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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 3, 2018 23:12:43 GMT -6
lmao, Saint's best friend is showing off for the national TV audience. I think Giles needs to be given the opportunity to show off in Fresno for a while. i had rather him show off for some other organization |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 3, 2018 23:15:02 GMT -6
Do you think Hinch is using Giles to hammer the point that this bullpen needs help? If Luhnow doesn’t realize that his closer sucks and his bullpen needs help, he’s the only person in America that can’t see the signs. Amen to that. We need at least two quality relievers. The ESPN crew named the two targets I'd go after. Herrera and Britton with Herrera being the main target. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 3, 2018 23:38:06 GMT -6
How can Altuve be stupid enough to take that fastball with two strikes.......unbelievable.  One thing we can count on tonight......if we get a chance at a big inning, Altuve and Correa will blow it. It doesn’t make sense. These guys on offense are hesitant to attack, and it’s being exploited by quite a few teams actually. I just can’t figure out what the hitting coach tells them. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 3, 2018 23:38:44 GMT -6
Do you think Hinch is using Giles to hammer the point that this bullpen needs help? If Luhnow doesn’t realize that his closer sucks and his bullpen needs help, he’s the only person in America that can’t see the signs. What would you do if you were Jeff Luhnow? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 3, 2018 23:48:12 GMT -6
If Luhnow doesn’t realize that his closer sucks and his bullpen needs help, he’s the only person in America that can’t see the signs. What would you do if you were Jeff Luhnow? Obviously, he needs to take Giles out of the closer role and trade for a real closer. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 4, 2018 2:12:22 GMT -6
For what it's worth, Herrera just picked up his 13th save of the season on June 2. no hits, no walks, 1 K, 3 outs recorded. a normal day at the office for him.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 4, 2018 4:07:14 GMT -6
Herrera isn't perfect, of course. He really only has two pitches (sound familiar?). He just is executing them better than Giles is (this year anyway).
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Post by olpapa on Jun 4, 2018 4:11:49 GMT -6
I think Giles needs to be given the opportunity to show off in Fresno for a while. Do you think Hinch is using Giles to hammer the point that this bullpen needs help? I don’t know whether he is or not, but when ESPN put the camera on Luhnow while Squatty was doing his thing, Jeff did not look to be pleased. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 4, 2018 7:50:41 GMT -6
I put this loss on stupid Morton, he is not the smartest pea in the pod to keep throwing the Bo Sox hanging cutters.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2018 7:58:02 GMT -6
I put this loss on stupid Morton, he is not the smartest pea in the pod to keep throwing the Bo Sox hanging cutters. LOL |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2018 7:59:22 GMT -6
For what it's worth, Herrera just picked up his 13th save of the season on June 2. no hits, no walks, 1 K, 3 outs recorded. a normal day at the office for him. The Royals are so much worse than the Astros, yet their closer has three more saves. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2018 8:02:51 GMT -6
What would you do if you were Jeff Luhnow? Obviously, he needs to take Giles out of the closer role and trade for a real closer. Not obvious to all... |
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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2018 8:17:21 GMT -6
A lot of focus on Giles.... He didn't give up 6 ER to put us behind, or hit pathetically in the middle of the order all game long.
Giles may not be good, but he didn't lose this game for us. A whole lot of other people failed too.
