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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 17:52:38 GMT -6
I don’t think I’ve ever seen 4 games by the Astros against a single opponent with 4 last at-bat losses in a season let alone a series.
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Post by Saint on Sept 6, 2020 17:54:16 GMT -6
The pitching will settle back down. If the offense keeps scoring runs things will balance out.
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 6, 2020 18:00:41 GMT -6
Not sure I have ever said a player needs to go, but Devo needs to go! Start with Biagini. I’m sure he was amazed by this series. Biagini>Devo
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 18:05:39 GMT -6
Start with Biagini. I’m sure he was amazed by this series. Biagini>Devo At least Devo had a good period. When was Biagini ever great?
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 6, 2020 18:05:59 GMT -6
Just reading that Devo is putting up his usual stellar performance. Saint must be proud. I will be proud if they ever realize he is useless and get him out of the organization.......and send Biagini with him. Another thing, we have NO BAT to bring off the bench to pinch hit.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 18:06:46 GMT -6
Just reading that Devo is putting up his usual stellar performance. Saint must be proud. I will be proud if they ever realize he is useless and get him out of the organization.......and send Biagini with him. Another thing, we have NO BAT to bring off the bench to pinch hit. I’m not worried about this offense. The relief is trash.
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 6, 2020 18:07:52 GMT -6
I will be proud if they ever realize he is useless and get him out of the organization.......and send Biagini with him. Another thing, we have NO BAT to bring off the bench to pinch hit. Im not worried about this offense. The relief is trash.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 6, 2020 19:40:10 GMT -6
I will be proud if they ever realize he is useless and get him out of the organization.......and send Biagini with him. Another thing, we have NO BAT to bring off the bench to pinch hit. Im not worried about this offense. The relief is trash. The relievers are worn out due to starters being knocked out early. McCullers ruined the pen for the entire weekend with that crap he pulled Friday. Most of our young relievers have done a pretty good job most of the time..........Paredes, Taylor, Scrubb. Raley. The trash has been Devenski, Sneed, and Biagini. Not having a healthy Peacock and Osuna has taken its toll. Bielak is beginning to look like he needs to be sent to the taxi squad.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 20:23:11 GMT -6
Im not worried about this offense. The relief is trash. The relievers are worn out due to starters being knocked out early. McCullers ruined the pen for the entire weekend with that crap he pulled Friday. Most of our young relievers have done a pretty good job most of the time..........Paredes, Taylor, Scrubb. Raley. The trash has been Devenski, Sneed, and Biagini. Not having a healthy Peacock and Osuna has taken its toll. Bielak is beginning to look like he needs to be sent to the taxi squad. Lord Strom needs to fix Bielak and soon. We can make excuses for most of the relievers, but the last three you mentioned are hopeless.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 6, 2020 20:54:56 GMT -6
The relievers are worn out due to starters being knocked out early. McCullers ruined the pen for the entire weekend with that crap he pulled Friday. Most of our young relievers have done a pretty good job most of the time..........Paredes, Taylor, Scrubb. Raley. The trash has been Devenski, Sneed, and Biagini. Not having a healthy Peacock and Osuna has taken its toll. Bielak is beginning to look like he needs to be sent to the taxi squad. Lord Strom needs to fix Bielak and soon. We can make excuses for most of the relievers, but the last three you mentioned are hopeless. The only pitchers Strom can fix are former CY candidates (Dallas, Cole) and players on the Autism Spectrum (Morton, Greinke).
