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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 9, 2019 12:16:25 GMT -6
To get a feel for what's likely to happen, a starting point would be to look at the attrition through free agency. The following is a list of players from the 2019 team who are now free agents: Joe Smith Gerrit Cole Hector Rondon Collin McHugh Robinson Chirinos Wade Miley Will Harris Martin Maldonado With the exception of two catchers, they're all pitchers. No other positions are affected. imho, the Astros will add: ONE starting pitcher. (maybe) Almost certainly not an ace. At most, a league-average veteran. Verlander and Greinke at the top of the rotation, Urquidy seems to have earned a spot. That leaves two roles to fill. Pick one from McCullers/Peacock/Valdez/Martin/Sanchez/Armenteros/James/Whitley. Maybe two. I'm not certain on a SP purchase. ONE reliever. Some serious money might be spent here. The exit of Harris leaves some pretty big shoes to fill. While the Astros could depend on someone from within the organization to step up, I think they'll pony up for a reliever off the FA market. And I think Harris will be the first guy they target. ONE catcher. It's time for Stubbs to stand up and be counted. But I doubt the Astros will field two catchers who are still in rookie status. Targets aren't limited to either of the exiting FAs. I'm on the fence as to whether we'll see three FAs being purchased or just two. The coin-flip came up heads, so I'll go with three.
(Note: reclamation projects like a player signing to a minors contract with a guarantee only if he makes it to the bigs, don't count. And players who sign for near league-minimum with performance bonuses don't count either.)
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 9, 2019 12:40:24 GMT -6
To get a feel for what's likely to happen, a starting point would be to look at the attrition through free agency. The following is a list of players from the 2019 team who are now free agents: Joe Smith Gerrit Cole Hector Rondon Collin McHugh Robinson Chirinos Wade Miley Will Harris Martin Maldonado With the exception of two catchers, they're all pitchers. No other positions are affected. imho, the Astros will add: ONE starting pitcher. (maybe) Almost certainly not an ace. At most, a league-average veteran. Verlander and Greinke at the top of the rotation, Urquidy seems to have earned a spot. That leaves two roles to fill. Pick one from McCullers/Peacock/Valdez/Martin/Sanchez/Armenteros/James/Whitley. Maybe two. I'm not certain on a SP purchase. ONE reliever. Some serious money might be spent here. The exit of Harris leaves some pretty big shoes to fill. While the Astros could depend on someone from within the organization to step up, I think they'll pony up for a reliever off the FA market. And I think Harris will be the first guy they target. ONE catcher. It's time for Stubbs to stand up and be counted. But I doubt the Astros will field two catchers who are still in rookie status. Targets aren't limited to either of the exiting FAs. I'm on the fence as to whether we'll see three FAs being purchased or just two. The coin-flip came up heads, so I'll go with three.
(Note: reclamation projects like a player signing to a minors contract with a guarantee only if he makes it to the bigs, don't count. And players who sign for near league-minimum with performance bonuses don't count either.)
My semi-realistic wish to sign 3 of 5: Wheeler, Chirinos, Avisail Garcia, Drew Pomeranz (LH), Dellin Betances |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 9, 2019 13:18:35 GMT -6
My semi-realistic wish to sign 3 of 5: Wheeler, Chirinos, Avisail Garcia, Drew Pomeranz (LH), Dellin Betances Adding a position player would block emerging talent from the minors. (Tucker, Straw, etc). That's not a good way to maintain long-term competitiveness at a sustainable team salary. These guys need some ML experience so the Astros don't have only rookies when the entire OF goes FA in 2021. I won't say signing Mini-Miggy would be off the table, but I really don't think that's where money should be spent right now unless the Astros can blow a few holes in their outfield roster without taking a bath when trading away someone like Reddick. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 9, 2019 15:33:25 GMT -6
To get a feel for what's likely to happen, a starting point would be to look at the attrition through free agency. The following is a list of players from the 2019 team who are now free agents: Joe Smith Gerrit Cole Hector Rondon Collin McHugh Robinson Chirinos Wade Miley Will Harris Martin Maldonado With the exception of two catchers, they're all pitchers. No other positions are affected. imho, the Astros will add: ONE starting pitcher. (maybe) Almost certainly not an ace. At most, a league-average veteran. Verlander and Greinke at the top of the rotation, Urquidy seems to have earned a spot. That leaves two roles to fill. Pick one from McCullers/Peacock/Valdez/Martin/Sanchez/Armenteros/James/Whitley. Maybe two. I'm not certain on a SP purchase. ONE reliever. Some serious money might be spent here. The exit of Harris leaves some pretty big shoes to fill. While the Astros could depend on someone from within the organization to step up, I think they'll pony up for a reliever off the FA market. And I think Harris will be the first guy they target. ONE catcher. It's time for Stubbs to stand up and be counted. But I doubt the Astros will field two catchers who are still in rookie status. Targets aren't limited to either of the exiting FAs. I'm on the fence as to whether we'll see three FAs being purchased or just two. The coin-flip came up heads, so I'll go with three.
