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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 6:01:17 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 8:27:08 GMT -6
They can’t choose Dusty Baker if they want discipline (and healthy pitchers).
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 8:29:52 GMT -6
Showalter would be okay, but I mean he’s also known for keeping one of the best pitchers in baseball in the bullpen and promptly losing. He’s a former MOY, though.
My choice would be Bochy. He’s a legend among managers, and I don’t think he’d take any shit. Bregman needs a slap to the head once in a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 8:30:58 GMT -6
I don't think Dusty Baker is a legit option in Crane's plans. If he is, I don't know if I can watch this team next season.
At this point I want them to just role with Espeda next season as the interim manager and if it works great!
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 8:37:34 GMT -6
It won't be any of those old guys.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 14, 2020 8:59:55 GMT -6
Espada, Ausmus or Biggio ...I would think one of those three, and in that order of likelihood.
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Post by Saint on Jan 14, 2020 9:32:28 GMT -6
I don't know if Biggio would have any interest, but it would certainly make a statement that the team is trying to get get back to doing things the right way. (Based on Biggio's good reputation.)
I have no idea if he would be a good manager or not.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 9:41:00 GMT -6
Damn, son. How have you remained a fan for so long with the way you throw out ultimatums so frequently? "If they run out of Coke at Walmart, I'm gone! F this team!" |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 9:42:29 GMT -6
I don't think Dusty Baker is a legit option in Crane's plans. If he is, I don't know if I can watch this team next season. At this point I want them to just role with Espeda next season as the interim manager and if it works great! I don't see them hiring any of those old school managers. They're still going to be focused on modern baseball and analytics. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 14, 2020 9:43:56 GMT -6
Someone give us a summary of the article, because we can't access it at work d/t their adblocker ban.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 10:02:42 GMT -6
Damn, son. How have you remained a fan for so long with the way you throw out ultimatums so frequently? "If they run out of Coke at Walmart, I'm gone! F this team!" Extraordinary Time.... Extraordinary Measures........ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 10:12:18 GMT -6
I don't think Dusty Baker is a legit option in Crane's plans. If he is, I don't know if I can watch this team next season. At this point I want them to just role with Espeda next season as the interim manager and if it works great! I don't see them hiring any of those old school managers. They're still going to be focused on modern baseball and analytics. That is a good call out. Crane will probably just move forward with Espeda until he finds a coach who embraces analytics. |
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Post by m240 on Jan 14, 2020 12:34:11 GMT -6
I don't see them hiring any of those old school managers. They're still going to be focused on modern baseball and analytics. That is a good call out. Crane will probably just move forward with Espeda until he finds a coach who embraces analytics. The analytics in my mind is the most important thing. I wonder if Luhnow memorialized his fully developed decision making matrix with the analytics as part of the team's intellectual property. Remember he started developing this while with the Cardinals and then moved to us and the process evolved. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 14, 2020 12:37:33 GMT -6
Baker lost every clubhouse he managed. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 14, 2020 12:43:02 GMT -6
Someone give us a summary of the article, because we can't access it at work d/t their adblocker ban. The Houston Astros' firing of manager A.J. Hinch created a new job vacancy, one that is currently complicated – to say the least – but could be appealing to a number of potential suitors. However, finding a new manager isn't going to be that easy. Since GM Jeff Luhnow was also fired, there's a power vacuum beneath owner Jim Crane and at this point it's unclear if the organization will just be looking for a stop-gap until anew regime is in place, or someone they envision want for the long haul long-term. Crane said Monday they'll be looking inside and outside the organization for replacements and hopes to have someone in place by spring training, which begins in less than a month. The Astros would have to get permission to speak with coaches who are currently employed elsewhere – a tall task considering the scorn the organization is facing. That said, here are some of the best options on the market: – Joe Espada (currently Astros bench coach): The 44-year-old is considered a rising star and had multiple interviews for a managerial job this winter. Espada didn't join the organization until after the 2017 