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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 30, 2021 20:34:12 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 31, 2021 19:51:59 GMT -6
Shootings will go up big time. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 31, 2021 21:09:24 GMT -6
Shootings will go up big time. Nonsense. Same thing people said when concealed carry started, and again when open carry passed. An armed populace is a polite populace. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 1, 2021 8:57:59 GMT -6
Shootings will go up big time. Nonsense. Same thing people said when concealed carry started, and again when open carry passed. An armed populace is a polite populace. I own many guns. I just got a new Colt Defender in a .45. What worries me is being at the grocery store and hearing a shoot out on aisle 5. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2021 9:09:14 GMT -6
Nonsense. Same thing people said when concealed carry started, and again when open carry passed. An armed populace is a polite populace. I own many guns. I just got a new Colt Defender in a .45. What worries me is being at the grocery store and hearing a shoot out on aisle 5. There is just no evidence that constitutional carry leads to that. There are many states that have allowed non-licensed carry for YEARS, but very few cases of shootouts on aisle 5. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2021 9:10:55 GMT -6
Also, the 2 hours of training and paying the government $150 in no way made carrying a handgun safer.
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 1, 2021 9:51:17 GMT -6
Also, the 2 hours of training and paying the government $150 in no way made carrying a handgun safer. I disagree. But I am a firm fan of the 2nd. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2021 10:03:07 GMT -6
Also, the 2 hours of training and paying the government $150 in no way made carrying a handgun safer. I disagree. But I am a firm fan of the 2nd. I'm willing to review your proof. You cannot support the 2A and let the government impinge on your right to bear arms at the same time. It's counterintuitive. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 1, 2021 10:49:09 GMT -6
I disagree. But I am a firm fan of the 2nd. I'm willing to review your proof. You cannot support the 2A and let the government impinge on your right to bear arms at the same time. It's counterintuitive. I believe everyone should be able to own firearms. Just not sure I feel safe with all of the idiots I know walking around with one on their hip. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2021 11:15:55 GMT -6
I'm willing to review your proof. You cannot support the 2A and let the government impinge on your right to bear arms at the same time. It's counterintuitive. I believe everyone should be able to own firearms. Just not sure I feel safe with all of the idiots I know walking around with one on their hip. A firearm in your closet is worthless to you when you're in Brookshire Bros. shopping on aisle 4. AND the idiots you know walking around are still banned from carrying if they were banned from carrying last month. AND, you have no guaranteed expectation of feeling safe outside of your home. AND, criminals ALL have been carrying their illegal firearms despite being banned from doing so. Gun rights groups call your way of thinking being a "Butter"..."I support the 2A...BUT!" The constitution precludes those "buts". |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 1, 2021 12:43:17 GMT -6
I believe everyone should be able to own firearms. Just not sure I feel safe with all of the idiots I know walking around with one on their hip. A firearm in your closet is worthless to you when you're in Brookshire Bros. shopping on aisle 4. AND the idiots you know walking around are still banned from carrying if they were banned from carrying last month. AND, you have no guaranteed expectation of feeling safe outside of your home. AND, criminals ALL have been carrying their illegal firearms despite being banned from doing so. Gun rights groups call your way of thinking being a "Butter"..."I support the 2A...BUT!" The constitution precludes those "buts". I am not trying to piss you off on the subject. I am a member of the NRA and probably own more guns than the average guy. I just get uncomfortable when every tom, dick and harry are walking around with one on his hip. Private message me your number and I will text you a pic of my 3 newest toys I just got. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2021 12:46:37 GMT -6
A firearm in your closet is worthless to you when you're in Brookshire Bros. shopping on aisle 4. AND the idiots you know walking around are still banned from carrying if they were banned from carrying last month. AND, you have no guaranteed expectation of feeling safe outside of your home. AND, criminals ALL have been carrying their illegal firearms despite being banned from doing so. Gun rights groups call your way of thinking being a "Butter"..."I support the 2A...BUT!" The constitution precludes those "buts". I am not trying to piss you off on the subject. I am a member of the NRA and probably own more guns than the average guy. I just get uncomfortable when every tom, dick and harry are walking around with one on his hip. Private message me your number and I will text you a pic of my 3 newest toys I just got. You've never pissed anyone off in your life, I would imagine.  |
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Post by Saint on Sept 1, 2021 13:06:58 GMT -6
Shootings will go up big time. No they won't. If anything, you'll likely see a decrease in violent crimes. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 1, 2021 14:28:32 GMT -6
Shootings will go up big time. No they won't. If anything, you'll likely see a decrease in violent crimes. I hope so. Here where I live violence has increased big time in the past year or so. Shootings often. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 1, 2021 14:29:26 GMT -6
No they won't. If anything, you'll likely see a decrease in violent crimes. I hope so. Here where I live violence has increased big time in the past year or so. Shootings often. The thing is, if people want to use a gun illegally, they're going to use a gun illegally. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 1, 2021 17:38:11 GMT -6
Maine has had that for quite a while and is considered to be the safest State.