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 21:08:26 GMT -6
Lord Strom needs to fix Bielak and soon. We can make excuses for most of the relievers, but the last three you mentioned are hopeless. The only pitchers Strom can fix are former CY candidates (Dallas, Cole) and players on the Autism Spectrum (Morton, Greinke). Giles came over as a promising stud closer prospect, then nothing. Osuna had success before coming here. Strom didn’t do anything with them.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 6, 2020 21:54:26 GMT -6
The relievers are worn out due to starters being knocked out early. McCullers ruined the pen for the entire weekend with that crap he pulled Friday. Most of our young relievers have done a pretty good job most of the time..........Paredes, Taylor, Scrubb. Raley. The trash has been Devenski, Sneed, and Biagini. Not having a healthy Peacock and Osuna has taken its toll. Bielak is beginning to look like he needs to be sent to the taxi squad. Lord Strom needs to fix Bielak and soon. We can make excuses for most of the relievers, but the last three you mentioned are hopeless. All three........Devenski, Sneed, and Biagini.......all need to go. Why waste time with them? I think I have seen Sneed pitch ONE good inning, the other two can't go to the mound without getting hammered. If Devenski's crap yesterday and today doesn't convince them to release him, nothing will.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 6, 2020 22:06:54 GMT -6
The only pitchers Strom can fix are former CY candidates (Dallas, Cole) and players on the Autism Spectrum (Morton, Greinke). Giles came over as a promising stud closer prospect, then nothing. Osuna had success before coming here. Strom didn’t do anything with them. You guys just kill me bashing Strom, who is one of the top pitching coaches in the game. Cole had the stuff when he came here, but, never came close to pitching as well in Pittsburgh as he did here. He was outstanding here, but, he isn't doing with the Yankees anywhere near what he did last year. Could be not having Strom around is the reason he hasn't been that good so far this year. Dallas was great until opposing hitters learned to lay off the stuff out of the zone. He came into the zone and it was BP. Morton was not very good before coming to Houston. After the idiots let Morton walk, he went to the Rays and finished right behind Verlander and Cole in the Cy Young vote. Then, we traded 4 good prospects for Greinke and depleted our farm system. If they had kept Morton, we would not have needed to trade for Greinke. Don't blame McCullers being a head case on Strom. Oh, I guess you forgot that Osuna led the AL in saves last season. No, Strom is over-rated. LOL I wonder who helped Valdez turn it around and become a solid starter. If we need a different coach, it's a hitting coach. Who the hell is doing that after Centron got suspended? Centron sucked so anyone would have been an improvement. We need to find a hitting coach who can ge these guys to take advantage of the shift and hit to the opposite side. And, PLEASE find one who can teach bunting.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 22:12:17 GMT -6
Giles came over as a promising stud closer prospect, then nothing. Osuna had success before coming here. Strom didn’t do anything with them. You guys just kill me bashing Strom, who is one of the top pitching coaches in the game. Cole had the stuff when he came here, but, never came close to pitching as well in Pittsburgh as he did here. He was outstanding here, but, he isn't doing with the Yankees anywhere near what he did last year. Could be not having Strom around is the reason he hasn't been that good so far this year. Dallas was great until opposing hitters learned to lay off the stuff out of the zone. He came into the zone and it was BP. Morton was not very good before coming to Houston. After the idiots let Morton walk, he went to the Rays and finished right behind Verlander and Cole in the Cy Young vote. Then, we traded 4 good prospects for Greinke and depleted our farm system. If they had kept Morton, we would not have needed to trade for Greinke. Don't blame McCullers being a head case on Strom. Oh, I guess you forgot that Osuna led the AL in saves last season. No, Strom is over-rated. LOL I wonder who helped Valdez turn it around and become a solid starter. If we need a different coach, it's a hitting coach. Who the hell is doing that after Centron got suspended? Centron sucked so anyone would have been an improvement. We need to find a hitting coach who can ge these guys to take advantage of the shift and hit to the opposite side. And, PLEASE find one who can teach bunting. I don’t think we need a new pitching coach. I’m just tired of hearing that he walks on water. Osuna led the league in saves. He also had to be bailed out by Harris against the Rays and by Altuve against the Yankees. He hasn’t created one late-inning reliever you could be confident in to get the last three outs of a game. He’s a great pitching coach, but he can’t turn water into wine like all the fans think.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 6, 2020 22:18:36 GMT -6
