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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 10, 2023 9:52:06 GMT -6
Do you trust that he’ll actually be the backup? Not if The Totally Great and Amazing Even Without Evidence José Espada is the manager I read a report that Ausmus isn’t a top candidate anymore so it may be Espada Time at long last. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 10, 2023 11:22:42 GMT -6
Not if The Totally Great and Amazing Even Without Evidence José Espada is the manager I read a report that Ausmus isn’t a top candidate anymore so it may be Espada Time at long last. I’m actually for this, just hopefully the contract is not that big of a commitment, in terms of years and of money |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 10, 2023 14:45:09 GMT -6
This off-season sucks, boring as sh*t
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Nov 10, 2023 18:04:04 GMT -6
This off-season sucks, boring as sh*t At least hire the new manager. Geez, give us something. |
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Post by This is dumb on Nov 10, 2023 18:26:41 GMT -6
This off-season sucks, boring as sh*t At least hire the new manager. Geez, give us something. Once we get a manager it may open the floodgates to some off season activity. I’m thinking a trade similar to the blockbuster when we traded Ken Caminiti, Steve Finley and others for Derek Bell, Doug Brocail and others. I just hope we come out better than we did on that one. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 10, 2023 18:32:04 GMT -6
Possibly Melton, but I would be more on 2025 for him. Arrighetti is the most likely IMO. Colton Gordon after him. For a position player, Loperfido, and maybe Pedro Leon if he can finally figure something out. If Whitley could ever get healthy he could get called up before all of them. Hoping for a Colin Barber breakout to move him along and hopefully make Tucker's departure less painful. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 10, 2023 18:35:09 GMT -6
Possibly Melton, but I would be more on 2025 for him. Arrighetti is the most likely IMO. Colton Gordon after him. For a position player, Loperfido, and maybe Pedro Leon if he can finally figure something out. If Whitley could ever get healthy he could get called up before all of them. Hoping for a Colin Barber breakout to move him along and hopefully make Tucker's departure less painful. So it’s spaghetti or bust for 2024? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 10, 2023 18:48:21 GMT -6
At least hire the new manager. Geez, give us something. Once we get a manager it may open the floodgates to some off season activity. I’m thinking a trade similar to the blockbuster when we traded Ken Caminiti, Steve Finley and others for Derek Bell, Doug Brocail and others. I just hope we come out better than we did on that one. Yeah, I was about to say that trade sucked balls. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 10, 2023 18:54:58 GMT -6
Once we get a manager it may open the floodgates to some off season activity. I’m thinking a trade similar to the blockbuster when we traded Ken Caminiti, Steve Finley and others for Derek Bell, Doug Brocail and others. I just hope we come out better than we did on that one. Yeah, I was about to say that trade sucked balls. Anderson for Bagwell, Fields for Alvarez, Bushue for Ohtani |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 10, 2023 19:09:36 GMT -6
Possibly Melton, but I would be more on 2025 for him. Arrighetti is the most likely IMO. Colton Gordon after him. For a position player, Loperfido, and maybe Pedro Leon if he can finally figure something out. If Whitley could ever get healthy he could get called up before all of them. Hoping for a Colin Barber breakout to move him along and hopefully make Tucker's departure less painful. So it’s spaghetti or bust for 2024? Probably. But you never know. France and Chas both pretty much came out of nowhere. |
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Post by This is dumb on Nov 10, 2023 20:53:38 GMT -6
Yeah, I was about to say that trade sucked balls. Anderson for Bagwell, Fields for Alvarez, Bushue for Ohtani Yeah that’s what we need! Gotta get sneaky and have a hell of a scouting book out there. Some of our guys are at peak value right now. For the right package I’d consider a Bergman trade. We could also get a haul for Presley. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 10, 2023 21:22:21 GMT -6
Anderson for Bagwell, Fields for Alvarez, Bushue for Ohtani Yeah that’s what we need! Gotta get sneaky and have a hell of a scouting book out there. Some of our guys are at peak value right now. For the right package I’d consider a Bergman trade. We could also get a haul for Presley. Yeah but they say they want to keep the window open. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 10, 2023 22:41:51 GMT -6
Yeah that’s what we need! Gotta get sneaky and have a hell of a scouting book out there. Some of our guys are at peak value right now. For the right package I’d consider a Bergman trade. We could also get a haul for Presley. Yeah but they say they want to keep the window open. I wonder if that open window is like the tell tale heart. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 10, 2023 22:58:44 GMT -6
That screams JV requesting him. It's fine if they really just have him be JV's personal catcher and give Diaz the rest. Give him $1 million to catch JV and mentor Diaz. Do you trust that he’ll actually be the backup? Yes. Unless Diaz completely flops. |
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Post by This is dumb on Nov 11, 2023 13:05:29 GMT -6
Yeah but they say they want to keep the window open. I wonder if that open window is like the tell tale heart. The window would still be open with the right package. Also, I don’t feel Crane has much loyalty like Drayton used to. Drayton held on to some players a year too long and missed a lot of opportunities to improve the prospect pipeline. Needless to say. Might get interesting once we get a manager. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 11, 2023 19:13:38 GMT -6