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 1, 2021 19:18:52 GMT -6
Maine has had that for quite a while and is considered to be the safest State. I didn't realize people live in Maine. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 1, 2021 21:42:37 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings about this. No need to have the government look up your ass with a microscope (background check). - Good. No need to wade through miles of red tape before being allowed to own and carry. - Good. No need to learn basic firearm safety. - Not good. Yeah, yeah. I know 2A doesn't include any language about training. But firearms can kill. Automobiles can kill. We require training and competency testing to get a driver's license. It would make sense to require a brief test before purchasing/carrying a firearm.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 1, 2021 22:18:46 GMT -6
No they won't. If anything, you'll likely see a decrease in violent crimes. I hope so. Here where I live violence has increased big time in the past year or so. Shootings often. It used to be rare to hear of a shooting in this area. In the last 3-4 weeks, a deputy sheriff and DPS trooper were both shot. The deputy while trying to serve a warrant. When a 8 hour standoff resulted and the shooter finally agreed to surrender, the DPS officer was shot when the suspect pulled out a concealed weapon and wounded him. Luckily, neither victim was critically injured. A few months back, about 25 miles from here, a DPS trooper was murdered after making a traffic stop. Five shootings, four of which were fatal, happened in Bryan-College Station in the last two weeks. Gun violence is on the rise in this area. People who don't have a gun in their homes are nuts. I always had one under the seat of my truck, but, luckily I never needed it. Every citizen should feel free to carry a gun for their own protection. I knew I was probably violating the law at the time, but, I'd rather be alive and charged with possession of a concealed weapon than have been killed because I didn't have a gun. I never knew the particulars of gun laws. I worked down the hall from a teacher who always had a .22 pistol in her purse while she was teaching. I think most people......teachers and students.....knew she had it. I have never favored gun control laws because they would keep guns out of the hands of those who obey the law while criminals would still have them. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2021 23:24:17 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings about this. No need to have the government look up your ass with a microscope (background check). - Good. No need to wade through miles of red tape before being allowed to own and carry. - Good. No need to learn basic firearm safety. - Not good. Yeah, yeah. I know 2A doesn't include any language about training. But firearms can kill. Automobiles can kill. We require training and competency testing to get a driver's license. It would make sense to require a brief test before purchasing/carrying a firearm. The “training” that is required in most states doesn’t amount to shit. It’s very basic, just a couple of hours. You might also be surprised at how little firearms training that police departments provide for cops on the street. If they don’t arrange practice or training for themselves, they get very little. When I worked for Walker County SO, we only had firearm qualification days once a year. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 2, 2021 8:31:01 GMT -6
The “training” that is required in most states doesn’t amount to shit. It’s very basic, just a couple of hours. In my estimation, a half day should be sufficient for testing, training, and on-site certification. We don't need to teach marksmanship. But awareness of some basic principles can prevent accidental injuries and deaths. - Secure storage of firearms in the home, especially those homes that have small children. - Backyard physics: What goes up, must come down. (I probably don't need to explain why this is important, but I will if asked.) - How to safely disassemble and clean a firearm - With breach loaders and revolvers it's easy and visual to recognize when they're safe. But there are idiots who aren't aware that removing the magazine doesn't remove the chambered round. - Firearm etiquette If the State government doesn't require training, I think the NRA and local gun clubs need to step up to fill the void. Organize and advertise free classes for new owners. Basically one-day sessions. Training and testing in the morning. An hour or two of individually supervised access to the range after lunch. You might also be surprised at how little firearms training that police departments provide for cops on the street. If they don’t arrange practice or training for themselves, they get very little. When I worked for Walker County SO, we only had firearm qualification days once a year. That troubles me. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 2, 2021 10:14:07 GMT -6
