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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 12, 2023 20:03:19 GMT -6
The purpose of my defending a manager I don’t like is to reduce the negative comments about Dusty from 100% to maybe 98%. I can't find a post here where you defended him recently. I could be remiss, but I would've remembered that I can’t remember exactly what I said. I think it was something about him not sucking always. That’s all it takes to be considered a defender. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 12, 2023 20:40:02 GMT -6
I can't find a post here where you defended him recently. I could be remiss, but I would've remembered that I can’t remember exactly what I said. I think it was something about him not sucking always. That’s all it takes to be considered a defender. I was thinking more example where he managed something during the game, and it was a defensible move. He hasn't done much to warrant that this season, even though he's good at other things like pre-game prep |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 5:35:50 GMT -6
I can’t remember exactly what I said. I think it was something about him not sucking always. That’s all it takes to be considered a defender. I was thinking more example where he managed something during the game, and it was a defensible move. He hasn't done much to warrant that this season, even though he's good at other things like pre-game prep Well, he hasn’t had many moves worth defending this season because of the overuse of Maldy and the inability to PH/PR for him late in games, but it’s obvious that people don’t like the guy just because they don’t like him. Generally, when they lose, he gets a lot of heat when his players simply don’t do their jobs. Bregman could go 0/4 and leave 7 runners stranded, and the focus will be on something like Maldy striking out with no one on base. Last season, the man managed a championship while basically pushing all the right buttons. He managed an 18-inning game and got them to a 1-0 win. His two postseason losses were Verlander choking away a 5-0 lead (he also had sucked for Hinch and Leyland previously) and McCullers doing his usual thing. Dusty can’t be faulted for good starting pitchers being expected to give you at least 5 innings and failing. We all liked Hinch more, but I don’t recall him doing as well in a postseason. The narrative is that when they lose it’s because of him and when they don’t it’s in spite of him because they think a trained monkey can do as good of a job. It just gets old and I can’t wait for him to not be the skipper anymore so I don’t have to be hit over the head over how bad he is. Let’s keep in mind that Hinch blew two devastating heartbreaking gut-punch postseason games (versus the Royals and Nationals) because he handed the game off to his son, Will Harris, but everyone wants to conveniently forget about that. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 13, 2023 6:02:01 GMT -6
I was thinking more example where he managed something during the game, and it was a defensible move. He hasn't done much to warrant that this season, even though he's good at other things like pre-game prep Well, he hasn’t had many moves worth defending this season because of the overuse of Maldy and the inability to PH/PR for him late in games, but it’s obvious that people don’t like the guy just because they don’t like him. Generally, when they lose, he gets a lot of heat when his players simply don’t do their jobs. Bregman could go 0/4 and leave 7 runners stranded, and the focus will be on something like Maldy striking out with no one on base. Last season, the man managed a championship while basically pushing all the right buttons. He managed an 18-inning game and got them to a 1-0 win. His two postseason losses were Verlander choking away a 5-0 lead (he also had sucked for Hinch and Leyland previously) and McCullers doing his usual thing. Dusty can’t be faulted for good starting pitchers being expected to give you at least 5 innings and failing. We all liked Hinch more, but I don’t recall him doing as well in a postseason. The narrative is that when they lose it’s because of him and when they don’t it’s in spite of him because they think a trained monkey can do as good of a job. It just gets old and I can’t wait for him to not be the skipper anymore so I don’t have to be hit over the head over how bad he is. Let’s keep in mind that Hinch blew two devastating heartbreaking gut-punch postseason games (versus the Royals and Nationals) because he handed the game off to his son, Will Harris, but everyone wants to conveniently forget about that. Everything you have said is true. Plus, Baker > Hinch. I was not a Hinch fan. Luhnow > Hunsicker > Click>>>>>>>Purpura>Wade.:.we will see where Brown falls, but surely better than Purpura |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 6:11:35 GMT -6