You guys just kill me bashing Strom, who is one of the top pitching coaches in the game. Cole had the stuff when he came here, but, never came close to pitching as well in Pittsburgh as he did here. He was outstanding here, but, he isn't doing with the Yankees anywhere near what he did last year. Could be not having Strom around is the reason he hasn't been that good so far this year. Dallas was great until opposing hitters learned to lay off the stuff out of the zone. He came into the zone and it was BP. Morton was not very good before coming to Houston. After the idiots let Morton walk, he went to the Rays and finished right behind Verlander and Cole in the Cy Young vote. Then, we traded 4 good prospects for Greinke and depleted our farm system. If they had kept Morton, we would not have needed to trade for Greinke. Don't blame McCullers being a head case on Strom. Oh, I guess you forgot that Osuna led the AL in saves last season. No, Strom is over-rated. LOL I wonder who helped Valdez turn it around and become a solid starter. If we need a different coach, it's a hitting coach. Who the hell is doing that after Centron got suspended? Centron sucked so anyone would have been an improvement. We need to find a hitting coach who can ge these guys to take advantage of the shift and hit to the opposite side. And, PLEASE find one who can teach bunting. I don’t think we need a new pitching coach. I’m just tired of hearing that he walks on water. Osuna led the league in saves. He also had to be bailed out by Harris against the Rays and by Altuve against the Yankees. He hasn’t created one late-inning reliever you could be confident in to get the last three outs of a game. He’s a great pitching coach, but he can’t turn water into wine like all the fans think. A closer is a different type animal than the rest. Temperment has lot to do with a pitcher being a great closer. Strom doesn't give them their mental make up. We have guys with the stuff to close,but, I am not sure their temperment will allow it. McCullers and James both have the stuff to be dominant closers, but, I am not sure if they could do the job. I think that is what they need to explore with McCullers. I am not sure Osuna was totally healthy at the end of last season and Pressly hasn't been the same since the injury he had last season. Peacock's injuries have limited him. We have so many injured pitchers now mostly because of not having a normal spring training and having "summer camp" instead. Other players' injuries could be partly blamed on that. This season was screwed from the beginning starting with the sign-stealing scandal.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 6, 2020 22:42:34 GMT -6
Giles came over as a promising stud closer prospect, then nothing. Osuna had success before coming here. Strom didn’t do anything with them. You guys just kill me bashing Strom, who is one of the top pitching coaches in the game. Cole had the stuff when he came here, but, never came close to pitching as well in Pittsburgh as he did here. He was outstanding here, but, he isn't doing with the Yankees anywhere near what he did last year. Could be not having Strom around is the reason he hasn't been that good so far this year. Dallas was great until opposing hitters learned to lay off the stuff out of the zone. He came into the zone and it was BP. Morton was not very good before coming to Houston. After the idiots let Morton walk, he went to the Rays and finished right behind Verlander and Cole in the Cy Young vote. Then, we traded 4 good prospects for Greinke and depleted our farm system. If they had kept Morton, we would not have needed to trade for Greinke. Don't blame McCullers being a head case on Strom. Oh, I guess you forgot that Osuna led the AL in saves last season. No, Strom is over-rated. LOL I wonder who helped Valdez turn it around and become a solid starter. If we need a different coach, it's a hitting coach. Who the hell is doing that after Centron got suspended? Centron sucked so anyone would have been an improvement. We need to find a hitting coach who can ge these guys to take advantage of the shift and hit to the opposite side. And, PLEASE find one who can teach bunting. The real oddity is the fellatio this dude gets, when he has no quantifiable success related to any pitcher who wasn't already elite. He's almost completely unsuccessful with marginal, good, or even very good pitchers. But he can really make Verlander shine! GMAFB
