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Post by m240 on Aug 13, 2022 16:37:01 GMT -6
Dusty has had some very good teams and always comes up short. I am more impressed what Dusty has done with the Astros team he was given, than what Hinch did with his Astros team. Lets see Hinch lost to a very good Washington team and Dusty lost to a good Atlanta team. Not really much difference there. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 13, 2022 18:21:42 GMT -6
I am more impressed what Dusty has done with the Astros team he was given, than what Hinch did with his Astros team. Lets see Hinch lost to a very good Washington team and Dusty lost to a good Atlanta team. Not really much difference there. In fairness to Thomas, Hinch blew it worse. |
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Post by talshill on Aug 13, 2022 18:56:57 GMT -6
They couldn’t hit Scherzer or Strasburg outside of Bregman nor would they manufacture runs. Had Yordan’s ball gone over Soto’s head or had the umpire decided to call the 2-1 pitch from Greinke to Soto, I think we win the championship. Hinch’s blame rightfully came from pushing that Will Harris button the day after failing in Game 6 while the baddest pitcher on the planet was warming up in the bullpen. He himself said he’ll always question that move. Yankees of the late 70s hated one another. Still won a couple of titles. I agree that the ability to get along is helpful, but it's not absolutely necessary. |
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Post by talshill on Aug 13, 2022 19:04:47 GMT -6
I know this won't be popular... But in my eyes: Dusty > Hinch. While I'm not convinced that managers make a huge difference in the outcome of games over a full season they absolutely can make a difference in a short series. Dusty does some stuff that I personally consider to be dumb, but if it been done my way it might have made no difference. I don't know who's better or worse but I at least understood Hinch's reasoning (for the most part). |
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Post by m240 on Aug 13, 2022 19:54:44 GMT -6
Lets see Hinch lost to a very good Washington team and Dusty lost to a good Atlanta team. Not really much difference there. In fairness to Thomas, Hinch blew it worse. yeah but Dusty has been blowing it longer |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 13, 2022 20:12:35 GMT -6
Regardless of Hinch’s undying affection for Will Harris, his management of the ‘15 squad was admirable. What about all the other years when his decisions cost us the series? EDIT: Plus, Hinch must take a lot of responsibility for allowing the cheating to persist. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 13, 2022 20:17:20 GMT -6
I think Hinch is overrated and Dusty is underrated. Dierker>Dusty>Hinch I think for the 2019 WS, if Dusty or Dierker were coaching the Astros, the Astros win the 2019 WS. Virdon>Dierker Virdon>Lanier Virdon>Hinch Virdon>Dusty |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 13, 2022 20:37:31 GMT -6
Regardless of Hinch’s undying affection for Will Harris, his management of the ‘15 squad was admirable. What about all the other years when his decisions cost us the series? EDIT: Plus, Hinch must take a lot of responsibility for allowing the cheating to persist. Besides the Harris stuff, nothing comes to mind. There needs to be a middle ground between Hinch always having his nose buried in the clipboard and Dusty’s lack of logic. Both used Greinke like a redheaded stepchild. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 14, 2022 6:48:13 GMT -6
Regardless of Hinch’s undying affection for Will Harris, his management of the ‘15 squad was admirable. What about all the other years when his decisions cost us the series? EDIT: Plus, Hinch must take a lot of responsibility for allowing the cheating to persist. The fact that Hinch did not take control of that situation gives him a black mark that he can never recover from. He is the perfect bench coach. Dusty just does stupid stuff all the time and gets away with it because the team has so much talent. I guess it is possible that he is some sort of mad genius that constantly puts people into the wrong situations as a way of challenging them to over come their shortcomings, or perhaps he is just a dumbass that does stupid stuff and gets away with it. My opinion is obvious. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 14, 2022 9:33:40 GMT -6
Dierk's 2-12 record managing in the postseason makes it difficult for me to agree with everyone including him in these discussions
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 14, 2022 10:46:52 GMT -6
Dierk's 2-12 record managing in the postseason makes it difficult for me to agree with everyone including him in these discussions The record was bad but so was the hitting. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 14, 2022 11:09:22 GMT -6
Dierk's 2-12 record managing in the postseason makes it difficult for me to agree with everyone including him in these discussions I'm with Sherwin.... His managing decisions weren't bad, his hitters just didn't hit. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Aug 15, 2022 11:38:05 GMT -6
At this point, it would take something crazy happening for the Astros to not get one of the first-round byes. With the final regular season game being on October 5th, this would mean five days off until the first Division Series game on October 11th.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 15, 2022 11:46:08 GMT -6
At this point, it would take something crazy happening for the Astros to not get one of the first-round byes. With the final regular season game being on October 5th, this would mean five days off until the first Division Series game on October 11th. Yes, the Astros and the Yankees should get first round byes. I'm just hoping the Yankees have to face the Blue Jays in the second round.... I have a feeling this is going to be our road to the WS: Toronto, New York and LA. Outside of Chicago and Bay area probably missing the playoffs, MLB most be in heaven for all the big market teams that are playoff bound. |
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