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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 6, 2020 13:06:39 GMT -6
Place your bets now.
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Post by Saint on Feb 6, 2020 13:10:14 GMT -6
I like that we won't see pitchers for just one or two batters consistently, but I don't like that it has to be a rule.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 6, 2020 13:17:57 GMT -6
I like that we won't see pitchers for just one or two batters consistently, but I don't like that it has to be a rule. I think the rule really comes in to play in the postseason, but I also don’t get why the rosters have to be so big during that time. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 6, 2020 13:19:03 GMT -6
It sucks........Mandred needs to leave the game alone. These absurd rule changes are a joke.....Managers should not be limiited to how many time they change pitchers or when they are allowed to make the changes. Relievers have to face ONE batter as it is and it should remain that way. We don't need a computerized strike zone, either. The number of mound visits a catcher can make is bullshit as are all of these damn speed up rules Manfred comes up with, This clown is beginning to make Bud Selig look intelligent.
I vote IT SUCKS
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 6, 2020 17:41:30 GMT -6
If you know me, you should know how I voted.... |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 6, 2020 18:16:24 GMT -6
The rule was set up for TB. If you are throwing in the big's you should be able to handle the rule.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 7, 2020 7:46:58 GMT -6
If you know me, you should know how I voted.... I was counting on it. |
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Post by kj50tx on Feb 7, 2020 10:24:28 GMT -6
I am not crazy about this rule. It is taking a strategy arrow out of the manager’s quiver. I do however think it will drastically reduce the wear and tear on the pen. Major league pitchers get up and down many times throughout the game and often throw a full pen just warming up over and over in the course of the game...only to never enter. Doing this over the course of the year puts a lot of uncompetitive wear on their arms. We may see pens being a lot fresher later in the year because of this rule - A positive unexpected consequence.
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 7, 2020 16:00:57 GMT -6
The rule was set up for TB. If you are throwing in the big's you should be able to handle the rule. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 7, 2020 17:24:14 GMT -6
The rule was set up for TB. If you are throwing in the big's you should be able to handle the rule. That is a good question, I will have to ask the professor. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 7, 2020 17:27:36 GMT -6
The rule was set up for TB. If you are throwing in the big's you should be able to handle the rule. Apparently no. This from an article at mlb.com: “For the first time, a rule will be implemented that requires pitchers to face at least three batters or pitch to the conclusion of the half inning, excluding situations that involve injury or illness.” |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 7, 2020 17:33:43 GMT -6
My question is:
If a relief pitcher comes into a game with a three-ball no strike count on a batter and throws ball four to that batter; then pitches to the next batter; then throws ball one to the next batter, is he considered to have faced three batters if the manager chooses to pull him out of the game and bring in another relief pitcher with a 1-0 count on that third batter?
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 7, 2020 17:38:16 GMT -6
Does this mean you can't change pitchers with two outs and a lead in the 9th? Apparently no. This from an article at mlb.com: “For the first time, a rule will be implemented that requires pitchers to face at least three batters or pitch to the conclusion of the half inning, excluding situations that involve injury or illness.” So if Giles comes in and gives up a grand slam and a solo shot, his mental illness could excuse him after allowing 5 runs and facing less than the minimum
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 7, 2020 17:55:57 GMT -6
Is it just three batters or a whole inning?
