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Post by Saint on Nov 2, 2022 21:44:50 GMT -6
Okay, JV. The stage is set. Redemption time.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 2, 2022 21:49:04 GMT -6
Let's Go Astros!!!
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Post by surfintexas on Nov 2, 2022 22:09:16 GMT -6
Id consider moving Framber up. I think we'd have a better shot winning and hope Verlander or McCullers can steal a win at home.
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Post by Saint on Nov 2, 2022 22:36:16 GMT -6
I think JV goes 5 IP with 1 Run tomorrow. We hit a couple HRs and the series comes back to Houston with us up 3-2.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 2, 2022 23:03:33 GMT -6
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think Trey is due.
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Post by dafish on Nov 2, 2022 23:15:33 GMT -6
Triple Props to all our Bad Ass Latin Pitchers.
It's the white boys like JV and LMJ who have choked.!!!!!!!!
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Nov 3, 2022 7:15:47 GMT -6
WS Game 5! LFG! Win win win! Go back to Houston only needing to win 1!
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 7:29:08 GMT -6
I feel like their hitters will come out very aggressive today.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 7:35:39 GMT -6
I know he isn't going to do it, but I'd love to see Dusty stick with the same lineup but with Hensley DHing and Yordan in LF. Let Vazquez catch again and bat 7th. Let Chas hit 9th in front of Jose. Don't mess with a good thing. I can't imagine that he will continue to put Diaz in the lineup, but he's already done it more than I expected. Vazquez caught a great game (those stolen bases were off of Javier) and contributed offensively. Leave him in there.
Ride the hot hand, momentum, whatever.
Come the 4th or 5th inning, whether in trouble or not, have Brown or somebody warming up ready to go. We can't let them get their confidence back.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 7:43:06 GMT -6
Also, this has been an interesting World Series in that no one person has really stood out as the MVP of the series so far. Every game there has been a different guy or two who has had a great game:
Game 1: Tucker Game 2: Framber/Altuve Game 3: Nobody really. Chas, I guess. Game 4: Javier
Tucker maybe overall so far, 4/13 2 HR and 5 RBI. If they manage to win it all, it could very well end up a pitcher if Framber or Javier have another good outing.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2022 8:03:50 GMT -6
Also, this has been an interesting World Series in that no one person has really stood out as the MVP of the series so far. Every game there has been a different guy or two who has had a great game: Game 1: Tucker Game 2: Framber/Altuve Game 3: Nobody really. Chas, I guess. Game 4: Javier Tucker maybe overall so far, 4/13 2 HR and 5 RBI. If they manage to win it all, it could very well end up a pitcher if Framber or Javier have another good outing. Our pen needs to share the MVP.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 8:08:16 GMT -6
Also, this has been an interesting World Series in that no one person has really stood out as the MVP of the series so far. Every game there has been a different guy or two who has had a great game: Game 1: Tucker Game 2: Framber/Altuve Game 3: Nobody really. Chas, I guess. Game 4: Javier Tucker maybe overall so far, 4/13 2 HR and 5 RBI. If they manage to win it all, it could very well end up a pitcher if Framber or Javier have another good outing. Our pen needs to share the MVP. Yeah, the combination of Abreu, Neris, Montero, and Pressly especially.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2022 8:37:17 GMT -6
I have believed in Verlander for years. Tonight will be his night. Put a ! on your storied career, sir. Go Stros!
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Post by olpapa on Nov 3, 2022 8:51:35 GMT -6
I have believed in Verlander for years. Tonight will be his night. Put a ! on your storied career, sir. Go Stros! If Verlander can’t come out and dominate tonight after witnessing Javier’s start last night, there is something wrong with him. JV stunk the place up in his first postseason start this season, giving up 6 earned runs on 10 hits in just 4 innings against Seattle. He followed thst up with 6 IP, 3 hits, 1 ER and 11 K’s in his next start vs NYY. He CAN dominate vs Philadelphia tonight. Of course “can” doesn’t mean squat. He has got to get the job done on the field. Hopefully he doesn’t choke again tonight.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 8:58:46 GMT -6
I'm wondering if his age is starting to show. He had some rocky postseasons his first couple postseasons with Detroit, but he has mostly been solid to good in all the rest until this year (counting all the rounds). But this year with even struggling in the ALDS, he has the worst postseason ERA of his career at 7.20.