Bregman needs to be resigned, not traded. Easily the top 3B in franchise history and hasn't really declined yet. Good 3B are much rarer than good OF. We have no way to replace Bregman. I would deal Tucker long before Bregman. Tucker is certain to walk unless he gets a megadeal.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 11, 2023 19:39:02 GMT -6
Bregman needs to be resigned, not traded. Easily the top 3B in franchise history and hasn't really declined yet. Good 3B are much rarer than good OF. We have no way to replace Bregman. I would deal Tucker long before Bregman. Tucker is certain to walk unless he gets a megadeal. “-“, Bortaz says use it, bitch. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 11, 2023 20:03:46 GMT -6
Bregman needs to be resigned, not traded. Easily the top 3B in franchise history and hasn't really declined yet. Good 3B are much rarer than good OF. We have no way to replace Bregman. I would deal Tucker long before Bregman. Tucker is certain to walk unless he gets a megadeal. Yeah, I don’t understand this thinking from fans about needing to deal talent instead of keeping them. Be consistent. They want Altuve to stay. Why not deal him too? If you want to maintain a contender, show it with the checkbook. Like you said, they have no replacement for Bregman. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 11, 2023 20:11:04 GMT -6
That screams JV requesting him. It's fine if they really just have him be JV's personal catcher and give Diaz the rest. Give him $1 million to catch JV and mentor Diaz. Do you trust that he’ll actually be the backup? We should move Justin to the back-end of the bullpen, and shove Maldy out the door that way |
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Post by m240 on Nov 11, 2023 21:11:23 GMT -6
I wonder if that open window is like the tell tale heart. The window would still be open with the right package. Also, I don’t feel Crane has much loyalty like Drayton used to. Drayton held on to some players a year too long and missed a lot of opportunities to improve the prospect pipeline. Needless to say. Might get interesting once we get a manager. Our window could be very much still open even without signing anyone. But I damn sure would not bet on it. IF McCullers, Garcia, pitch like they have shown they can pitch, and if Verlander finds his last hurrah waiting for him, and somehow or another Abreu's problems really were a tricky back issue that resolves itself.well the we can just tweak things a bit and drive right on down the road. But I sure would not count on it. Brown has to show a whole lot more than he has shown so far to right this ship. Can he do it, yes he can. Will he do it, time will tell. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 11, 2023 22:43:48 GMT -6
The window would still be open with the right package. Also, I don’t feel Crane has much loyalty like Drayton used to. Drayton held on to some players a year too long and missed a lot of opportunities to improve the prospect pipeline. Needless to say. Might get interesting once we get a manager. Our window could be very much still open even without signing anyone. But I damn sure would not bet on it. IF McCullers, Garcia, pitch like they have shown they can pitch, and if Verlander finds his last hurrah waiting for him, and somehow or another Abreu's problems really were a tricky back issue that resolves itself.well the we can just tweak things a bit and drive right on down the road. But I sure would not count on it. Brown has to show a whole lot more than he has shown so far to right this ship. Can he do it, yes he can. Will he do it, time will tell. Garcia won't even be back until July at the earliest, probably McCullers too, according to Rome. Who knows what will be in the tank, if they'll even stay healthy, etc. Astros need to assume nothing from either of them this coming season and be pleasantly surprised with whatever they get. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 11, 2023 22:44:31 GMT -6
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Post by m240 on Nov 12, 2023 0:24:41 GMT -6
Our window could be very much still open even without signing anyone. But I damn sure would not bet on it. IF McCullers, Garcia, pitch like they have shown they can pitch, and if Verlander finds his last hurrah waiting for him, and somehow or another Abreu's problems really were a tricky back issue that resolves itself.well the we can just tweak things a bit and drive right on down the road. But I sure would not count on it. Brown has to show a whole lot more than he has shown so far to right this ship. Can he do it, yes he can. Will he do it, time will tell. Garcia won't even be back until July at the earliest, probably McCullers too, according to Rome. Who knows what will be in the tank, if they'll even stay healthy, etc. Astros need to assume nothing from either of them this coming season and be pleasantly surprised with whatever they get. That is our real problem as we go into 2024. The starting pitchers, we have a bunch of hem but do we have enough to get 850-900 innings. Let's count them. Verlander 165 Valdez. 195 Javier. 150 that is 500 innings or so of maybe 4.00 era from your top 3 guys not bad but not inspiring either and then who Brown. Hell he has a 6.00 era the second time through the order, he should be a reliever Urquidy, who knows he is always injured McCullers aka Mr Glass Garcia we will know by the all star break France He instills a lot of confidence For us to have a snow balls chance in hell we have to sign a legit innings eater and slump buster. Where does that money come from. Who knows though, we may get lucky and all those question marks become exclamation points and we waltz back into the playoffs, or perhaps Brown shows us what a great GM looks like. No idea which track we follow but it should be interesting and the biggest question is when does the answer start to present itself. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 12, 2023 19:03:46 GMT -6
