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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 12, 2021 20:27:20 GMT -6
You can tell a zebra by his stripes, you big dummy. Apparently, you don't see very well. But then, you are one of those who always sees what he wants to see instead of what is there. After some of stuff you have posted, I sit and LMAO whenever you call me a mongoloid, retard, dummy, or one of your other colorful terms. I am sure other posters are very impressed with the quality of your posts. I have never seen anyone more transparent. LOL |
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 12, 2021 21:07:14 GMT -6
If the Blue Jays get into the Playoffs over NY and or Boston it will be because of Vladimir Guerrero who has slightly better numbers than the Guy you guys are slobbering all over. Since it is him and another teammate carrying them at this point I think he makes a case for MVP OPS over 1000 and is tied for HR with 44 all of his numbers really are better than Ohtani How are Vlad's pitching numbers looking this year? Don't steal my line, kermit. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2021 10:13:55 GMT -6
So now Ohtani will win because the media is "woke". Lmao That is part of it. But, feel free to stay in awe of a DH who is hitting under .260 and has numbers LESS than Vlad Jr,. who keeps getting ignored while his team has an excellent chance of making the post-season while the media darling's team finishes next to last in division. Vlad Jr. hasn't had the media sucking his ass since ST. His AVG and OBP are eerily to Springer's for his career, but with much higher SLG. If George was on pace for 50 HRs and was also a pitcher who had an ERA in the low 3.00's (or better), would you be saying he isn't an MVP? |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 13, 2021 12:49:23 GMT -6
No Body is saying Ohtani isn't having a great year.
Let's Say that Val Jr. wins the Triple Crown and eliminates either Boston or NY. If the Blue Jays get in it will be at one of those team expenses. His team makes it in the playoffs because of what he has done offensively and defensively. All he has to do is keep doing what he has been doing lately and he will unless the pressure gets to him.
I tried to look up where he ranks defensively. They make it too hard for non-nerd baseball fans to look it up.
And he is in the top third or even higher why does Ohtani deserver it more because he happens to be a pitcher that hits a lot of HR's but is middle of the Pack otherwise and yes he is a Pitcher who most on here would call a B level pitcher and that puts him in the middle of the pack of pitchers.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 13, 2021 12:50:37 GMT -6
No Body is saying Ohtani isn't having a great year. Let's Say that Val Jr. wins the Triple Crown and eliminates either Boston or NY. If the Blue Jays get in it will be at one of those team expenses. His team makes it in the playoffs because of what he has done offensively and defensively. All he has to do is keep doing what he has been doing lately and he will unless the pressure gets to him. I tried to look up where he ranks defensively. They make it too hard for non-nerd baseball fans to look it up. And he is in the top third or even higher why does Ohtani deserver it more because he happens to be a pitcher that hits a lot of HR's but is middle of the Pack otherwise and yes he is a Pitcher who most on here would call a B level pitcher and that puts him in the middle of the pack of pitchers. If Vlad won the Triple Crown, that would likely be the only way he’d beat Shohei, in my opinion. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 13, 2021 13:41:42 GMT -6
If he sucks as bad as Saint said he does on Defense I would find it hard to vote for MVP. He needs to be in the top third in my estimation to be consider even with the Triple Crown
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 13, 2021 14:53:59 GMT -6
No Body is saying Ohtani isn't having a great year. Let's Say that Val Jr. wins the Triple Crown and eliminates either Boston or NY. If the Blue Jays get in it will be at one of those team expenses. His team makes it in the playoffs because of what he has done offensively and defensively. All he has to do is keep doing what he has been doing lately and he will unless the pressure gets to him. I tried to look up where he ranks defensively. They make it too hard for non-nerd baseball fans to look it up. And he is in the top third or even higher why does Ohtani deserver it more because he happens to be a pitcher that hits a lot of HR's but is middle of the Pack otherwise and yes he is a Pitcher who most on here would call a B level pitcher and that puts him in the middle of the pack of pitchers. If Vlad won the Triple Crown, that would likely be the only way he’d beat Shohei, in my opinion. If he wins the Triple Crown and Toronto goes to the post-season, Vlad Jr. should get it,,,,,,,but, he won't. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 13, 2021 15:00:11 GMT -6
The Triple Crown sounds cool, but you only win if you lead in RBI as well as the HRs and AVG. How do you get a lot of RBI? BY BEING ON A GOOD TEAM THAT GETS LOTS OF PEOPLE ON BASE.
It was brought up how Vlad has the higher OPS. Do you know who has the higher OPS with RISP? Ohtani. By 72 freaking points. He would, in theory, likely have considerably more RBI than Vlad if he played on a team as good as the Blue Jays. Because you know what? He also gets walked more than Vlad and pitched around since he has no support.
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