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 23:32:06 GMT -6
You guys just kill me bashing Strom, who is one of the top pitching coaches in the game. Cole had the stuff when he came here, but, never came close to pitching as well in Pittsburgh as he did here. He was outstanding here, but, he isn't doing with the Yankees anywhere near what he did last year. Could be not having Strom around is the reason he hasn't been that good so far this year. Dallas was great until opposing hitters learned to lay off the stuff out of the zone. He came into the zone and it was BP. Morton was not very good before coming to Houston. After the idiots let Morton walk, he went to the Rays and finished right behind Verlander and Cole in the Cy Young vote. Then, we traded 4 good prospects for Greinke and depleted our farm system. If they had kept Morton, we would not have needed to trade for Greinke. Don't blame McCullers being a head case on Strom. Oh, I guess you forgot that Osuna led the AL in saves last season. No, Strom is over-rated. LOL I wonder who helped Valdez turn it around and become a solid starter. If we need a different coach, it's a hitting coach. Who the hell is doing that after Centron got suspended? Centron sucked so anyone would have been an improvement. We need to find a hitting coach who can ge these guys to take advantage of the shift and hit to the opposite side. And, PLEASE find one who can teach bunting. The real oddity is the fellatio this dude gets, when he has no quantifiable success related to any pitcher who wasn't already elite. He's almost completely unsuccessful with marginal, good, or even very good pitchers. But he can really make Verlander shine! GMAFB Preach, Kermit!
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 6, 2020 23:49:58 GMT -6
I don’t think we need a new pitching coach. I’m just tired of hearing that he walks on water. Osuna led the league in saves. He also had to be bailed out by Harris against the Rays and by Altuve against the Yankees. He hasn’t created one late-inning reliever you could be confident in to get the last three outs of a game. He’s a great pitching coach, but he can’t turn water into wine like all the fans think. A closer is a different type animal than the rest. Temperment has lot to do with a pitcher being a great closer. Strom doesn't give them their mental make up. We have guys with the stuff to close,but, I am not sure their temperment will allow it. McCullers and James both have the stuff to be dominant closers, but, I am not sure if they could do the job. I think that is what they need to explore with McCullers. I am not sure Osuna was totally healthy at the end of last season and Pressly hasn't been the same since the injury he had last season. Peacock's injuries have limited him. We have so many injured pitchers now mostly because of not having a normal spring training and having "summer camp" instead. Other players' injuries could be partly blamed on that. This season was screwed from the beginning starting with the sign-stealing scandal. What’s the excuse for Gregerson, Giles, Harris, and Devenski? Why couldn’t any of them become effective closers?
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 7, 2020 2:59:21 GMT -6
if Strom can't fix the trash bullpen why are we expecting him to fix the trash bullpen
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 7, 2020 9:42:20 GMT -6
if Strom can't fix the trash bullpen why are we expecting him to fix the trash bullpen IN STROM WE TRUST
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 7, 2020 9:46:13 GMT -6
You guys just kill me bashing Strom, who is one of the top pitching coaches in the game. Cole had the stuff when he came here, but, never came close to pitching as well in Pittsburgh as he did here. He was outstanding here, but, he isn't doing with the Yankees anywhere near what he did last year. Could be not having Strom around is the reason he hasn't been that good so far this year. Dallas was great until opposing hitters learned to lay off the stuff out of the zone. He came into the zone and it was BP. Morton was not very good before coming to Houston. After the idiots let Morton walk, he went to the Rays and finished right behind Verlander and Cole in the Cy Young vote. Then, we traded 4 good prospects for Greinke and depleted our farm system. If they had kept Morton, we would not have needed to trade for Greinke. Don't blame McCullers being a head case on Strom. Oh, I guess you forgot that Osuna led the AL in saves last season. No, Strom is over-rated. LOL I wonder who helped Valdez turn it around and become a solid starter. If we need a different coach, it's a hitting coach. Who the hell is doing that after Centron