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 7, 2020 18:05:28 GMT -6
Does this mean you can't change pitchers with two 0outs and a lead in the 9th? That is a good question, I will have to ask the professor. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 7, 2020 20:02:53 GMT -6
Does this mean you can't change pitchers with two outs and a lead in the 9th? Apparently no. This from an article at mlb.com: “For the first time, a rule will be implemented that requires pitchers to face at least three batters or pitch to the conclusion of the half inning, excluding situations that involve injury or illness.” thanks that would make sense. The big thing by the commish office is the multiple pitching moves, prolonging games. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 7, 2020 20:04:04 GMT -6
That is a good question, I will have to ask the professor. The dude is probably better looking than waastro. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 7, 2020 20:54:04 GMT -6
Is it just three batters or a whole inning? Three batters. My question is, “For purposes of complying with the rule, does the pitcher have to face 3 batters for the entire at-bat of each batter, or does he have to throw just one pitch to a batter in order to be considered to have “faced” the batter? Let’s say the leadoff batter doubles. The next batter up is a power-hitting right-handed hitter followed by a power-hitting left-handed batter who has trouble hitting lefties and he is followed by another right-handed batter. Rather than issuing a no-pitch intentional walk to the batter follows the leadoff hitter who doubled, could you have your pitcher throw three balls well of the plate and then call in your left-handed relief pitcher to throw ball four? Then your lefty relief pitcher pitches to the left-handed batter who has trouble hitting lefties. Then he throws one pitch well off the plate to the next batter for ball one and the manager pulls him and brings in a right-handed relief pitcher with the count at 1-0. |
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Post by churchill on Feb 8, 2020 8:45:58 GMT -6
The rule was set up for TB. If you are throwing in the big's you should be able to handle the rule. You could just walk the third man and then change pitchers. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 8, 2020 11:44:17 GMT -6
Does this mean you can't change pitchers with two outs and a lead in the 9th? You could just walk the third man and then change pitchers. Then the situation where you put the winning run into scoring position. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 8, 2020 14:03:58 GMT -6
If a pitcher only has to throw one pitch to a batter in order to be credited with facing that batter, managers should be able to work around the 3-batter rule.
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 8, 2020 19:42:38 GMT -6
If a pitcher only has to throw one pitch to a batter in order to be credited with facing that batter, managers should be able to work around the 3-batter rule. I really didn't look into the new rule. But as you stated one pitch, that leaves the word face a hitter which would be a way to work around it. |
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Post by marshall on Feb 12, 2020 9:01:59 GMT -6
It sucks........Mandred needs to leave the game alone. These absurd rule changes are a joke.....Managers should not be limiited to how many time they change pitchers or when they are allowed to make the changes. Relievers have to face ONE batter as it is and it should remain that way. We don't need a computerized strike zone, either. The number of mound visits a catcher can make is bullshit as are all of these damn speed up rules Manfred comes up with, This clown is beginning to make Bud Selig look intelligent. I vote IT SUCKS Once they introduced the lower mound, then the Designated Hitter, we were doomed to see manipulation of the rules for the purpose of favoring the "SPECIAL" teams. If Gibson played for the Yankees, the mound would never have been lowered. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 12, 2020 9:24:10 GMT -6
Baseball is turning in to slow pitch softball.
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Post by unionstation82 on Feb 12, 2020 10:00:59 GMT -6
Baseball is turning in to slow pitch softball. Precisely my problem with homerball. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 12, 2020 10:18:33 GMT -6
All sports change. I don't mind fairly minor rule changes now and then. I'm more annoyed by the new proposed playoff system. (Of course I don't like the current system with a one game playoff either.)
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Post by marshall on Feb 12, 2020 14:11:31 GMT -6
We must be the world's worst cheaters. Both of the seasons we were supposed to be cheating at home are when we had remarkable road records and marginal home records.
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 12, 2020 17:17:02 GMT -6
Baseball has played a very important part in my life. However, if they keep changing the rules I am prepared to walk away forever.
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Post by batman007 on Feb 12, 2020 17:45:23 GMT -6
All sports change. I don't mind fairly minor rule changes now and then. I'm more annoyed by the new proposed playoff system. (Of course I don't like the current system with a one game playoff either.) What's the new proposed playoff systeM? |
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Post by Saint on Feb 12, 2020 19:38:56 GMT -6
All sports change. I don't mind fairly minor rule changes now and then. I'm more annoyed by the new proposed playoff system. (Of course I don't like the current system with a one game playoff either.) What's the new proposed playoff systeM? Expansion to include two more teams from each league with a 3-game series. No more wild card game. #1 seed gets a bye and then picks their opponent. |
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