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Post by Saint on May 16, 2018 9:53:41 GMT -6
Let's go Altuve! Feed Saint some crow! Pfft. I've said all along that his RISP numbers were great, and we all know he can hit on the road. We need him to do this at home!
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Post by bearbryant on May 16, 2018 10:59:34 GMT -6
Every team in the AL Central has a losing record right now
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Post by blcoach8 on May 16, 2018 11:17:31 GMT -6
The guy who is swinging the hottest bat should get the call.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 16, 2018 11:26:26 GMT -6
I was dozing on and off, but awake for the comeback. It was nice. Altuve's double made all the difference. Without it, the Astros would probably have lost 3-2. I was not impressed with how Altuve got himself thrown out at home by trying to advance 2 bases on a simple infield grounder. 1 base, sure, but 2? That's not smart baserunning. 7 hits and 1 walk in the game didn't amount to a whole lot of offense, but it got the job done, even on a day when Cole gave up a couple long balls. We stayed awake long enough to see Altuve clear the bases. Dozed off and woke up in time to see Giles get the last out. Fell asleep with a smile on my face. I am sure you did, WTG Ernie's Dad!!!
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Post by paastrosfan on May 16, 2018 11:29:10 GMT -6
Can't wait for OlPapa's reaction. Good morning everyone....and I do mean GOOD morning!!!! What a great way to start the day!!!! I was just following the talk of the board, if Jake decided not to take the demotion, would he be considered or declared himself a FA.
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Post by olpapa on May 16, 2018 11:33:48 GMT -6
Every team in the AL Central has a losing record right now
Wow. I just looked at Cleveland’s team stats. Last season their starters finished #2 (behind the Dodgers) with a 3.52 ERA and their bullpen finished #1 in ERA at 2.89. So far this year their starters are #5 in ERA at 3.52, but their bullpen is dead last in ERA at 5.73. Since Cleveland’s offense is #8 in runs scored at 201 and #1 in home runs with 63, that bullpen collapse can probably go a long way in explaining their sub-.500 record. I hope the Astros can get into that bullpen.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 16, 2018 11:34:23 GMT -6
Keep missing those low pitches, Marwin. Mercy... his playing time should be half of what it currently is. Tyler White plays the same defensive positions as Marwin, though not as well; however if we consider White would likely maintain an OPS of at least .800 whereas Marwin is hitting <.650, White's bat more than makes up for what he lacks in defense. White has made 3 errors so far this season (I believe all at 3B) whereas Bregman, by comparison, has 7. Bregman is still the better defender based on range, but White isn't the disaster on the field some people claim. I say it would be nice to see White get another shot to see if he can stick. But Davis was starting to swing the bat when they sent him down. I guess they are sitting on it to the last minute with the team in Calif.
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Post by olpapa on May 16, 2018 11:38:05 GMT -6
Good morning everyone....and I do mean GOOD morning!!!! What a great way to start the day!!!! I was just following the talk of the board, if Jake decided not to take the demotion, would he be considered or declared himself a FA. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if my calculations are correct..., and my understanding of the rule is correct..., I don’t think Jake has the 5 full years of service time in MLB required for him to have the right to refuse the assignment. If he did have the right to refuse, and did so, I think he would become a free agent. Again..., if I understand the rule correctly..., since Jake debuted in MLB over two years ago, I think he had to be placed on waivers for 48 hours before he could be optioned to the minors. Teams don’t always announce (probably seldom do, truth be known) when they put a player on waivers. I’m assuming he was placed on waivers for 48 hours prior to last night’s announcement, and no other team claimed him.
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Post by bearbryant on May 16, 2018 11:42:13 GMT -6
Every team in the AL Central has a losing record right now
Wow. I just looked at Cleveland’s team stats. Last season their starters finished #2 (behind the Dodgers) with a 3.52 ERA and their bullpen finished #1 in ERA at 2.89. So far this year their starters are #5 in ERA at 3.52, but their bullpen is dead last in ERA at 5.73. Since Cleveland’s offense is #8 in runs scored at 201 and #1 in home runs with 63, that bullpen collapse can probably go a long way in explaining their sub-.500 record. I hope the Astros can get into that bullpen. Every one of their relievers (save Miller) has taken a step back this year
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Post by sempersmom on May 16, 2018 11:43:15 GMT -6
We stayed awake long enough to see Altuve clear the bases. Dozed off and woke up in time to see Giles get the last out. Fell asleep with a smile on my face. I am sure you did, WTG Ernie's Dad!!! You are so bad. I should have known your dirty mind would go there.