Well, he hasn’t had many moves worth defending this season because of the overuse of Maldy and the inability to PH/PR for him late in games, but it’s obvious that people don’t like the guy just because they don’t like him. Generally, when they lose, he gets a lot of heat when his players simply don’t do their jobs. Bregman could go 0/4 and leave 7 runners stranded, and the focus will be on something like Maldy striking out with no one on base. Last season, the man managed a championship while basically pushing all the right buttons. He managed an 18-inning game and got them to a 1-0 win. His two postseason losses were Verlander choking away a 5-0 lead (he also had sucked for Hinch and Leyland previously) and McCullers doing his usual thing. Dusty can’t be faulted for good starting pitchers being expected to give you at least 5 innings and failing. We all liked Hinch more, but I don’t recall him doing as well in a postseason. The narrative is that when they lose it’s because of him and when they don’t it’s in spite of him because they think a trained monkey can do as good of a job. It just gets old and I can’t wait for him to not be the skipper anymore so I don’t have to be hit over the head over how bad he is. Let’s keep in mind that Hinch blew two devastating heartbreaking gut-punch postseason games (versus the Royals and Nationals) because he handed the game off to his son, Will Harris, but everyone wants to conveniently forget about that. Everything you have said is true. Plus, Baker > Hinch. I was not a Hinch fan. Luhnow > Hunsicker > Click>>>>>>>Purpura>Wade.:.we will see where Brown falls, but surely better than Purpura My ideal manager would be someone at a level between the two. Dusty goes with his gut way too much, and Hinch was chained to his clipboard. You can’t ignore the stats, but you can’t be tied down by them either. I’m going to disagree about Dusty being better than Hinch, but he hasn’t been the totally inept and useless dumbass that most fans paint him to be either. If we stop looking at Hinch with nostalgia factored in, he definitely had his faults. I don’t think we’ll ever see a lineup as good as the ‘19 one again. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 13, 2023 6:22:59 GMT -6
Everything you have said is true. Plus, Baker > Hinch. I was not a Hinch fan. Luhnow > Hunsicker > Click>>>>>>>Purpura>Wade.:.we will see where Brown falls, but surely better than Purpura My ideal manager would be someone at a level between the two. Dusty goes with his gut way too much, and Hinch was chained to his clipboard. You can’t ignore the stats, but you can’t be tied down by them either. I’m going to disagree about Dusty being better than Hinch, but he hasn’t been the totally inept and useless dumbass that most fans paint him to be either. If we stop looking at Hinch with nostalgia factored in, he definitely had his faults. I don’t think we’ll ever see a lineup as good as the ‘19 one again. 2018 and 2019 were the best Astros teams off all time. Hinch literally lost the 2019 WS, will never forgive him for that. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 6:35:38 GMT -6
My ideal manager would be someone at a level between the two. Dusty goes with his gut way too much, and Hinch was chained to his clipboard. You can’t ignore the stats, but you can’t be tied down by them either. I’m going to disagree about Dusty being better than Hinch, but he hasn’t been the totally inept and useless dumbass that most fans paint him to be either. If we stop looking at Hinch with nostalgia factored in, he definitely had his faults. I don’t think we’ll ever see a lineup as good as the ‘19 one again. 2018 and 2019 were the best Astros teams off all time. Hinch literally lost the 2019 WS, will never forgive him for that. Me neither. The starting rotation in 2018 was insanely good: Verlander Cole Keuchel McCullers Morton |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 13, 2023 6:56:30 GMT -6
I was thinking more example where he managed something during the game, and it was a defensible move. He hasn't done much to warrant that this season, even though he's good at other things like pre-game prep Well, he hasn’t had many moves worth defending this season because of the overuse of Maldy and the inability to PH/PR for him late in games, but it’s obvious that people don’t like the guy just because they don’t like him. It's obvious people don't like him because he overuses Maldy and doesn't PH/PR for him late in games |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 13, 2023 9:12:10 GMT -6
And he has the most rested team in sports history.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 9:27:36 GMT -6
And he has the most rested team in sports history. Doesn’t seem to make a difference, though. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 13, 2023 10:59:47 GMT -6
I'll give some credit to Dusty in that he did well with the pitching management in the postseason last year. It helped that everybody was healthy and on fire, but he didn't over-manage the situation which some will do in the postseason. I'll also give him credit in that I think his presence did help some from a PR standpoint. (Not a TON...but some.)