got suspended? Centron sucked so anyone would have been an improvement. We need to find a hitting coach who can ge these guys to take advantage of the shift and hit to the opposite side. And, PLEASE find one who can teach bunting. The real oddity is the fellatio this dude gets, when he has no quantifiable success related to any pitcher who wasn't already elite. He's almost completely unsuccessful with marginal, good, or even very good pitchers. But he can really make Verlander shine! GMAFB I don't think Charlie Morton was considered to be "elite" when he came to the Astros....He was when he left. Strom had him for two years and now he is considered one of the best. Keuchel damn sure wasn't elite when Strom got him,but, won a Cy Young while Strom coached him. Verlander gives him credit for helping him make some adjustments. Of course, since he took over from a clown like Brocail, he was a hell of an improvement. I would call Morton and Keuchel good but nowhere near elite before Strom got them. He didn't do much with Giles because Giles was a basket case. It is hard to coach a guy whose elevator never leaves the first floor. McCullers is his own worst enemy letting his emotions take over. As i said, somebody developed Valdez and is turning Javier into a quality starter. If it isn't Strom, I'd like to know who it is. si
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 7, 2020 9:49:20 GMT -6
A closer is a different type animal than the rest. Temperment has lot to do with a pitcher being a great closer. Strom doesn't give them their mental make up. We have guys with the stuff to close,but, I am not sure their temperment will allow it. McCullers and James both have the stuff to be dominant closers, but, I am not sure if they could do the job. I think that is what they need to explore with McCullers. I am not sure Osuna was totally healthy at the end of last season and Pressly hasn't been the same since the injury he had last season. Peacock's injuries have limited him. We have so many injured pitchers now mostly because of not having a normal spring training and having "summer camp" instead. Other players' injuries could be partly blamed on that. This season was screwed from the beginning starting with the sign-stealing scandal. What’s the excuse for Gregerson, Giles, Harris, and Devenski? Why couldn’t any of them become effective closers? Gregerson didn't have a fastball and had to depend on location.....not good traits for a cloer. Giles had the stuff but was a wack job. Harris was a good setup man who was forced into a closer role at times. Devenski was a flash in the pan with a great off-speed pitch, and, was great until hitters got used to him and knew all they had to do was wait on his changeup. He is horrible and needs to go. Strom could not give him velocity.
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 7, 2020 10:10:52 GMT -6
if Strom can't fix the trash bullpen why are we expecting him to fix the trash bullpen IN STROM WE TRUST DAMN STRAIGHT! I don't care what that little amphibian says...
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 7, 2020 12:07:35 GMT -6
DAMN STRAIGHT! I don't care what that little amphibian says... Remembering how Brocail sucked makes me really appreciate what Strom has done and is still doing. Now, if they would hire a decent hitting coach.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 14:54:34 GMT -6
Doug Brocail was pitching coach during the three 100 loss plus seasons. I don't see how that is an indicator of anything.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 7, 2020 15:47:14 GMT -6
Doug Brocail was pitching coach during the three 100 loss plus seasonTht s. I don't see how that is an indicator of anything. Brocail was pitching coach with the Astros and sucked so bad that he got demoted to "special assistant" before being fired. The Rangers hired him and he was fired along with manager Jeff Banister. The Orioles hired him in 2019 and he is still there.........for now. He was always sort of a flake.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 7, 2020 17:07:05 GMT -6
Doug Brocail was pitching coach during the three 100 loss plus seasons. I don't see how that is an indicator of anything. LOL, joined the forum on Nov 21, 2018...and it took a Corch post on Sept 7, 2020 to get you to respond and post.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 7, 2020 18:30:36 GMT -6
Doug Brocail was pitching coach during the three 100 loss plus seasons. I don't see how that is an indicator of anything. LOL, joined the forum on Nov 21, 2018...and it took a Corch post on Sept 7, 2020 to get you to respond and post. I hope I didn't get something started........I wonder which former poster this is. LOL
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