|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 22, 2022 19:51:31 GMT -6
Blah! Sucks but we are still having a really good september. Still at 99 wins. Let’s not forget that. Easier to handle losses where you never had a chance. Even though Dubón got a hit, he probably has the least value of any position player on the team.
|
|
|
Post by kyledriver1980 on Sept 22, 2022 20:04:21 GMT -6
Blah! Sucks but we are still having a really good september. Still at 99 wins. Let’s not forget that. Easier to handle losses where you never had a chance. Even though Dubón got a hit, he probably has the least value of any position player on the team. Totally. More disappointed in Bregman, Tucker, Alvarez for this loss. Pitching was good but the hitting did absolutely nothing. Saint is right. Your offense becomes incredibly worse when your best hitter and a top 5 MLB hitter is out of the lineup in Altuve.
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 22, 2022 20:05:22 GMT -6
I don't know. I don't feel like we do enough to defend our hitters sometimes. Are we on the same page about something? What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosity
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 22, 2022 20:52:21 GMT -6
Are we on the same page about something? What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosityProbably Peña. He has high defensive metrics, but I constantly see balls getting past him. But if the numbers say he’s great, how can you argue?
|
|
|
Post by olpapa on Sept 22, 2022 21:31:33 GMT -6
Mariners won. Rays beat the Jays. 1 game in the loss column separating the three teams.
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 23, 2022 4:11:50 GMT -6
What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosity Probably Peña. He has high defensive metrics, but I constantly see balls getting past him. But if the numbers say he’s great, how can you argue? I think you like Peña. You just consider him a bit of a downgrade, which is understandable considering who he replaced. What I don't get about Correa, since he's so awesome and all, is why the staff never had a sub-3 ERA all the years he was shortstop. If it's cause everyone kicked themselves in the butt knowing they'd have to step up on defense to make up for him being gone, A+ to the team and manager for the effort and results
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 23, 2022 4:27:58 GMT -6
That being said, Bregman has played in so many games this year and so tough with the effort, I'm concerned he's gonna struggle at the plate after the first round like he usually does cause his tank is on fumes
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2022 7:25:59 GMT -6
Are we on the same page about something? What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosityHe's harder on every player than I am, outside of Altuve. I also think Click has done a good job.
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2022 7:33:55 GMT -6
That being said, Bregman has played in so many games this year and so tough with the effort, I'm concerned he's gonna struggle at the plate after the first round like he usually does cause his tank is on fumes Unlike in previous years though, they're going to get a nice 3-4 day break to rest and refuel before the ALDS. Maybe even more depending on what Dusty does with resting guys. It's virtually impossible for us to go into this offseason better prepared than we are this year. (Other than not having a healthy Brantley with us.) I don't worry about this team "losing their momentum" with a few days off. These guys have been preparing for the postseason all regular season long for the last few years. Just like in 2020 when things were at their lowest... They got into the postseason and it was a different team. I think they're going to rest up, and come into the ALDS on absolute fire. And one thing I will give Dusty credit for is his resting players. I haven't always liked WHEN he rested players or how he formed his lineup when resting veterans (like having Pena hit leadoff when Altuve is out...), but the fact that he has rested guys will help. Whereas in 2017-2019 Bregman played in 155 or more games each season, I doubt he'll get past even 150 this year. Those extra 5 or so games rested (plus he got a full all-star break) on top of the WC round days off, will make a difference for him. I hope...
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 23, 2022 8:03:01 GMT -6
That being said, Bregman has played in so many games this year and so tough with the effort, I'm concerned he's gonna struggle at the plate after the first round like he usually does cause his tank is on fumes I think they're going to rest up, and come into the ALDS on absolute fire. Like I said, Breggy doesn't have a problem with the first round. It's after that he disappoints in the batters box
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2022 8:14:27 GMT -6
I think they're going to rest up, and come into the ALDS on absolute fire. Like I said, Breggy doesn't have a problem with the first round. It's after that he disappoints in the batters boxYeah, but he's had some big moments. Just not as consistent. I still remember in 2018 when Benintendi robbed him of a potential game-winning hit in Fenway. I can't remember which game it was...