(Note: reclamation projects like a player signing to a minors contract with a guarantee only if he makes it to the bigs, don't count. And players who sign for near league-minimum with performance bonuses don't count either.)
My semi-realistic wish to sign 3 of 5: Wheeler, Chirinos, Avisail Garcia, Drew Pomeranz (LH), Dellin Betances I want four signed but don't expect all of them..........Wheeler, Chirinos, Harris, and Will Smith.....I have never been impressed with Pomeranz and Betances seems to be injured all of the time. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 9, 2019 15:49:40 GMT -6
I’d like Wheeler, Smith/Pomeranz, and Grandal.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 9, 2019 16:17:36 GMT -6
My semi-realistic wish to sign 3 of 5: Wheeler, Chirinos, Avisail Garcia, Drew Pomeranz (LH), Dellin Betances Adding a position player would block emerging talent from the minors. (Tucker, Straw, etc). That's not a good way to maintain long-term competitiveness at a sustainable team salary. These guys need some ML experience so the Astros don't have only rookies when the entire OF goes FA in 2021. I won't say signing Mini-Miggy would be off the table, but I really don't think that's where money should be spent right now unless the Astros can blow a few holes in their outfield roster without taking a bath when trading away someone like Reddick. As far as the OF goes, there is not much to block coming up from the minors. The Astros will bath if the they trade away Reddick...I think they will get 60 cents on the dollar for him, thus of his $13M to be paid next year, $5.2M will still count against the Astros. But still $7.8M saved can go elsewhere...and we get to finally see Tucker starting.... I see Straw as more as super utility guy and 4th OF, so I don't see a 2 year deal/with 3rd option for Garcia blocking him. I see a Garcia signing a contingency plan for not being able to re-sign Yuli and Brantley in 2021, which I don't see happening. Garcia should be able to split time starting at 1B/OF. If Straw is a super utility guy, then the Astros will not need to offer Diaz arbitration, thus saving money there as well. Now the Garcia signing is also contingent upon the Astros trading away Correa....I think that is one of the most pivotal/paramount moves the Astros can do this off-season....If other teams are sold on Correa's ceiling, then his 2 years of team control should have value....And hopefully the Astros can get both current pitching that is needed and prospects. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 9, 2019 16:35:06 GMT -6
Adding a position player would block emerging talent from the minors. (Tucker, Straw, etc). That's not a good way to maintain long-term competitiveness at a sustainable team salary. These guys need some ML experience so the Astros don't have only rookies when the entire OF goes FA in 2021. I won't say signing Mini-Miggy would be off the table, but I really don't think that's where money should be spent right now unless the Astros can blow a few holes in their outfield roster without taking a bath when trading away someone like Reddick. As far as the OF goes, there is not much to block coming up from the minors. The Astros will bath if the they trade away Reddick...I think they will get 60 cents on the dollar for him, thus of his $13M to be paid next year, $5.2M will still count against the Astros. But still $7.8M saved can go elsewhere...and we get to finally see Tucker starting.... I see Straw as more as super utility guy and 4th OF, so I don't see a 2 year deal/with 3rd option for Garcia blocking him. I see a Garcia signing a contingency plan for not being able to re-sign Yuli and Brantley in 2021, which I don't see happening. Garcia should be able to split time starting at 1B/OF. If Straw is a super utility guy, then the Astros will not need to offer Diaz arbitration, thus saving money there as well. Now the Garcia signing is also contingent upon the Astros trading away Correa....I think that is one of the most pivotal/paramount moves the Astros can do this off-season....If other teams are sold on Correa's ceiling, then his 2 years of team control should have value....And hopefully the Astros can get both current pitching that is needed and prospects. I hope they trade Correa, but, I don't expect it. They might piss off too many hispanic fans.......If it were up to me, I would ship his ass ASAP and get rid of the drama and problems he and hoochie mama have created. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 9, 2019 17:27:59 GMT -6