You have to wonder if some of it is just some fatigue or dead arm setting in. He kicked their asses the first three innings, and then immediately lost it. To me, if they can get a few good innings out of him, they need to be on high alert as soon as he starts allowing some traffic.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 9:12:17 GMT -6
Our bullpen this postseason:
Pressly: 8.1 IP 4/4 Saves 0 ER 11 K 0 BB 3 Hits Abreu: 9.2 IP 0 ER 16 K 4 BB 4 Hits Montero: 9 IP 1 ER 9 K 4 BB 4 Hits Neris: 4.1 IP 2 Wins 1 ER 6 K 0 BB 1 Hit Stanek: 3 IP 0 ER 6 K 1 BB 0 Hits Urquidy: 3 IP 0 ER 4 K 1 BB 1 Hit Garcia: 5.2 IP 1 ER 6 K 0 BB 2 Hits Brown: 3.2 IP 0 ER 1 K 3 BB 2 Hits
46.2 Innings 3 ER 59 K 13 BB 17 Hits
That's 30 baserunners in almost 47 innings with 59 Ks. Unbelievable.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 3, 2022 9:20:06 GMT -6
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think Trey is due. Overdue, and owes the librarian a 20 cent fine.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 3, 2022 9:23:18 GMT -6
I have believed in Verlander for years. Tonight will be his night. Put a ! on your storied career, sir. Go Stros! He goes 6, maybe 7 tonight
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Post by olpapa on Nov 3, 2022 9:35:49 GMT -6
I'm wondering if his age is starting to show. He had some rocky postseasons his first couple postseasons with Detroit, but he has mostly been solid to good in all the rest until this year (counting all the rounds). But this year with even struggling in the ALDS, he has the worst postseason ERA of his career at 7.20. You have to wonder if some of it is just some fatigue or dead arm setting in. He kicked their asses the first three innings, and then immediately lost it. To me, if they can get a few good innings out of him, they need to be on high alert as soon as he starts allowing some traffic. Enough with the leaving starters in until the game has been lost because the starter is one of the guys. As soon as JV shows signs of getting into trouble Dusty needs to have someone up in the bullpen. If he can’t pitch his way out of trouble immediately, yank him.
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Post by olpapa on Nov 3, 2022 9:38:30 GMT -6
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think Trey is due. I have no trouble believing you are saying it. Mancini is way past due and has been since at least the ALDS.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 3, 2022 9:44:19 GMT -6
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think Trey is due. I have no trouble believing you are saying it. Mancini is way past due and has been since at least the ALDS. I’m done with Díaz. It’s an open audition now.
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Post by olpapa on Nov 3, 2022 10:00:07 GMT -6
I know he isn't going to do it, but I'd love to see Dusty stick with the same lineup but with Hensley DHing and Yordan in LF. Let Vazquez catch again and bat 7th. Let Chas hit 9th in front of Jose. Don't mess with a good thing. I can't imagine that he will continue to put Diaz in the lineup, but he's already done it more than I expected. Vazquez caught a great game (those stolen bases were off of Javier) and contributed offensively. Leave him in there. Ride the hot hand, momentum, whatever. Come the 4th or 5th inning, whether in trouble or not, have Brown or somebody warming up ready to go. We can't let them get their confidence back. 2022 Postseason numbers: Hensley- PA 5, H 1, HBP 1, OBP .400, P/PA 5.80 Diaz - PA 23, H 1, HBP 1, OBP .087, P/PA 3.87 Mancini- PA 20, H 0, HBP 1, BB 1, OBP .100, P/PA 3.95 Regardless of these numbers, I will be shocked if either Diaz or Mancini is not DHing or in LF with Yordan DHing.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 10:11:38 GMT -6
I know he isn't going to do it, but I'd love to see Dusty stick with the same lineup but with Hensley DHing and Yordan in LF. Let Vazquez catch again and bat 7th. Let Chas hit 9th in front of Jose. Don't mess with a good thing. I can't imagine that he will continue to put Diaz in the lineup, but he's already done it more than I expected. Vazquez caught a great game (those stolen bases were off of Javier) and contributed offensively. Leave him in there. Ride the hot hand, momentum, whatever. Come the 4th or 5th inning, whether in trouble or not, have Brown or somebody warming up ready to go. We can't let them get their confidence back. 2022 Postseason numbers: Hensley- PA 5, H 1, HBP 1, OBP .400, P/PA 5.80 Diaz - PA 23, H 1, HBP 1, OBP .087, P/PA 3.87 Mancini- PA 20, H 0, HBP 1, BB 1, OBP .100, P/PA 3.95 Regardless of these numbers, I will be shocked if either Diaz or Mancini is not DHing or in LF with Yordan DHing. I agree. I've come to terms with it even though I don't understand it. Even though I have no reason to, I have more faith in Mancini than Diaz. Maybe just because Mancini has a track record of being a good hitter even if he hasn't with us.
