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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 11:13:21 GMT -6
Okay, so let me see if I have this right: 1. You're mad at Keuchel for apologizing for his role in the cheating the team did in parts of 2017 and 2018. 2. You said: " Apparently, none of the info helped him as he consistently got hammered early in games and cost us any chance of winning." So, in 2017 and 2018, here are his numbers: 26-16 3.39 ERA 350 IP So averaging 175 IP and a 13-8 record with a far above-average ERA was costing them a chance at winning? And apologizing for being a part of cheating is bad? You have an interesting way of looking at things.... And you always think over-rated players are outstanding. I never said he was outstanding. But that 3.39 ERA (or 122 ERA+) over 2017-2018 was approximately 22% better than average. I'll never complain about that production over 175 IP a season. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 11:56:59 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 12:07:01 GMT -6
I hope not..........I am tired of seeing Bryant made out to be some great family man when he raped a woman and paid her off not to file charge. The media is in overkill over Bryant, My post was in jest.... Mine wasn't........what happened with Bryant and the others was tragic. But the media seems to be forgetting that Bryant and his daughter were not alone on the helicopter. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 12:41:10 GMT -6
I did like this response from Woodfork in the 2011 interview:
“Everyone tries to lump people into different categories and I think now people are looking for balance. There’s an analytical portion to it, there’s a scouting portion to it and without that balance you’re not going to be successful.”
I do think the Astros have gone overboard with the analytics. I think Luhnow made a bad... and callous... move when he dismissed a significant number of scouts at the end of the 2017 season.
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 12:46:32 GMT -6
I did like this response from Woodfork in the 2011 interview: “Everyone tries to lump people into different categories and I think now people are looking for balance. There’s an analytical portion to it, there’s a scouting portion to it and without that balance you’re not going to be successful.” I do think the Astros have gone overboard with the analytics. I think Luhnow made a bad... and callous... move when he dismissed a significant number of scouts at the end of the 2017 season. That's my issue. For as good as he was getting the numbers and stuff together, it's pretty apparent that the FO culture suffered from it. That balance has to be there. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 14:40:19 GMT -6
I did like this response from Woodfork in the 2011 interview: “Everyone tries to lump people into different categories and I think now people are looking for balance. There’s an analytical portion to it, there’s a scouting portion to it and without that balance you’re not going to be successful.” I do think the Astros have gone overboard with the analytics. I think Luhnow made a bad... and callous... move when he dismissed a significant number of scouts at the end of the 2017 season. That's my issue. For as good as he was getting the numbers and stuff together, it's pretty apparent that the FO culture suffered from it. That balance has to be there. The unrest in the front office was common knowlege and that was the fault of Luhnow. Firing those scouts was a bad decision. Relying too much on analytics when it comes to draft picks makes no sense. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 28, 2020 15:45:17 GMT -6
I hope Dusty can get his ring!
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 15:49:10 GMT -6
I hope Dusty can get his ring! don't bet on it. He will have half of the pitching staff on the IL by the All Star break. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 15:55:04 GMT -6
I did like this response from Woodfork in the 2011 interview: “Everyone tries to lump people into different categories and I think now people are looking for balance. There’s an analytical portion to it, there’s a scouting portion to it and without that balance you’re not going to be successful.” I do think the Astros have gone overboard with the analytics. I think Luhnow made a bad... and callous... move when he dismissed a significant number of scouts at the end of the 2017 season. This is pretty much how most of us felt. Analytics are fine and significant to winning baseball, but old fashioned scouting shouldn’t be thrown by the wayside. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 16:17:30 GMT -6
I hope Dusty can get his ring! I just read that Dusty Baker is bi-lingual (english and spanish) and he is a former Marine. Both of those attributes will be helpful. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 16:22:46 GMT -6
I did like this response from Woodfork in the 2011 interview: “Everyone tries to lump people into different categories and I think now people are looking for balance. There’s an analytical portion to it, there’s a scouting portion to it and without that balance you’re not going to be successful.” I do think the Astros have gone overboard with the analytics. I think Luhnow made a bad... and callous... move when he dismissed a significant number of scouts at the end of the 2017 season. This is pretty much how most of us felt. Analytics are fine and significant to winning baseball, but old fashioned scouting shouldn’t be thrown by the wayside. I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:24:14 GMT -6
This is pretty much how most of us felt. Analytics are fine and significant to winning baseball, but old fashioned scouting shouldn’t be thrown by the wayside. I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. Low IQ |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 16:27:22 GMT -6
I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. Low IQ I think Jose’s enthusiasm and desire to make something happen get the best of him sometimes and he just has a brain fart. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 16:32:14 GMT -6
I think hiring Baker might clinch Evans as GM. Do you think hiring if Dusty Baker was an emotional decision, brought on by the tragic death of Kobe Bryant? LMFAO, you racist. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 16:34:04 GMT -6
I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. Low IQ That stuff is stupid, though. Everyone is just too much of an Altuve fanboy to admit it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:35:44 GMT -6
Do you think hiring if Dusty Baker was an emotional decision, brought on by the tragic death of Kobe Bryant? LMFAO, you racist. What? I started watching that Kiefer Sutherland series in tribute to Kobe. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 16:50:20 GMT -6
This is pretty much how most of us felt. Analytics are fine and significant to winning baseball, but old fashioned scouting shouldn’t be thrown by the wayside. I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. I hope they free up the guys a little more on going to 2B. Stealing 3B is hardly ever useful unless it is just a very weak catcher or slow pitcher. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 16:50:45 GMT -6
I’m glad Crane hired a manager who can speak Spanish. As far as I can ascertain, Hinch could not. This whole cheating thing may have been prevented if he had just said, “ALTO!!” Cora probably just laughed at him and ignored him when he said, “NO! No hittee the can! You no stop hittee the can, I breakee the TV!!