Adding a position player would block emerging talent from the minors. (Tucker, Straw, etc). That's not a good way to maintain long-term competitiveness at a sustainable team salary. These guys need some ML experience so the Astros don't have only rookies when the entire OF goes FA in 2021. I won't say signing Mini-Miggy would be off the table, but I really don't think that's where money should be spent right now unless the Astros can blow a few holes in their outfield roster without taking a bath when trading away someone like Reddick. As far as the OF goes, there is not much to block coming up from the minors. The Astros will bath if the they trade away Reddick...I think they will get 60 cents on the dollar for him, thus of his $13M to be paid next year, $5.2M will still count against the Astros. But still $7.8M saved can go elsewhere...and we get to finally see Tucker starting.... I see Straw as more as super utility guy and 4th OF, so I don't see a 2 year deal/with 3rd option for Garcia blocking him. I see a Garcia signing a contingency plan for not being able to re-sign Yuli and Brantley in 2021, which I don't see happening. Garcia should be able to split time starting at 1B/OF. If Straw is a super utility guy, then the Astros will not need to offer Diaz arbitration, thus saving money there as well. Now the Garcia signing is also contingent upon the Astros trading away Correa....I think that is one of the most pivotal/paramount moves the Astros can do this off-season....If other teams are sold on Correa's ceiling, then his 2 years of team control should have value....And hopefully the Astros can get both current pitching that is needed and prospects. It would SUCK to have to listen to Robert Ford or Todd Kalas over-pronounce Av-uh-SIGH-Ale's name all the time. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 9, 2019 17:29:02 GMT -6
As far as the OF goes, there is not much to block coming up from the minors. The Astros will bath if the they trade away Reddick...I think they will get 60 cents on the dollar for him, thus of his $13M to be paid next year, $5.2M will still count against the Astros. But still $7.8M saved can go elsewhere...and we get to finally see Tucker starting.... I see Straw as more as super utility guy and 4th OF, so I don't see a 2 year deal/with 3rd option for Garcia blocking him. I see a Garcia signing a contingency plan for not being able to re-sign Yuli and Brantley in 2021, which I don't see happening. Garcia should be able to split time starting at 1B/OF. If Straw is a super utility guy, then the Astros will not need to offer Diaz arbitration, thus saving money there as well. Now the Garcia signing is also contingent upon the Astros trading away Correa....I think that is one of the most pivotal/paramount moves the Astros can do this off-season....If other teams are sold on Correa's ceiling, then his 2 years of team control should have value....And hopefully the Astros can get both current pitching that is needed and prospects. I hope they trade Correa, but, I don't expect it. They might piss off too many hispanic fans.......If it were up to me, I would ship his ass ASAP and get rid of the drama and problems he and hoochie mama have created. I hope they trade Correa so that you'll shut the f*** up about "hoochie mama" |
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Post by batman007 on Nov 10, 2019 18:27:55 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 10, 2019 18:31:32 GMT -6
Horry sheet. You found Corch.
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Post by churchill on Nov 11, 2019 1:37:15 GMT -6
It would SUCK to have to listen to Robert Ford or Todd Kalas over-pronounce Av-uh-SIGH-Ale's name all the time. Robert Ford shot Jesse James in the back... Sorry |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 11, 2019 10:25:49 GMT -6
It would SUCK to have to listen to Robert Ford or Todd Kalas over-pronounce Av-uh-SIGH-Ale's name all the time. Speaking of offense to the ears ... The Tigers announcers used to call him Av-uh-say-EEL. What's worse, at the same time we also had Ah-KNEE-ball Sanchez. (This is the part where y'all say: You poor bastard!) |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 11, 2019 10:27:16 GMT -6
ugh, you poor bastard.
At least it wasn't ROOF Ned Oh Door.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 11, 2019 10:28:13 GMT -6
Or Sparks saying Goo Tee Err Is.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 11, 2019 11:15:38 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF.
That way you can move Correa.
Yuli to 3rd Bregman to SS.
Then look at SP if you move Carlos Correa. Maybe to the Mets. Try and snag one of there guys Lugo or Snydergaard
And some prospects.
Then look at where you are.
If you can get Chirinos thats fine. If not go try and see if you can find a package for Wilson Contreras.
