The other should have no relevance at all. Also, you haven't defined what telling your coworker that you support a certain player is considered. If you can't define exactly what it is, how can you reprimand someone for it?
|
|
talshill
Arbitration Eligible
Vini, vici, pavori.
Posts: 2,015
Likes: 1,115
|
Post by talshill on Oct 28, 2019 6:54:00 GMT -6
While he's at work his speech is subject to employer standards, and to some degree afterwards. He was a representative of the Houston Astros, and as such he should have kept his speech and behavior professional. He didn't and paid the price. That's all.
|
|