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Post by olpapa on May 16, 2018 11:46:21 GMT -6
I am sure you did, WTG Ernie's Dad!!! You are so bad. I should have known your dirty mind would go there. What thomas needs is a good spanking!
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Post by paastrosfan on May 16, 2018 12:19:37 GMT -6
I was just following the talk of the board, if Jake decided not to take the demotion, would he be considered or declared himself a FA. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if my calculations are correct..., and my understanding of the rule is correct..., I don’t think Jake has the 5 full years of service time in MLB required for him to have the right to refuse the assignment. If he did have the right to refuse, and did so, I think he would become a free agent. Again..., if I understand the rule correctly..., since Jake debuted in MLB over two years ago, I think he had to be placed on waivers for 48 hours before he could be optioned to the minors. Teams don’t always announce (probably seldom do, truth be known) when they put a player on waivers. I’m assuming he was placed on waivers for 48 hours prior to last night’s announcement, and no other team claimed him. www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/marisja01.shtmlOn Baseball Reference Jake has played parts of six years in the show. But according to the rules a player has to be on the regular championship roster 172 days to be considered a year of service. So your explanation is better than anything I could find.
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Post by olpapa on May 16, 2018 12:33:09 GMT -6
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if my calculations are correct..., and my understanding of the rule is correct..., I don’t think Jake has the 5 full years of service time in MLB required for him to have the right to refuse the assignment. If he did have the right to refuse, and did so, I think he would become a free agent. Again..., if I understand the rule correctly..., since Jake debuted in MLB over two years ago, I think he had to be placed on waivers for 48 hours before he could be optioned to the minors. Teams don’t always announce (probably seldom do, truth be known) when they put a player on waivers. I’m assuming he was placed on waivers for 48 hours prior to last night’s announcement, and no other team claimed him. www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/marisja01.shtmlOn Baseball Reference Jake has played parts of six years in the show. But according to the rules a player has to be on the regular championship roster 172 days to be considered a year of service. So your explanation is better than anything I could find. Here, from Baseball Reference (under the title “option waivers”) is the rule I was referring to about Jake having to be placed on waivers for 48 hours before he could be sent to the minors: “When a team wishes to send a player who has options to the minor leagues, there is a catch if the player's debut date is over two years ago. In those cases, the team needs to place his name on the waiver list and wait 48 hours for a claim. As with a player's first time on trade waivers, the team which claims the player can either work out a trade, or assume the player's contract for the option waiver price, or the submitting team may withdraw his name from the waivers. Since not irrevocable, placing a player on option waivers does not clear space for another player on their team's 25-man and 40-man rosters. Only when the player is claimed and sold or passes through and sent to minors does roster space appear. Teams are reluctant to make option claims since waiving team can pull the player back--this means claiming team not only doesn't get the player but has antagonized the waiving team. In the future, their roles will be reversed.”
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Post by olpapa on May 16, 2018 12:44:39 GMT -6
Wow. I just looked at Cleveland’s team stats. Last season their starters finished #2 (behind the Dodgers) with a 3.52 ERA and their bullpen finished #1 in ERA at 2.89. So far this year their starters are #5 in ERA at 3.52, but their bullpen is dead last in ERA at 5.73. Since Cleveland’s offense is #8 in runs scored at 201 and #1 in home runs with 63, that bullpen collapse can probably go a long way in explaining their sub-.500 record. I hope the Astros can get into that bullpen. Every one of their relievers (save Miller) has taken a step back this yearLooking ahead to the Cleveland series this weekend.....we are supposed to be facing Clevinger, Kluber and Carrasco. Clevinger seems to give the Astros a fit. Could be that our batters are distracted by all that ugly out there on the mound.
