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Post by Saint on Oct 24, 2022 13:28:08 GMT -6
Mostly I'm bored, but I put together this comparison for fun. This is thru their age-28 seasons:
Bregman (7 Seasons - 805 Games):
140 HR
818 Hits
207 Doubles
490 RBI
512 Runs
440 BB
36 SB
137 OPS+
30.5 WAR
2 AS
1 SS
1 MVP Runner-Up (Should have won)
1 Title (Maybe 2)
4 Pennants
Bagwell (6 Seasons - 846 Games):
144 HR
950 Hits
206 Doubles
589 RBI
545 Runs
500 BB
78 SB
158 OPS+
35.5 WAR
2 AS
1 SS
1 GG
1 MVP
No postseasons.
Obviously Bagwell was a better hitter percentage-wise by a good margin, but considering he had 40 more Games, their counting stats are really quite similar. And since Bregman is doing it while playing a tougher defensive position, their WAR totals aren't far off. I'll be curious to see if Bregman starts trying to add some base stealing back to his repertoire, or if he is too concerned with aggravating the hamstring injury again.
We focus on Altuve's HoF case (as well we should), but Bregman isn't too far off pace if his health concerns are now a thing of the past.
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Post by unionstation82 on Oct 24, 2022 15:13:43 GMT -6
Boy, don’t start.
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Post by Saint on Oct 24, 2022 15:23:34 GMT -6
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Post by m240 on Oct 25, 2022 6:08:50 GMT -6
The comparison is interesting for a lot of reasons. One of which is that most teams that have been as dominate as the Astros have been for so long usually have several mvps that eventually get elected. Obviously Verlander makes it and it sure looks like Altuve makes it but right now the only other candidate is Bregman. Alvarez is dominate but injury prone. Tucker just will never be a guy who hits for a high average. If Correa was as good as he thought he was then he would make it, but of course he is not. So Bregman is really the next best candidate.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 25, 2022 6:19:05 GMT -6
The comparison is interesting for a lot of reasons. One of which is that most teams that have been as dominate as the Astros have been for so long usually have several mvps that eventually get elected. Obviously Verlander makes it and it sure looks like Altuve makes it but right now the only other candidate is Bregman. Alvarez is dominate but injury prone. Tucker just will never be a guy who hits for a high average. If Correa was as good as he thought he was then he would make it, but of course he is not. So Bregman is really the next best candidate. Current player ranking in order, on adding on their current stats with great/MVP seasons, so they make the HOF: 1. Verlander 2. Altuve 3. Alvarez 4. Bregman 5. Tucker 6. Valdez 7. Pena |
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Post by m240 on Oct 25, 2022 7:34:22 GMT -6
The comparison is interesting for a lot of reasons. One of which is that most teams that have been as dominate as the Astros have been for so long usually have several mvps that eventually get elected. Obviously Verlander makes it and it sure looks like Altuve makes it but right now the only other candidate is Bregman. Alvarez is dominate but injury prone. Tucker just will never be a guy who hits for a high average. If Correa was as good as he thought he was then he would make it, but of course he is not. So Bregman is really the next best candidate. Current player ranking in order, on adding on their current stats with great/MVP seasons, so they make the HOF: 1. Verlander 2. Altuve 3. Alvarez 4. Bregman 5. Tucker 6. Valdez 7. Pena Your rankings seems about right. The thing with Alvarez is that he is dominate when healthy. His problem is that his knees will eventually betray him as his couning stats have to be stellar given his defensive shortcomings. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 25, 2022 8:37:56 GMT -6
The comparison is interesting for a lot of reasons. One of which is that most teams that have been as dominate as the Astros have been for so long usually have several mvps that eventually get elected. Obviously Verlander makes it and it sure looks like Altuve makes it but right now the only other candidate is Bregman. Alvarez is dominate but injury prone. Tucker just will never be a guy who hits for a high average. If Correa was as good as he thought he was then he would make it, but of course he is not. So Bregman is really the next best candidate. Springer and Correa both have/had the talent, but health and inconsistency have hurt them. They just aren't going to end up putting up the counting totals the voters like. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 25, 2022 9:26:21 GMT -6
Dominant.
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 25, 2022 12:53:45 GMT -6
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Oct 25, 2022 13:12:06 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Oct 25, 2022 13:14:54 GMT -6
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Post by bearbryant on Oct 25, 2022 15:26:44 GMT -6
WTG Breggy
ALCS OPS 2017 .468
2018 .658 2019 .645
2020 .343
2021 .656
2022 .975
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Post by surfintexas on Oct 30, 2022 21:56:11 GMT -6
Bregman is a much better clutch hitter imo.
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Post by olpapa on Oct 31, 2022 5:49:52 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Oct 31, 2022 5:54:16 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Oct 31, 2022 5:58:58 GMT -6
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