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 23, 2022 8:21:16 GMT -6
What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosity He's harder on every player than I am, outside of Altuve. I also think Click has done a good job. I think everyone agrees with Sherwin to some degree, but there's no real disagreement. But that's just one observation
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 23, 2022 8:49:35 GMT -6
Are we on the same page about something? What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosityTop or bottom.
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 23, 2022 8:51:20 GMT -6
Sherwin is the most fickle and emotional fan I've ever met.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 9:17:57 GMT -6
Probably Peña. He has high defensive metrics, but I constantly see balls getting past him. But if the numbers say he’s great, how can you argue? I think you like Peña. You just consider him a bit of a downgrade, which is understandable considering who he replaced. What I don't get about Correa, since he's so awesome and all, is why the staff never had a sub-3 ERA all the years he was shortstop. If it's cause everyone kicked themselves in the butt knowing they'd have to step up on defense to make up for him being gone, A+ to the team and manager for the effort and results I liked Correa a lot but he typically was a lazy fielder who leaned too much on his arm. He turned a corner with that the past couple of years. Peña to me is good at catching liners and making plays hit right to him, but it all gets sketchy when he has to range. He can definitely be better than Carlos, including with his throws (accuracy), but there’s some kind of confidence block on defense. This is just how I see it as I don’t have the numbers to back it up. I like Peña because he is an Astro, but I never bought the “we’re just as good at shortstop” argument that the team forced upon the fans. A lot of fans get me to stick up for Carlos because they vilify him for leaving the team. Name one person who would refuse a sizable increase in pay elsewhere in order to stay at their current job. I find it ironic that Springer is beloved while doing the exact same thing. In defending Carlos, I don’t hate Peña just like I don’t hate our crappy CF’s because Springer is gone. I root for Peña and hope he fixes the slider issue at the plate and hammers out his throwing issues, which he’s improved on the past couple weeks.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 9:20:55 GMT -6
Sherwin is the most fickle and emotional fan I've ever met. I can stay on your lawn if I want, pops.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 9:23:13 GMT -6
What do y'all disagree on, out of curiosity He's harder on every player than I am, outside of Altuve. I also think Click has done a good job. I generally believe in most of the players, though. Unless it’s Dubón. Get off my team.
|
|
|
Post by thomasj13 on Sept 23, 2022 11:18:36 GMT -6
He's harder on every player than I am, outside of Altuve. I also think Click has done a good job. I generally believe in most of the players, though. Unless it’s Dubón. Get off my team. Dubon, the NH killer?
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2022 11:27:52 GMT -6
Dubon does not have the arm for the OF... I think he is a good athlete with plenty of range and good reflexes, but his arm sucks and his hitting is awful. I sure wish they would give Hensley more of a chance.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 11:59:29 GMT -6
Dubon does not have the arm for the OF... I think he is a good athlete with plenty of range and good reflexes, but his arm sucks and his hitting is awful. I sure wish they would give Hensley more of a chance. He’s just a guy who tries. If that’s all they want in CF, then they have low aspirations.
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2022 12:13:57 GMT -6
Dubon does not have the arm for the OF... I think he is a good athlete with plenty of range and good reflexes, but his arm sucks and his hitting is awful. I sure wish they would give Hensley more of a chance. He’s just a guy who tries. If that’s all they want in CF, then they have low aspirations. Hopefully Leon gets a shot next season and runs away with it.
