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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 14, 2021 12:24:16 GMT -6
I don't hold out much hope for the Astros landing any starting position on the All Star team. Fans all over both leagues will black ball our players due to the sign stealing scandal. I understand fans being allowed to select the All Star starters, but, it is entirely too political. Fans don't go by the actual performances of individual players. They vote for the players on their team regardless of whether they deserve the votes or not. Mike Trout leads the voting for AL outfielders and he is on the IL and probably won't get to play even if he wins. For Marcus Semien to be leading Jose at second base is an absolute joke and that is due to the sign-stealing. Bregman is running third behind Devers and Moncada. For Correa to be 4th behind Bogaerts, Bichette, and Anderson is also a joke and caused by the sign stealing. Michael Brantley is 9th in the outfield voting behind some guys who aren't half the player he is. Aaron Judge is second behind the vacationing Angel and that is a joke. Garcia of Texas, Teoscar, and Verdugo all are ahead of Michael. Of course, I'm biased. I think Brantley and Tucker both deserve votes as does our entire infield. I even voted for Maldonado to be the catcher. www.mlb.com/astros/news/2021-all-star-ballot-phase-1-first-standings-update |
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Post by Saint on Jun 14, 2021 12:33:49 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I don't think any of our guys will be voted in as starters even if they weren't involved in 2017-2018. Probably for another couple of years even. I also don't expect them to get much support from sportswriters for the other annual awards, deserving or not.
Likely a couple will make it as reserves. I don't expect much. Altuve, Yuli, and Correa are all deserving as reserves at least, but I bet they don't all make it. Tucker, Brantley, and Yordan have outside chances depending on injuries.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 14, 2021 12:53:23 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I don't think any of our guys will be voted in as starters even if they weren't involved in 2017-2018. Probably for another couple of years even. I also don't expect them to get much support from sportswriters for the other annual awards, deserving or not. Likely a couple will make it as reserves. I don't expect much. Altuve, Yuli, and Correa are all deserving as reserves at least, but I bet they don't all make it. Tucker, Brantley, and Yordan have outside chances depending on injuries. I voted for all of them and will try to vote as many times as I am allowed. I held my nose and voted for Bregman, who doesn't look like an all star right now. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 15, 2021 7:45:29 GMT -6
I had an epiphany a few years ago, and it led to me not caring about the All-Star vote. It came from watching Derek Jeter get selected year after year after year when he wasn't close to being the best at his position. It's confirmed when Mike Trout is winning the voting while sitting on his couch at home.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 15, 2021 9:25:58 GMT -6
I had an epiphany a few years ago, and it led to me not caring about the All-Star vote. It came from watching Derek Jeter get selected year after year after year when he wasn't close to being the best at his position. It's confirmed when Mike Trout is winning the voting while sitting on his couch at home. If the fans knew Trout was on life support, he would still lead the voting. This is why I question allowing fans to pick the All Stars. I realize the game is an exhibition game but home field advantage in the WS is determined by the winner unless that is another of Manfred's rule changes. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 15, 2021 9:28:21 GMT -6
I had an epiphany a few years ago, and it led to me not caring about the All-Star vote. It came from watching Derek Jeter get selected year after year after year when he wasn't close to being the best at his position. It's confirmed when Mike Trout is winning the voting while sitting on his couch at home. Did you ever see that Eddie Murphy movie distinguished gentleman.... Where he got into Congress just because of his last name.... The long-standing person before him passed away but he had the same name... And people didn't keep up with current affairs...they just kept voting the name they knew |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 15, 2021 11:11:12 GMT -6
