Collin McHugh Appreciation Thread

[Saint]

So with Collin signing with the Red Sox, thus ends his tenure with the Astros (at least for now).  Collin ended up with the following numbers as an Astro after he was a virtual nobody waiver claim from the Rockies:

58-35
3.63 ERA (110 ERA+)
1.219 WHIP
195 Games (110 Starts)

As a starter from 2014-2017 he averaged a record of 12-7 with a 152 IP per season, and then he had some dominant numbers as a reliever going 6-2 with a 1.99 ERA .912 WHIP in 2018.

He also had a pretty good postseason career with us at: 2-1 3.60 ERA .850 WHIP.

Good luck, Collin!  (Just not against us.)

[unionstation82]

I think that Collin McHugh was one of Luhnow’s greatest diamonds in the rough. I’ll never forget his performance in the ‘15 ALDS stepping up the way he did to put the Astros back on the map. Good luck to him.

[blcoach8]

Mar 5, 2020 9:54:15 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

I think that Collin McHugh was one of Luhnow’s greatest diamonds in the rough. I’ll never forget his performance in the ‘15 ALDS stepping up the way he did to put the Astros back on the map. Good luck to him.

And I think it was another Astros screw up if they didn't try to sign him.

[unionstation82]

Mar 5, 2020 10:04:30 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Mar 5, 2020 9:54:15 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

I think that Collin McHugh was one of Luhnow’s greatest diamonds in the rough. I’ll never forget his performance in the ‘15 ALDS stepping up the way he did to put the Astros back on the map. Good luck to him.

And I think it was another Astros screw up if they didn't try to sign him.

It could’ve been a disagreement in what role he should play.

[blcoach8]

Mar 5, 2020 10:05:37 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Mar 5, 2020 10:04:30 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

And I think it was another Astros screw up if they didn't try to sign him.

It could’ve been a disagreement in what role he should play.

agreed........Boston probably told him he'd get a chance to start.  We would have used him in the pen where he belongs.

[Saint]

I would think it probably came down to more money from incentives and/or a desire for a fresh slate after all the drama. I would have liked him back, but he's a pretty big question mark health-wise at this point.

[blcoach8]

Mar 5, 2020 11:59:14 GMT -6 Saint said:

I would think it probably came down to more money from incentives and/or a desire for a fresh slate after all the drama. I would have liked him back, but he's a pretty big question mark health-wise at this point.

I think we start the season with question marks in the pen and rotation. We could have used McHugh in the pen.  Our new GM has some work to do.

[Deleted]

Mar 5, 2020 12:18:03 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Mar 5, 2020 11:59:14 GMT -6 Saint said:

I would think it probably came down to more money from incentives and/or a desire for a fresh slate after all the drama. I would have liked him back, but he's a pretty big question mark health-wise at this point.

I think we start the season with question marks in the pen and rotation. We could have used McHugh in the pen.  Our new GM has some work to do.

I don't disagree. I just wonder if he wants to be somewhere where he can be a starter. 

I fully believe our 1-3 are set in stone and it's time to see how Framber and James do in the 4th and 5th spots - they have both been extremely good this spring thus far. We also have Pruitt and Whitley to try out if one of those two don't work out.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Mar 6, 2020 9:53:25 GMT -6 @inluhnowwetrust said:

Mar 5, 2020 12:18:03 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

I think we start the season with question marks in the pen and rotation. We could have used McHugh in the pen.  Our new GM has some work to do.

I don't disagree. I just wonder if he wants to be somewhere where he can be a starter. 

I fully believe our 1-3 are set in stone and it's time to see how Framber and James do in the 4th and 5th spots - they have both been extremely good this spring thus far. We also have Pruitt and Whitley to try out if one of those two don't work out.

And Urquity.

[Deleted]

Mar 6, 2020 9:58:23 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Mar 6, 2020 9:53:25 GMT -6 @inluhnowwetrust said:

I don't disagree. I just wonder if he wants to be somewhere where he can be a starter. 

I fully believe our 1-3 are set in stone and it's time to see how Framber and James do in the 4th and 5th spots - they have both been extremely good this spring thus far. We also have Pruitt and Whitley to try out if one of those two don't work out.

And Urquity.

Totally forgot about him. Now that you bring it up he will more than likely get the 4th spot and James/Framber/Pruitt will fight for the 5th spot.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

He's looked really good this spring.

[blcoach8]

Mar 6, 2020 10:06:46 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

He's looked really good this spring.

He should be the #3 or #4 in the rotation.  We have to find a #5.  I would like to see James win the job,

[olpapa]

Josh James has allowed just one hit and has not walked a batter in 5 IP. That is very encouraging.

[unionstation82]

Mar 6, 2020 11:49:08 GMT -6 olpapa said:

Josh James has allowed just one hit and has not walked a batter in 5 IP. That is very encouraging.

The no walks are the biggest surprise. Take note, Framber Valdez.