All that being said, he should have went out on a high note.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 13, 2023 11:37:52 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 11:45:48 GMT -6
I'll give some credit to Dusty in that he did well with the pitching management in the postseason last year. It helped that everybody was healthy and on fire, but he didn't over-manage the situation which some will do in the postseason. I'll also give him credit in that I think his presence did help some from a PR standpoint. (Not a TON...but some.) All that being said, he should have went out on a high note. 100% |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 14:07:47 GMT -6
If someone would’ve told me after Urquidy hurt his shoulder that he would be on his way back before Brantley, I would’ve said that was fake news. |
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Jul 13, 2023 14:33:16 GMT -6
If someone would’ve told me after Urquidy hurt his shoulder that he would be on his way back before Brantley, I would’ve said that was fake news. When Urquidy is back in Houston, we have to go to a 6 man rotation for the remainder of the season. Framber, Javier, Urquidy, Brown, France, Bielak/Blanco. Then when Dana Brown makes a trade for a SP you slot him in Bielak/Blanco's spot. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 13, 2023 15:26:35 GMT -6
If someone would’ve told me after Urquidy hurt his shoulder that he would be on his way back before Brantley, I would’ve said that was fake news. When Urquidy is back in Houston, we have to go to a 6 man rotation for the remainder of the season. Framber, Javier, Urquidy, Brown, France, Bielak/Blanco. Then when Dana Brown makes a trade for a SP you slot him in Bielak/Blanco's spot. Blanco does nothing for me. Move him to the bullpen. I'm not saying Bielak is a lot better, but, outside of his rookie year, he has been a 4.07 ERA (104 ERA+) pitcher for us. If that 104 ERA+ is your worst starter in a 6-man rotation, you're doing pretty good. And, right now at least, he's statistically our 3rd best starter in 2023. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 13, 2023 15:35:31 GMT -6
When Urquidy is back in Houston, we have to go to a 6 man rotation for the remainder of the season. Framber, Javier, Urquidy, Brown, France, Bielak/Blanco. Then when Dana Brown makes a trade for a SP you slot him in Bielak/Blanco's spot. Blanco does nothing for me. Move him to the bullpen. I'm not saying Bielak is a lot better, but, outside of his rookie year, he has been a 4.07 ERA (104 ERA+) pitcher for us. If that 104 ERA+ is your worst starter in a 6-man rotation, you're doing pretty good. And, right now at least, he's statistically our 3rd best starter in 2023. Bielak is a lucky pitcher, lucky his stats are not horrific. His luck will run out. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 13, 2023 15:42:23 GMT -6
Blanco does nothing for me. Move him to the bullpen. I'm not saying Bielak is a lot better, but, outside of his rookie year, he has been a 4.07 ERA (104 ERA+) pitcher for us. If that 104 ERA+ is your worst starter in a 6-man rotation, you're doing pretty good. And, right now at least, he's statistically our 3rd best starter in 2023. Bielak is a lucky pitcher, lucky his stats are not horrific. His luck will run out. Possibly so. I'd still take him over Blanco right now. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 13, 2023 15:47:04 GMT -6
Bielak is a lucky pitcher, lucky his stats are not horrific. His luck will run out. Possibly so. I'd still take him over Blanco right now. I wouldn’t, but we will see who is right. Okay lefty? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 13, 2023 17:06:04 GMT -6
Bielak is a lucky pitcher, lucky his stats are not horrific. His luck will run out. Possibly so. I'd still take him over Blanco right now. Whoa, you’d take Bielak, who pitches like he’s 45, over Blanco? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2023 14:47:52 GMT -6
Possibly so. I'd still take him over Blanco right now. Whoa, you’d take Bielak, who pitches like he’s 45, over Blanco? Yes. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 14, 2023 18:14:32 GMT -6
Whoa, you’d take Bielak, who pitches like he’s 45, over Blanco? Yes. Todd is woke. He is all about the Bielak people, he hates Blanco people. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2023 18:58:19 GMT -6
Todd is woke. He is all about the Bielak people, he hates Blanco people. I knew he was effeminate. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 14, 2023 19:54:53 GMT -6
Todd is woke. He is all about the Bielak people, he hates Blanco people. I've gone Bielak.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 14, 2023 19:56:55 GMT -6
Todd is woke. He is all about the Bielak people, he hates Blanco people. I've gone Bielak.... Once you go…… |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 14, 2023 20:20:18 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 14, 2023 21:55:36 GMT -6
Not if credit be actin up |
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