Garcia won't even be back until July at the earliest, probably McCullers too, according to Rome. Who knows what will be in the tank, if they'll even stay healthy, etc. Astros need to assume nothing from either of them this coming season and be pleasantly surprised with whatever they get. That is our real problem as we go into 2024. The starting pitchers, we have a bunch of hem but do we have enough to get 850-900 innings. Let's count them. Verlander 165 Valdez. 195 Javier. 150 that is 500 innings or so of maybe 4.00 era from your top 3 guys not bad but not inspiring either and then who Brown. Hell he has a 6.00 era the second time through the order, he should be a reliever Urquidy, who knows he is always injured McCullers aka Mr Glass Garcia we will know by the all star break France He instills a lot of confidence For us to have a snow balls chance in hell we have to sign a legit innings eater and slump buster. Where does that money come from. Who knows though, we may get lucky and all those question marks become exclamation points and we waltz back into the playoffs, or perhaps Brown shows us what a great GM looks like. No idea which track we follow but it should be interesting and the biggest question is when does the answer start to present itself. I think Brown will be the key. His one real major problem is being homer prone. He's a rookie. Need to give him time to iron that out. If he does, he's a #2 starter easily. Not at all the time to relegate him to the bullpen. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 12, 2023 20:25:21 GMT -6
That is our real problem as we go into 2024. The starting pitchers, we have a bunch of hem but do we have enough to get 850-900 innings. Let's count them. Verlander 165 Valdez. 195 Javier. 150 that is 500 innings or so of maybe 4.00 era from your top 3 guys not bad but not inspiring either and then who Brown. Hell he has a 6.00 era the second time through the order, he should be a reliever Urquidy, who knows he is always injured McCullers aka Mr Glass Garcia we will know by the all star break France He instills a lot of confidence For us to have a snow balls chance in hell we have to sign a legit innings eater and slump buster. Where does that money come from. Who knows though, we may get lucky and all those question marks become exclamation points and we waltz back into the playoffs, or perhaps Brown shows us what a great GM looks like. No idea which track we follow but it should be interesting and the biggest question is when does the answer start to present itself. I think Brown will be the key. His one real major problem is being homer prone. He's a rookie. Need to give him time to iron that out. If he does, he's a #2 starter easily. Not at all the time to relegate him to the bullpen. As badly as Brown got abused by Dusty it is hard to tell how much his splits would have improved if his manager had a clue on how to handle young pitchers. |
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Post by This is dumb on Nov 13, 2023 19:12:14 GMT -6
I think Brown will be the key. His one real major problem is being homer prone. He's a rookie. Need to give him time to iron that out. If he does, he's a #2 starter easily. Not at all the time to relegate him to the bullpen. As badly as Brown got abused by Dusty it is hard to tell how much his splits would have improved if his manager had a clue on how to handle young pitchers. We can’t depend on Brown. He’s a crap shoot at best. Honestly we’d be better off wooing Bartolo Colon out of retirement than to depend on Brown for eating innings. Don’t crack an (eating) joke because Colon is a hefty bloke. We are talking innings here, not tacos. Completely different conversation. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 13, 2023 21:38:17 GMT -6
As badly as Brown got abused by Dusty it is hard to tell how much his splits would have improved if his manager had a clue on how to handle young pitchers. We can’t depend on Brown. He’s a crap shoot at best. Honestly we’d be better off wooing Bartolo Colon out of retirement than to depend on Brown for eating innings. Don’t crack an (eating) joke because Colon is a hefty bloke. We are talking innings here, not tacos. Completely different conversation. Hunter Brown posted a 3.52 xFIP, a 52.4% GB rate, 10.3 K/9 against 3.2 BB/9 as a rookie. He was overworked and started giving up too many long balls, and that was basically his only problem. 29 other teams would absolutely love to break camp with him in their rotation. He'd be a 1, 2, or 3 on most staffs. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 14, 2023 17:46:34 GMT -6
Kenedy Corona was the only Rule 5 eligible prospect the Astros added to their roster. For some reason beyond me, they left Colin Barber exposed, good grief.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 14, 2023 18:46:12 GMT -6
Kenedy Corona was the only Rule 5 eligible prospect the Astros added to their roster. For some reason beyond me, they left Colin Barber exposed, good grief. The current regime doesn’t care much about the current prospects. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 15, 2023 7:14:00 GMT -6
Free Agent hierarchy of needs?
A Younger Ace - the Astros 2024, I still believe is definitely in the top 1/4 of the league.
A Top Bat - with Diaz becoming the starter, the lineup looks definitely strong. Weak point is Meyers or Dubon being starting CF, better if they were bench players
Bullpen- Presley and Abreu fantastic one-two punch. Montero is an expensive ?, but I believe he will rebound next season. Neris, Maton and Stanek are all free agents.
The team is begrudgingly too solid, so I will be very surprised if they do anything monumental.
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