I had an epiphany a few years ago, and it led to me not caring about the All-Star vote. It came from watching Derek Jeter get selected year after year after year when he wasn't close to being the best at his position. It's confirmed when Mike Trout is winning the voting while sitting on his couch at home. Did you ever see that Eddie Murphy movie distinguished gentleman.... Where he got into Congress just because of his last name.... The long-standing person before him passed away but he had the same name... And people didn't keep up with current affairs...they just kept voting the name they knew Just for reference: Any question to me that starts with "Did you ever see that movie..." will almost always be answered "no". I probably haven't seen 100 movies in my lifetime. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 15, 2021 13:07:09 GMT -6
Did you ever see that Eddie Murphy movie distinguished gentleman.... Where he got into Congress just because of his last name.... The long-standing person before him passed away but he had the same name... And people didn't keep up with current affairs...they just kept voting the name they knew Just for reference: Any question to me that starts with "Did you ever see that movie..." will almost always be answered "no". I probably haven't seen 100 movies in my lifetime. What was Charlie Chaplin like? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 15, 2021 13:26:40 GMT -6
Just for reference: Any question to me that starts with "Did you ever see that movie..." will almost always be answered "no". I probably haven't seen 100 movies in my lifetime. What was Charlie Chaplin like? How would I know? I've never seen any of his movies. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 15, 2021 13:30:30 GMT -6
I had an epiphany a few years ago, and it led to me not caring about the All-Star vote. It came from watching Derek Jeter get selected year after year after year when he wasn't close to being the best at his position. It's confirmed when Mike Trout is winning the voting while sitting on his couch at home. He’s the greatest part-time player I’ve ever seen. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 21, 2021 10:58:30 GMT -6
FIRST BASE
AL
1) Vladimir Guerrero Jr., TOR, 49%
2) Yuli Gurriel, HOU, 10%
3) José Abreu, CWS, 8%
Next up: Jared Walsh, LAA, 6%; Matt Olson, OAK, 4%
One of several Astros who have moved up in the standings since the first ballot update, Gurriel has jumped ahead of last year’s AL MVP, Abreu. Now in third, Abreu holds a lead of roughly 72,000 votes over Walsh.
SECOND BASE
AL
1) Marcus Semien, TOR, 35%
2) Jose Altuve, HOU, 21%
3) DJ LeMahieu, NYY, 9%
Next up: Nick Madrigal, CWS, 7%; David Fletcher, LAA, 6%
There’s been no change to the top three here, and LeMahieu has widened his lead over Madrigal, who will miss the rest of the season after undergoing surgery to repair a torn right hamstring.
THIRD BASE
AL
1) Rafael Devers, BOS, 28%
2) Alex Bregman, HOU, 13%
3) Yoán Moncada, CWS, 12%
Next up: José Ramírez, CLE, 9%; Anthony Rendon, LAA, 6%
Bregman was behind Moncada in the first update, but the Astros’ third baseman has moved into second place. Trailing by 95,000 votes, Ramírez has some work to do if he’s going to bump Moncada from the top three.
SHORTSTOP
AL
1) Xander Bogaerts, BOS, 30%
2) Bo Bichette, TOR, 18%
3) Carlos Correa, HOU, 11%
Next up: Tim Anderson, CWS, 10%; Adalberto Mondesi, KC, 6%
The surging Correa has climbed into the top three, moving ahead of Anderson. Fewer than 41,000 votes separate the two shortstops.
OUTFIELD
AL
1) Mike Trout, LAA, 14%
2) Aaron Judge, NYY, 10%
3) Byron Buxton, MIN, 7%
4) Adolis García, TEX, 6%
5) Teoscar Hernández, TOR, 5%
6) Michael Brantley, HOU, 4%
7) Randal Grichuk, TOR, 4%
8) Alex Verdugo, BOS, 4%
9) Cedric Mullins, BAL, 4%
Next up: Randy Arozarena, TB, 4%; Kyle Tucker, HOU, 3%
While the top five remains unchanged from last week, Brantley has moved from ninth to sixth, and Mullins has knocked Arozarena out of the top nine. It could be a close race to the finish, as the two are separated by fewer than 8,000 votes.
CATCHER
AL
1) Salvador Perez, KC, 42%
2) Yasmani Grandal, CWS, 10%
3) Martín Maldonado, HOU, 9%
Next up: Christian Vázquez, BOS, 6%; Kurt Suzuki, LAA, 6%
With 1,391,586 votes, Perez is now the No. 2 vote getter in the AL behind Guerrero, the overall MLB leader. The Royals' catcher has surpassed Trout since the last update. Maldonado, meanwhile, has extended his lead over Vazquez to more than 100,000 votes in the race for the No. 3 spot.