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Post by bearbryant on May 16, 2018 13:00:18 GMT -6
Dude looks like a Mötley Crüe roadie
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Post by bannedfan on May 16, 2018 13:38:35 GMT -6
Per Rotoworld, Tony Kemp is the player coming up.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 16, 2018 14:21:24 GMT -6
Per Rotoworld, Tony Kemp is the player coming up. I did not expect that. We needed a right-handed power bat.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 16, 2018 14:27:11 GMT -6
You are so bad. I should have known your dirty mind would go there. What thomas needs is a good spanking! kinky!
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Post by bannedfan on May 16, 2018 15:27:50 GMT -6
Per Rotoworld, Tony Kemp is the player coming up. I did not expect that. We needed a right-handed power bat. Thinking the Astros wanted an outfielder to replace Jake.
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Post by bannedfan on May 16, 2018 15:30:28 GMT -6
Maybe Jakes injury the end of 2017 has something to do with his problems hitting in 2018.
Yuli’s surgery could have something to do with his lack of power, so far, in 2018.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 16, 2018 15:33:38 GMT -6
Maybe Jakes injury the end of 2017 has something to do with his problems hitting in 2018. Yuli’s surgery could have something to do with his lack of power, so far, in 2018. <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 34.180000000000064px; height: 3.5600000000000023px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_42679047" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1638px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_2390162" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_4101556" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1638px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_70280339" scrolling="no"></iframe> good points and both make sense. Now if we could find a reason to explain why Marwin hasn't been close to as good as last year
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Post by olpapa on May 16, 2018 15:54:40 GMT -6
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if my calculations are correct..., and my understanding of the rule is correct..., I don’t think Jake has the 5 full years of service time in MLB required for him to have the right to refuse the assignment. If he did have the right to refuse, and did so, I think he would become a free agent. Again..., if I understand the rule correctly..., since Jake debuted in MLB over two years ago, I think he had to be placed on waivers for 48 hours before he could be optioned to the minors. Teams don’t always announce (probably seldom do, truth be known) when they put a player on waivers. I’m assuming he was placed on waivers for 48 hours prior to last night’s announcement, and no other team claimed him. www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/marisja01.shtmlOn Baseball Reference Jake has played parts of six years in the show. But according to the rules a player has to be on the regular championship roster 172 days to be considered a year of service. So your explanation is better than anything I could find. Here is another good article I found on MLB option rules: www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2018/04/11/so-youre-still-struggling-understand-options-major-league-baseball-heres-how-works/505642002/
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Post by unionstation82 on May 16, 2018 16:47:29 GMT -6
Every team in the AL Central has a losing record right now
ROFL Bauer better step up his spin rate game.
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Post by astrosdoug on May 16, 2018 16:53:41 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 16, 2018 17:46:14 GMT -6
blcoach8 we know why Marwin isn't performing as well as he did last year...last year was a fluke and he's now gone back to his historical ability.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 16, 2018 19:35:52 GMT -6
It was a great article, and I bookmarked it. I do remember the guys in the booth last season talking about an option year, that a player can go up and down as many times and still count as one option. I used to think one trip up, down and then back counted as two. Also the other explanations were really great to learn some new knowledge.
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Post by sempersmom on May 16, 2018 19:54:39 GMT -6
Let's go Altuve! Feed Saint some crow! Pfft. I've said all along that his RISP numbers were great, and we all know he can hit on the road. We need him to do this at home! No thank you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by bearbryant on May 16, 2018 21:46:24 GMT -6
Cleveland’s offense is #8 in runs scored at 201 and #1 in home runs with 63, that bullpen collapse can probably go a long way in explaining their sub-.500 record. I don't know who'd be more frustrated. The Indians busting all these roundtrippers and having it wasted by their bullpen, or us with the greatest rotation ever and having it wasted by our starting lineup
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Post by paastrosfan on May 16, 2018 21:53:30 GMT -6
Calhoun gets a break, then takes an advantage of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 21:55:01 GMT -6
Now I'm wishing we would have scored a couple more.
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