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Post by bannedfan on Jan 28, 2020 16:51:26 GMT -6
Dusty Baker😮😮😮
No thanks.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:57:47 GMT -6
I’m glad Crane hired a manager who can speak Spanish. As far as I can ascertain, Hinch could not. This whole cheating thing may have been prevented if he had just said, “ALTO!!” Cora probably just laughed at him and ignored him when he said, “NO! No hittee the can! You no stop hittee the can, I breakee the TV!! If someone could just have had known how to have said No in Spanish, this all could have been averted. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 16:58:49 GMT -6
This is pretty much how most of us felt. Analytics are fine and significant to winning baseball, but old fashioned scouting shouldn’t be thrown by the wayside. I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. Watch out, you will be accused of bashing Jose because he's hispanic. LOL I agree with turning Straw loose and reining in Jose. I wish Straw could work out as our leadoff hitter with Springer moving down in the order. We have lots of people who either can't see that Jose is not very intelligent or they refuse to admit it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:58:59 GMT -6
That was my initial thinking...but I get it now, Baker was the right choice....and it wasn't for winning sake. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 17:02:20 GMT -6
That was my initial thinking...but I get it now, Baker was the right choice....and it wasn't for winning sake. I doubt if he was hired with the intent to keep him around very long. He will be a stop gap until we find the right man. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 17:02:42 GMT -6
I’m glad Crane hired a manager who can speak Spanish. As far as I can ascertain, Hinch could not. This whole cheating thing may have been prevented if he had just said, “ALTO!!” Cora probably just laughed at him and ignored him when he said, “NO! No hittee the can! You no stop hittee the can, I breakee the TV!! If someone could just have had known how to have said No in Spanish, this all could have been averted. Si |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 17:02:43 GMT -6
I hope Baker is allowed to move away from the ridiculous shifts and that he will take a more old-school approach to the batting order. Hopefully he will set Straw free on the base paths and rein in Altuve on the bases somewhat. I have seen enough of Jose getting thrown out trying to steal third with less than two outs to do me a lifetime. Watch out, you will be accused of bashing Jose because he's hispanic. LOL I agree with turning Straw loose and reining in Jose. I wish Straw could work out as our leadoff hitter with Springer moving down in the order. Straw Brantley Bregman Altuve Springer Alvarez Gurriel Tucker Toro Maldonado If the above happens, then the Astros hopefully made some good trades. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 17:04:01 GMT -6
If someone could just have had known how to have said No in Spanish, this all could have been averted. Si Que hora es? Ocho. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 17:11:35 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 28, 2020 17:15:00 GMT -6
You've got a bad attitude lately, son. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 28, 2020 17:16:11 GMT -6
I’m glad Crane hired a manager who can speak Spanish. As far as I can ascertain, Hinch could not. This whole cheating thing may have been prevented if he had just said, “ALTO!!” Cora probably just laughed at him and ignored him when he said, “NO! No hittee the can! You no stop hittee the can, I breakee the TV!! Try to say that five times and fast. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 17:19:53 GMT -6
Watch out, you will be accused of bashing Jose because he's hispanic. LOL I agree with turning Straw loose and reining in Jose. I wish Straw could work out as our leadoff hitter with Springer moving down in the order. Straw Brantley Bregman Altuve Springer Alvarez Gurriel Tucker Toro Maldonado If the above happens, then the Astros hopefully made some good trades. I don' think I'd put Jose in the cleanup spot. |
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