DESIGNATED HITTER
1) Shohei Ohtani, LAA, 35%
2) J.D. Martinez, BOS, 16%
3) Yordan Alvarez, HOU, 11%
Next up: Yermín Mercedes, CWS, 7%; Lourdes Gurriel Jr., TOR, 6%
The Ohtani train keeps on rolling. The Angels' two-way phenom has received the fifth-most votes in the AL behind Guerrero, Perez, Trout and Semien. Alvarez is running away with the No. 3 spot at DH, increasing his lead over Mercedes to roughly 130,000 votes.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 21, 2021 11:17:53 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 21, 2021 11:23:13 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often. This is somehow news to you? |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 21, 2021 11:27:43 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often. This is somehow news to you? LOL, it was a joke since Bud started it. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 21, 2021 11:51:53 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often. This is somehow news to you? I might be wrong with Bud starting fan voting, it might have been Kuhn. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 21, 2021 12:36:41 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 21, 2021 12:53:50 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often. Well, very good thing is we don't have to worry about some freak injury at the All-Star game. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 21, 2021 13:57:44 GMT -6
I don't care if they start or not, but Yuli, Correa, and Altuve should make the team one way or another. And I haven't looked at all of the pitching numbers, but I feel like we should have at least one pitcher make it.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 21, 2021 14:14:55 GMT -6
This fan voting is a farce, just like the 2020 presidential election, vote early and vote often. How many years to finally take an Astro to breach for a starting position, when they finally get their recognized due, the cheating scandal. Which will as you say will be a long time coming. |
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Post by talshill on Jun 21, 2021 14:38:03 GMT -6
I'm thinking that only one Astro will be selected and that the token player will probably be Pressly.
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Post by Saint on Jun 21, 2021 14:53:58 GMT -6
I think enough people around baseball respect Altuve still and have heard that he wasn't involved so that he'll get on as a reserve if he's still playing well.
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Post by churchill on Jul 2, 2021 1:45:40 GMT -6
I had an epiphany a few years ago, and it led to me not caring about the All-Star vote. It came from watching Derek Jeter get selected year after year after year when he wasn't close to being the best at his position. It's confirmed when Mike Trout is winning the voting while sitting on his couch at home. Did you ever see that Eddie Murphy movie distinguished gentleman.... Where he got into Congress just because of his last name.... The long-standing person before him passed away but he had the same name... And people didn't keep up with current affairs...they just kept voting the name they knew You do know movie aren't real right? |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 2, 2021 8:28:31 GMT -6
I might be wrong with Bud starting fan voting, it might have been Kuhn. I searched teh interwebs and found this: www.mlb.com/glossary/miscellaneous/all-star-ballotSo it looks like it was Kuhn who brought back fan voting. However, Selig and Manfred have made some tweaks to the system. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 2, 2021 8:32:27 GMT -6
Fans don't go by the actual performances of individual players. They vote for the players on their team regardless of whether they deserve the votes or not. If that's true, you can blame the lack of Astros on the roster this year on the Astros fans who didn't vote.  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 2, 2021 11:21:26 GMT -6
I might be wrong with Bud starting fan voting, it might have been Kuhn. I searched teh interwebs and found this: www.mlb.com/glossary/miscellaneous/all-star-ballotSo it looks like it was Kuhn who brought back fan voting. However, Selig and Manfred have made some tweaks to the system. Didn't KC fans do the ballot-stuffing thing a few years ago? |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jul 2, 2021 11:55:56 GMT -6
Didn't KC fans do the ballot-stuffing thing a few years ago? Yeah, that would have been 2015 and again in 2016. Ballot-stuffing was actually 'legit' at the time. Everyone was allowed to vote 35 times! They made a mockery of it, though. They almost had enough votes for Omar Infante to be in the starting lineup. Not that Omar was a bad player over his career. But by that time, his performance level was seriously in decline. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 2, 2021 12:27:08 GMT -6
I think we end up with three position player reserves and one pitcher.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 2, 2021 13:16:49 GMT -6
I think we end up with three position player reserves and one pitcher. I am fine with any Astros not going. Rest up guys, you have a WS to win!! |
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Post by Saint on Jul 4, 2021 14:38:47 GMT -6
All-Stars announced at 4:30 for those that care. I predict Jose, Correa, and Brantley. Yuli and a pitcher could sneak in.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 4, 2021 14:41:52 GMT -6
All-Stars announced at 4:30 for those that care. I predict Jose, Correa, and Brantley. Yuli and a pitcher could sneak in. I know we won't get as many as we deserve. I think we get at leas two position players and a pitcher which could be Pressly. |
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