[sempersmom]

McHugh is an ass. Good riddance.

[unionstation82]

Mar 6, 2020 16:57:29 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

McHugh is an ass. Good riddance.

Wow, why say that?

[thomasj13]

Mar 6, 2020 16:58:23 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Mar 6, 2020 16:57:29 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

McHugh is an ass. Good riddance.

Wow, why say that?

What happens at Marfreless, stays at Marfreless.

[sempersmom]

Mar 6, 2020 16:58:23 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Mar 6, 2020 16:57:29 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

McHugh is an ass. Good riddance.

Wow, why say that?

He threw the team under the bus.

[blcoach8]

Mar 6, 2020 17:46:53 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

Mar 6, 2020 16:58:23 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Wow, why say that?

He threw the team under the bus.

I had forgotten that.,...this confirms why we should all be glad he's gone......Screw McHugh.


www.yahoo.com/sports/collin-mc-hugh-says-astros-pitchers-felt-powerless-to-stop-sign-stealing-i-dont-know-what-we-could-have-done-181449614.html

[Saint]

I didn't feel his response was too bad.

[sempersmom]

You should read the ESPN interview from today.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

I been tellin' y'all that he's got a case of the red ass because he was taken out of the starter role.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Collin McHugh only pitched in two postseason games during the Houston Astros' championship run in 2017, but the new Boston Red Sox right-hander was open in assessing the cheating scandal that has tarnished that title.

"You've got to be willing to stick up for what you believe in and what you believe is right and what you believe is wrong," McHugh said Friday. "And I think a lot of the guys on that team, including myself, are looking back now and wishing we had been as brave in the moment as we thought we were beforehand."


The Astros were found to have used a system that allowed players in real time to study video of catchers' signs and relay that information to batters at the plate via banging on trash cans. As a result, Houston had a significant edge against pitchers it faced at home.

"To put myself in the shoes of the guys who pitched against us in 2017 and to know that our hitters made that job that much harder that year -- it's hard to swallow. And I feel for them and I understand the anger and I understand when people are mad and pissed off," McHugh said. "I get it. I've been there. I know what it feels like to be out there and feel like a team has your signs. It's a lonely place."

McHugh, who was limited to just 12 regular-season starts in 2017 due to arm injuries, said he has been "thinking about [the scandal] a lot," but that he and his teammates simply failed to do the right thing.

"Sign stealing is universally, across-the-board bad for pitchers. And we know that. It made our jobs harder," McHugh said. "And we truly believed -- or we were made to believe -- that it was happening to us, too. And we don't know if that was true or not, but that's not justification for doing anything. Just because you think they're doing it is not justification for doing something you know is not right."



According to McHugh, the situation put pitchers on the 2017 team in a strange position. They were complicit in the cheating but, being on an American League team, the Astros' pitchers could never take advantage of the scheme in the batter's box.

"Looking back, I don't know what we could have done as pitchers," McHugh said. "It wasn't really our territory. Maybe we could've gotten together and somehow tried to stop it. Yeah, it was tough watching that. You feel for guys out there who are working their tails off, whether they're on your team or against you. I love seeing good pitching and it took some really good pitching that year to beat us."

The Red Sox, who are under MLB investigation for allegations of sign stealing during the 2018 season, added McHugh on Thursday on a one-year, $600,000 contract that could end up paying the 32-year-old as much as $4.25 million.

McHugh, who spent the past six seasons with Houston, is not expected to be on Boston's Opening Day roster as he continues to recover from a flexor injury.

[unionstation82]

The “I wish I did something” line is a bigger lie than the scandal itself. I wish these guys would spare us.

[thomasj13]

Mar 7, 2020 8:32:28 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

The “I wish I did something” line is a bigger lie than the scandal itself. I wish these guys would spare us.

He should donate his ring and playoff money to the Make A Wish foundation

[unionstation82]

Mar 7, 2020 8:56:36 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Mar 7, 2020 8:32:28 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

The “I wish I did something” line is a bigger lie than the scandal itself. I wish these guys would spare us.

He should donate his ring and playoff money to the Make A Wish foundation

I’m not surprised the Red Sox gave him a chance. We’re in this together.

[sempersmom]

Mar 7, 2020 11:20:41 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Mar 7, 2020 8:56:36 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

He should donate his ring and playoff money to the Make A Wish foundation

I’m not surprised the Red Sox gave him a chance. We’re in this together.

I’ll believe when I see it.

[batman007]

So exactly which one of McHugh's comments throws us under the bus?

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Mar 7, 2020 17:55:17 GMT -6 batman007 said:

So exactly which one of McHugh's comments throws us under the bus?

All of it, son.

[batman007]

I think you and I have a different definition of what "throwing someone under the bus" means. I see nothing in McHugh's comments that throws the Astros under the bus.

Mike Fiers on the other hand, his comments threw us under the bus.