Wheeler would be a great snag. Buy low guy in FA
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 11, 2019 11:40:07 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF. That way you can move Correa. Yuli to 3rd Bregman to SS. Then look at SP if you move Carlos Correa. Maybe to the Mets. Try and snag one of there guys Lugo or Snydergaard And some prospects. Then look at where you are. If you can get Chirinos thats fine. If not go try and see if you can find a package for Wilson Contreras. Wheeler would be a great snag. Buy low guy in FA Have you actually seen Yuli at 3B? Hard pass. Also, there’s no buying low with Wheeler. So many teams would want him. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 11, 2019 11:57:36 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF. He's poor on defense. Henry Mancini might be better. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 11, 2019 12:02:31 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF. That way you can move Correa. Yuli to 3rd Bregman to SS. Then look at SP if you move Carlos Correa. Maybe to the Mets. Try and snag one of there guys Lugo or Snydergaard And some prospects. Then look at where you are. If you can get Chirinos thats fine. If not go try and see if you can find a package for Wilson Contreras. Wheeler would be a great snag. Buy low guy in FA If Correa goes anywhere he will go to the Dodgers for starting pitching prospects. They have 3 guys who got their feet wet last year and did fairly well so we can help them out by taking two of them off of their hands |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 11, 2019 12:05:11 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF. That way you can move Correa. Yuli to 3rd Bregman to SS. Then look at SP if you move Carlos Correa. Maybe to the Mets. Try and snag one of there guys Lugo or Snydergaard And some prospects. Then look at where you are. If you can get Chirinos thats fine. If not go try and see if you can find a package for Wilson Contreras. Wheeler would be a great snag. Buy low guy in FA If you mention trading for Trey Mancini one more time, I hope somebody burns down your she-shed. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 11, 2019 12:08:13 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF. That way you can move Correa. Yuli to 3rd Bregman to SS. Then look at SP if you move Carlos Correa. Maybe to the Mets. Try and snag one of there guys Lugo or Snydergaard And some prospects. Then look at where you are. If you can get Chirinos thats fine. If not go try and see if you can find a package for Wilson Contreras. Wheeler would be a great snag. Buy low guy in FA If Correa goes anywhere he will go to the Dodgers for starting pitching prospects. They have 3 guys who got their feet wet last year and did fairly well so we can help them out by taking two of them off of their hands Dodgers are not in need of Correa, they have Seagar SS at 3B and Turner at 3B |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 11, 2019 12:11:26 GMT -6
I would go for gold trade for trey Mancini to play 1B and some OF. That way you can move Correa. Yuli to 3rd Bregman to SS. Then look at SP if you move Carlos Correa. Maybe to the Mets. Try and snag one of there guys Lugo or Snydergaard And some prospects. Then look at where you are. If you can get Chirinos thats fine. If not go try and see if you can find a package for Wilson Contreras. Wheeler would be a great snag. Buy low guy in FA If you mention trading for Trey Mancini one more time, I hope somebody burns down your she-shed. ***** best post you've ever made. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 11, 2019 12:12:09 GMT -6
If Correa goes anywhere he will go to the Dodgers for starting pitching prospects. They have 3 guys who got their feet wet last year and did fairly well so we can help them out by taking two of them off of their hands Dodgers are not in need of Correa, they have Seagar SS at 3B and Turner at 3B Who approved for them to put 2 men at 3B? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 11, 2019 13:12:19 GMT -6
Dodgers are not in need of Correa, they have Seagar SS at 3B and Turner at 3B Who approved for them to put 2 men at 3B? I would say I made that mistake intentionally to see if anyone was paying attention, but I am not that creative. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 11, 2019 13:32:20 GMT -6
Who approved for them to put 2 men at 3B? I would say I made that mistake intentionally to see if anyone was paying attention, but I am not that creative. I think it's an actual improvement. You usually leave words OUT rather than adding extras. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 11, 2019 13:42:19 GMT -6
If Correa goes anywhere he will go to the Dodgers for starting pitching prospects. They have 3 guys who got their feet wet last year and did fairly well so we can help them out by taking two of them off of their hands Dodgers are not in need of Correa, they have Seagar SS at 3B and Turner at 3B For some odd reason, reports say they want a SS. I can’t figure out why unless they’ve soured on either Seager or Turner. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 11, 2019 13:45:15 GMT -6
Dodgers are not in need of Correa, they have Seagar SS at 3B and Turner at 3B For some odd reason, reports say they want a SS. I can’t figure out why unless they’ve soured on either Seager or Turner. If that is true, then by all means, Correa to the Dodgers! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 11, 2019 13:50:38 GMT -6
For some odd reason, reports say they want a SS. I can’t figure out why unless they’ve soured on either Seager or Turner. If that is true, then by all means, Correa to the Dodgers! We need to hide the fact that we want to trade him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 11, 2019 13:51:59 GMT -6
I voted “two”. I think they’ll get a catcher and either a reliever or starting pitching.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 11, 2019 13:54:53 GMT -6
If you mention trading for Trey Mancini one more time, I hope somebody burns down your she-shed. ***** best post you've ever made. No,the ones I made setting you straight about Jake are the best ones. I don't mind seeing him traded. I see LOTS of posts worse than most of mine such as all the silly off-topic garbage that pops up. |
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