season – so his hands are technically clean – but Crane (and the league) may feel more comfortable with an outside hire, particularly since MLB's report was such an indictment on the club's culture. – Dusty Baker: Hiring a baseball man like Baker would give the organization some desperately-needed credibility right now. Baker, 70, is one of the game's most accomplished managers and though his teams have repeatedly come up short in the postseason, his experience dealing with big egos might be exactly what the Astros need. Dusty Baker last managed in 2017. Dusty Baker last managed in 2017. (Photo: Jasen Vinlove, USA TODAY Sports) – Buck Showalter: Another skipper with plenty of experience, Showalter could be a stabilizing force at this junction for Houston. He's just one season removed from his last stint and was said to be a candidate for a few jobs this offseason. – John Gibbons: The former Blue Jays manager is eager to get back in the game and is one of the few free agents with managerial experience. He's a real players' manager and oversaw some very good Toronto teams. Gibbons was raised and resides in San Antonio so the local roots are there and may be more willing to take the nearby job on a whim than some other candidates. – Bruce Bochy: This one is unlikely considering Bochy is barely three months into "retired life," but he hasn't officially ruled out a return to the bench at some point. “I just hope I made the right decision,” Bochy told USA TODAY Sports in September. “I don’t want to be sitting around next summer wishing I was still managing. I want to be sure this is right.” |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 15:18:57 GMT -6
Espada, Ausmus or Biggio ...I would think one of those three, and in that order of likelihood. Someone please tell me what’s so great about Ausmus that he should be given a third chance to fail? |
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Post by batman007 on Jan 14, 2020 20:58:58 GMT -6
Cora just became available  |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 14, 2020 23:20:00 GMT -6
Just do what the Angels did and use Ausmus for a year and then fire him. Try to lure Hinch back after that.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 14, 2020 23:45:36 GMT -6
Espada, Ausmus or Biggio ...I would think one of those three, and in that order of likelihood. Crane needs to do anything possible to get Biggio to accept the job.......Ausmus would be my #2. Espada doesn't have the name recognition we need right now. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 14, 2020 23:46:21 GMT -6
Just do what the Angels did and use Ausmus for a year and then fire him. Try to lure Hinch back after that. Hinch is history in Houston and he should be. |
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Post by churchill on Jan 15, 2020 1:29:53 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 15, 2020 8:56:29 GMT -6
Just do what the Angels did and use Ausmus for a year and then fire him. Try to lure Hinch back after that. Hinch is history in Houston and he should be. I was kidding. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 15, 2020 10:43:41 GMT -6
Espada, Ausmus or Biggio ...I would think one of those three, and in that order of likelihood. Crane needs to do anything possible to get Biggio to accept the job.......Ausmus would be my #2. Espada doesn't have the name recognition we need right now. The problem with hiring an icon like 5 or 7 is the danger of something like this scandal happening while they're in charge and then you lose all of the history built into their iconography. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 11:19:22 GMT -6
I love them both, but I think they're probably too dumb to be in that position without more experience.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 15, 2020 12:29:21 GMT -6
I love them both, but I think they're probably too dumb to be in that position without more experience. Damn, son. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 15, 2020 12:30:21 GMT -6
Someone brought up on Facebook the idea of Paul Molitor for Astros manager. I wouldn’t be much opposed to that.
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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 12:34:53 GMT -6
I love them both, but I think they're probably too dumb to be in that position without more experience. Damn, son. I'm just being honest. Neither strike me as thinkers.... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 15, 2020 12:40:55 GMT -6
I'm just being honest. Neither strike me as thinkers.... Bob Brenly won with the D-Backs, and he never struck me as being another Aristotle. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 15, 2020 13:00:39 GMT -6
I'm just being honest. Neither strike me as thinkers.... Bob Brenly won with the D-Backs, and he never struck me as being another Aristotle. Analytics weren't much of a thing back then. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 15, 2020 13:52:59 GMT -6
I love them both, but I think they're probably too dumb to be in that position without more experience. Damn, son. 7: I mean, it is what it is. Sometimes you just have to tip your cap. 5: Tell that to Yuri |
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