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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2018 8:21:56 GMT -6
Splits are fine if you win series against good teams with regularity, which the Astros do not. Winning 3 out of 4 to Boston would’ve made a statement, but this season has not shown that kind of success. "would’ve made a statement" To who? Do you think winning one more game would have made Boston think "errmergerd we're not that good anymore"? Or that the Astros would have some extra sway in their strut? The Astros players know they're good but struggling. They know they're on pace to almost an identical record to last year even with their inconsistency. As fans, we're way more frustrated than they are (with the exceptions of maybe Altuve and Verlander). |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 4, 2018 8:39:07 GMT -6
A lot of focus on Giles.... He didn't give up 6 ER to put us behind, or hit pathetically in the middle of the order all game long. Giles may not be good, but he didn't lose this game for us. A whole lot of other people failed too. LOL. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2018 9:31:08 GMT -6
A lot of focus on Giles.... He didn't give up 6 ER to put us behind, or hit pathetically in the middle of the order all game long. Giles may not be good, but he didn't lose this game for us. A whole lot of other people failed too. I think we agree that the offense is the biggest disappointment thus far, but Giles is another disappointment. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2018 9:35:07 GMT -6
Splits are fine if you win series against good teams with regularity, which the Astros do not. Winning 3 out of 4 to Boston would’ve made a statement, but this season has not shown that kind of success. "would’ve made a statement" To who? Do you think winning one more game would have made Boston think "errmergerd we're not that good anymore"? Or that the Astros would have some extra sway in their strut? The Astros players know they're good but struggling. They know they're on pace to almost an identical record to last year even with their inconsistency. As fans, we're way more frustrated than they are (with the exceptions of maybe Altuve and Verlander). I think the latter would’ve been more likely with the Astros having more sway in their strut. I don’t think that Boston is too worried with a split considering their best hitter didn’t play. If the Astros’ players aren’t more concerned than the fans, I’d be pretty worried because beating up on bad opponents and struggling against good ones isn’t good practice for the postseason. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 4, 2018 11:12:25 GMT -6
We had game three in this series won until Will Harris arrived to throw another round of batting practice. If Luhnow isn't on the phone trying to get a top reliever, he isn't doing his job
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Post by bannedfan on Jun 4, 2018 12:02:54 GMT -6
Giles is exactly what he was in the playoffs>>>not good enough. I doubt it changes much the rest of the season. Ditto for Will Harris.
Astros didn’t win the WS in 2017 because of the above 2 pitchers. Not dependable enough. Don’t fool yourself in to thinking they are.
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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2018 13:47:01 GMT -6
"would’ve made a statement" To who? Do you think winning one more game would have made Boston think "errmergerd we're not that good anymore"? Or that the Astros would have some extra sway in their strut? The Astros players know they're good but struggling. They know they're on pace to almost an identical record to last year even with their inconsistency. As fans, we're way more frustrated than they are (with the exceptions of maybe Altuve and Verlander). I think the latter would’ve been more likely with the Astros having more sway in their strut. I don’t think that Boston is too worried with a split considering their best hitter didn’t play. If the Astros’ players aren’t more concerned than the fans, I’d be pretty worried because beating up on bad opponents and struggling against good ones isn’t good practice for the postseason. The players don't fret about a loss or a slump as much as fans do. They look at the big picture of a long season. How they do against an opponent during a handful of games in a 162 game season doesn't mean much. (They got killed by CLE last year during the regular season and that meant absolutely nothing in the end.) |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 4, 2018 14:14:08 GMT -6
I think the latter would’ve been more likely with the Astros having more sway in their strut. I don’t think that Boston is too worried with a split considering their best hitter didn’t play. If the Astros’ players aren’t more concerned than the fans, I’d be pretty worried because beating up on bad opponents and struggling against good ones isn’t good practice for the postseason. The players don't fret about a loss or a slump as much as fans do. They look at the big picture of a long season. How they do against an opponent during a handful of games in a 162 game season doesn't mean much. (They got killed by CLE last year during the regular season and that meant absolutely nothing in the end.) Time for some of the players to wake up and figure out they won't win this year just because of what they did in 2017. They have to do it on the field in 2018. We have basically the same roster minus Beltran and Maybin, and, most of them are performing at a level much below 2017. Somebody needs to get it through to them that taking all of these fastballs for strikes is hurting them and killing the team. We could have won last night if Altuve and Correa had a clue what they were doing. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 4, 2018 15:13:55 GMT -6