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 23, 2022 14:35:25 GMT -6
I think you like Peña. You just consider him a bit of a downgrade, which is understandable considering who he replaced. What I don't get about Correa, since he's so awesome and all, is why the staff never had a sub-3 ERA all the years he was shortstop. If it's cause everyone kicked themselves in the butt knowing they'd have to step up on defense to make up for him being gone, A+ to the team and manager for the effort and results A lot of fans get me to stick up for Carlos because they vilify him for leaving the team. Name one person who would refuse a sizable increase in pay elsewhere in order to stay at their current job. Carlos was vilified cause folks thought he wanted too much after logging 500 ABs in only half the seasons he played with us, and maybe a little for not hitting as well as Altuve in the WS. When he left the team it was more bye Felicia, no hard feelings
|
|
|
Post by thomasj13 on Sept 23, 2022 14:37:51 GMT -6
A lot of fans get me to stick up for Carlos because they vilify him for leaving the team. Name one person who would refuse a sizable increase in pay elsewhere in order to stay at their current job. Carlos was vilified cause folks thought he wanted too much after logging 500 ABs in only half the seasons he played with us, and maybe a little for not hitting as well as Altuve in the WS. When he left the team it was more bye Felicia, no hard feelingsJose Ramirez
|
|
|
Post by Saint on Sept 23, 2022 14:39:37 GMT -6
I didn't have an issue with Correa until it seemed he was trying to make last year's postseason about himself with the "it's my time" BS. It's your time in Minnesota, alright. Sitting on your $35 million couch.
Correa is one of those players that you like when he's on your team, but hate when he isn't. Kind of like Charles Barkley.
|
|
|
Post by bearbryant on Sept 23, 2022 14:44:13 GMT -6
Dubon does not have the arm for the OF... I think he is a good athlete with plenty of range and good reflexes, but his arm sucks and his hitting is awful. I sure wish they would give Hensley more of a chance. Dubón is an infielder. So is Díaz. I don't get why the regular OF isn't Trey-Chas-Kyle
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 15:30:05 GMT -6
A lot of fans get me to stick up for Carlos because they vilify him for leaving the team. Name one person who would refuse a sizable increase in pay elsewhere in order to stay at their current job. Carlos was vilified cause folks thought he wanted too much after logging 500 ABs in only half the seasons he played with us, and maybe a little for not hitting as well as Altuve in the WS. When he left the team it was more bye Felicia, no hard feelingsEven that type of reaction is understandable. I just don’t like the mean-spirited stuff as if he betrayed the team like Mike Fiers. Dude just wanted to be paid like a Platinum Glove SS with 25 bombs. Can’t blame him.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 15:31:47 GMT -6
I didn't have an issue with Correa until it seemed he was trying to make last year's postseason about himself with the "it's my time" BS. It's your time in Minnesota, alright. Sitting on your $35 million couch. Correa is one of those players that you like when he's on your team, but hate when he isn't. Kind of like Charles Barkley. Yeah, but Charles would be attacking fans in bars. Different type of attitude there. What has Correa done in Minnesota to warrant your hatred?
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 15:32:43 GMT -6
Carlos was vilified cause folks thought he wanted too much after logging 500 ABs in only half the seasons he played with us, and maybe a little for not hitting as well as Altuve in the WS. When he left the team it was more bye Felicia, no hard feelings Jose Ramirez He’s a dying breed. Players generally leave for greener pastures if given the chance. I was crushed when Springer left, but we all moved on wishing him well.
|
|
|
Post by unionstation82 on Sept 23, 2022 15:34:34 GMT -6
Dubon does not have the arm for the OF... I think he is a good athlete with plenty of range and good reflexes, but his arm sucks and his hitting is awful. I sure wish they would give Hensley more of a chance. Dubón is an infielder. So is Díaz. I don't get why the regular OF isn't Trey-Chas-KyleChas would be easier to watch if he could hit an inside pitch.
|
|
|
Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 23, 2022 16:06:30 GMT -6
Carlos was vilified cause folks thought he wanted too much after logging 500 ABs in only half the seasons he played with us, and maybe a little for not hitting as well as Altuve in the WS. When he left the team it was more bye Felicia, no hard feelings Even that type of reaction is understandable. I just don’t like the mean-spirited stuff as if he betrayed the team like Mike Fiers. Dude just wanted to be paid like a Platinum Glove SS with 25 bombs. Can’t blame him. No. He wanted to be paid like Mike Trout.
|
|