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 3, 2022 10:22:57 GMT -6
I'm wondering if his age is starting to show. He had some rocky postseasons his first couple postseasons with Detroit, but he has mostly been solid to good in all the rest until this year (counting all the rounds). But this year with even struggling in the ALDS, he has the worst postseason ERA of his career at 7.20. You have to wonder if some of it is just some fatigue or dead arm setting in. He kicked their asses the first three innings, and then immediately lost it. To me, if they can get a few good innings out of him, they need to be on high alert as soon as he starts allowing some traffic. I'm not sure why Justin's legs got tired after the 3rd inning, but he could learn a thing or two from Javier about keeping his heart rate down
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2022 10:44:29 GMT -6
Id consider moving Framber up. I think we'd have a better shot winning and hope Verlander or McCullers can steal a win at home. Will never happen, but I don't hate the idea. Framber vs. Syndergaard is definitely a favorable matchup for us. But JV tends to be a guy that bounces back from bad starts the next game. If we get five innings, 2 ER from him, that really should be enough.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2022 10:49:21 GMT -6
2022 Postseason numbers: Hensley- PA 5, H 1, HBP 1, OBP .400, P/PA 5.80 Diaz - PA 23, H 1, HBP 1, OBP .087, P/PA 3.87 Mancini- PA 20, H 0, HBP 1, BB 1, OBP .100, P/PA 3.95 Regardless of these numbers, I will be shocked if either Diaz or Mancini is not DHing or in LF with Yordan DHing. I agree. I've come to terms with it even though I don't understand it. Even though I have no reason to, I have more faith in Mancini than Diaz. Maybe just because Mancini has a track record of being a good hitter even if he hasn't with us. Or maybe RACIST. Really, it's just classic Dusty being a player's manager. Those guys are vets, and he's always thinking they're about to break out, no matter how awful they look at the plate. All that said, at least Diaz had some competent-looking ABs last night. Mancini looks like a guy who was just called up from A-ball and has never faced a big league pitcher before, utterly overmatched and lost. But it should be Hensley. His Javier-esque poise given his age/experience compared to the situation he's in should be enough by itself to give him the edge.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 10:53:45 GMT -6
I'm wondering if his age is starting to show. He had some rocky postseasons his first couple postseasons with Detroit, but he has mostly been solid to good in all the rest until this year (counting all the rounds). But this year with even struggling in the ALDS, he has the worst postseason ERA of his career at 7.20. You have to wonder if some of it is just some fatigue or dead arm setting in. He kicked their asses the first three innings, and then immediately lost it. To me, if they can get a few good innings out of him, they need to be on high alert as soon as he starts allowing some traffic. I'm not sure why Justin's legs got tired after the 3rd inning, but he could learn a thing or two from Javier about keeping his heart rate down He could learn a lot from Javier, period, right now.
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2022 10:53:55 GMT -6
Also, this has been an interesting World Series in that no one person has really stood out as the MVP of the series so far. Every game there has been a different guy or two who has had a great game: Game 1: Tucker Game 2: Framber/Altuve Game 3: Nobody really. Chas, I guess. Game 4: Javier Tucker maybe overall so far, 4/13 2 HR and 5 RBI. If they manage to win it all, it could very well end up a pitcher if Framber or Javier have another good outing. If we win, Framber is the front runner since he's guaranteed another start; Javier at best would come out of the pen in a GM7. We lost the Tucker game, and if Framber has one more good start and we clinch in GM6 and none of the hitters individually go bananas, it's his. If it goes to GM7 then Javier will have another shot coming out of the bullpen but even then would probably have less innings than Framber.
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 10:57:19 GMT -6
I agree. I've come to terms with it even though I don't understand it. Even though I have no reason to, I have more faith in Mancini than Diaz. Maybe just because Mancini has a track record of being a good hitter even if he hasn't with us. Or maybe RACIST. Really, it's just classic Dusty being a player's manager. Those guys are vets, and he's always thinking they're about to break out, no matter how awful they look at the plate. All that said, at least Diaz had some competent-looking ABs last night. Mancini looks like a guy who was just called up from A-ball and has never faced a big league pitcher before, utterly overmatched and lost. But it should be Hensley. His Javier-esque poise given his age/experience compared to the situation he's in should be enough by itself to give him the edge. I'm not sure what your definition of competent is, but he went 0-4 with 3 Ks last night...
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Post by Saint on Nov 3, 2022 10:58:35 GMT -6
Also, this has been an interesting World Series in that no one person has really stood out as the MVP of the series so far. Every game there has been a different guy or two who has had a great game: Game 1: Tucker Game 2: Framber/Altuve Game 3: Nobody really. Chas, I guess. Game 4: Javier Tucker maybe overall so far, 4/13 2 HR and 5 RBI. If they manage to win it all, it could very well end up a pitcher if Framber or Javier have another good outing. If we win, Framber is the front runner since he's guaranteed another start; Javier at best would come out of the pen in a GM7. We lost the Tucker game, and if Framber has one more good start and we clinch in GM6 and none of the hitters individually go bananas, it's his. If it goes to GM7 then Javier will have another shot coming out of the bullpen but even then would probably have less innings than Framber. Yeah I would agree. A position player needs to really light up the next couple of games if they want a chance. Tucker is the closest, imo.
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