You might also be surprised at how little firearms training that police departments provide for cops on the street. If they don’t arrange practice or training for themselves, they get very little. When I worked for Walker County SO, we only had firearm qualification days once a year. That troubles me. It's a ubiquitous scenario throughout the country. It's why I always chuckle when idiots say shit like "that copper should have shot him in the arm...he didn't need to kill him!". Heh. majority of cops are lucky to hit their target at all. Especially when the SHTF. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 2, 2021 10:49:59 GMT -6
It's a ubiquitous scenario throughout the country. It's why I always chuckle when idiots say shit like "that copper should have shot him in the arm...he didn't need to kill him!". Heh. majority of cops are lucky to hit their target at all. Especially when the SHTF. The worst was that Latino in Chicago who sprinted from the cops at night in a poorly lit area while wielding a handgun. He then abruptly stopped and turned around and was shot on reflex. Because he also tossed the gun as he was turning around, the cop was “supposed to not shoot”. Another “mah baybee din doo nuffin” scenario. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Sept 2, 2021 11:16:39 GMT -6
"that copper should have shot him in the arm...he didn't need to kill him!". That's ridiculous.
Should have shot the gun and knocked it right out of his hand, like in the movies. No blood at all.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 2, 2021 11:17:20 GMT -6
It's a ubiquitous scenario throughout the country. It's why I always chuckle when idiots say shit like "that copper should have shot him in the arm...he didn't need to kill him!". Heh. majority of cops are lucky to hit their target at all. Especially when the SHTF. The worst was that Latino in Chicago who sprinted from the cops at night in a poorly lit area while wielding a handgun. He then abruptly stopped and turned around and was shot on reflex. Because he also tossed the gun as he was turning around, the cop was “supposed to not shoot”. Another “mah baybee din doo nuffin” scenario. The best one I heard came from a woman who blasted a homeowner who shot and wounded her son who was in the process of burglarizing the man's home. The woman said the homeowner "valued his possessions more than human life". The kicker was this that she actually said" "How else is he supposed to get his money?" I think we can tell how the son was raised. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 2, 2021 12:31:00 GMT -6
The worst was that Latino in Chicago who sprinted from the cops at night in a poorly lit area while wielding a handgun. He then abruptly stopped and turned around and was shot on reflex. Because he also tossed the gun as he was turning around, the cop was “supposed to not shoot”. Another “mah baybee din doo nuffin” scenario. The best one I heard came from a woman who blasted a homeowner who shot and wounded her son who was in the process of burglarizing the man's home. The woman said the homeowner "valued his possessions more than human life". The kicker was this that she actually said" "How else is he supposed to get his money?" I think we can tell how the son was raised. This society is trash. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 30, 2021 20:12:45 GMT -6
I finally started open carry. I carry a Colt Defender .45.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 3, 2021 20:51:48 GMT -6
I finally started open carry. I carry a Colt Defender .45. No Colt Peacemaker? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 3, 2021 22:50:34 GMT -6
I finally started open carry. I carry a Colt Defender .45. No Colt Peacemaker? Not sure what that is. I carry the Defender Series. I have 3 Colt 1911 but the Defender is a much easier carry gun. |
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