I put this loss on stupid Morton, he is not the smartest pea in the pod to keep throwing the Bo Sox hanging cutters. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 4, 2018 15:32:19 GMT -6
I think the latter would’ve been more likely with the Astros having more sway in their strut. I don’t think that Boston is too worried with a split considering their best hitter didn’t play. If the Astros’ players aren’t more concerned than the fans, I’d be pretty worried because beating up on bad opponents and struggling against good ones isn’t good practice for the postseason. The players don't fret about a loss or a slump as much as fans do. They look at the big picture of a long season. How they do against an opponent during a handful of games in a 162 game season doesn't mean much. (They got killed by CLE last year during the regular season and that meant absolutely nothing in the end.) And we all thanked Jeebus that the Yankees beat them because they would’ve been a BAD matchup for the Astros. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 4, 2018 15:35:07 GMT -6
The players don't fret about a loss or a slump as much as fans do. They look at the big picture of a long season. How they do against an opponent during a handful of games in a 162 game season doesn't mean much. (They got killed by CLE last year during the regular season and that meant absolutely nothing in the end.) And we all thanked Jeebus that the Yankees beat them because they would’ve been a BAD matchup for the Astros. You got that right. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2018 16:24:27 GMT -6
The players don't fret about a loss or a slump as much as fans do. They look at the big picture of a long season. How they do against an opponent during a handful of games in a 162 game season doesn't mean much. (They got killed by CLE last year during the regular season and that meant absolutely nothing in the end.) And we all thanked Jeebus that the Yankees beat them because they would’ve been a BAD matchup for the Astros. The point was that a lot of variables come into play during the course of a season, and worrying about the results of some series part way through the year doesn't mean a whole lot. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 4, 2018 16:37:00 GMT -6
And we all thanked Jeebus that the Yankees beat them because they would’ve been a BAD matchup for the Astros. The point was that a lot of variables come into play during the course of a season, and worrying about the results of some series part way through the year doesn't mean a whole lot. I’m confused. You post in every GDT lamenting them losing games, but then tell us that losing the games doesn’t mean a lot. Are you just trying to sound cool? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 18:02:13 GMT -6
We had game three in this series won until Will Harris arrived to throw another round of batting practice. If Luhnow isn't on the phone trying to get a top reliever, he isn't doing his job I don't know coach. I have heard a lot of punditry state that Jeff has already had some preliminary contact with the Padres concerning one bad ass closer. Hope he pulls it off with minimal farm damage like he did with Verlander. Think of the playoffs in terms of only needing 3 of our 5 starters in starter roles. The other two in spot starts or long relief as needed, and then have Hand to come in to slam the door shut. Calmly and serenely imagine the entire playoffs with Sipp, Harris, and Giles getting a wood mite infestation because of continued Gluteal / Bench contact. Last I looked Fan Graphs has us way ahead of everyone else in expected WS% win expectation. Looking at our starters, I can see why. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 4, 2018 18:07:15 GMT -6
I put this loss on stupid Morton, he is not the smartest pea in the pod to keep throwing the Bo Sox hanging cutters. I watched the replay of the game this morning, the Sox were on him like a horse fly on shit. The thing is his velocity was his game average. He didn't have his good breaking ball, and not his spots with it and they just sat back and teed of on the FB. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 4, 2018 18:30:21 GMT -6
If Luhnow isn't on the phone trying to get a top reliever, he isn't doing his job I don't know coach. I have heard a lot of punditry state that Jeff has already had some preliminary contact with the Padres concerning one bad ass closer. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 4, 2018 18:41:17 GMT -6
The point was that a lot of variables come into play during the course of a season, and worrying about the results of some series part way through the year doesn't mean a whole lot. I’m confused. You post in every GDT lamenting them losing games, but then tell us that losing the games doesn’t mean a lot. Are you just trying to sound cool? My main goal in life is to sound cool on this board. I don't want them to lose, but I also don't think every loss is cause to cry about roster overhauls and say that we're not good. You can lose some games and still be a good team. |
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One thing we can count on tonight......if we get a chance at a big inning, Altuve and Correa will blow it. 
