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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 5:53:18 GMT -6
One incredible fact that has to be killing the COB office is that it is not even Mid June yet, and unless the unexpected happens, the AL playoff teams are pretty much set. Order? Definitely not, but look at the June 12 standings of top 10 teams. Also I believe though unlikely, at present winning pct., 4 AL teams are projected to win 100 this year. Welcome to the NBA baby.
Team. WL. GB. Status
NYY. 42 - 19 _. 1 Seed. ALE leader
SEA 42 - 24 _. 2 Seed ALW leader
CLE 35 - 29. _. 3 Seed ALC leader
BOS 45 - 22. _. WC 1 Position
HOU. 42 - 25. _ WC2. Positon
LAA. 37 - 30 5. Just lost their Ace, lack of any depth in lineup, toughest division
OAK. 34 - 32. 7.5. 7.5 back? Does anyone think they have the horsepower to make up that much ground?
DET 31 - 36. 11. Rebuilder..... No way
TBR 30 -35 11. Same as DET
TOR. 30- 36. 11.5. Had fairly high expectations. But dug themselves probably into too deep of a hole.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 6:07:24 GMT -6
Noticed this pretty much has been summed up too on Fan Graphs-
Percentage chance of making playoffs-
NYY- 99.8% HOU- 99.7% BOS- 99.1% CLE- 96.4% SEA- 61.6% LAA- 26.4% Everyone else <10%
So based on their algorithms , I think they sumise that the only competitive spot yet is LAA vs. SEA
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Post by marshall on Jun 12, 2018 6:52:59 GMT -6
I always expect someone who can't miss in the first half winds up missing and someone with no chance winds up making it. Right now, The most likely can't miss is Cleveland to get passed by a mediocre central team that catches lightning in a bottle.
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Post by Saint on Jun 12, 2018 7:01:19 GMT -6
One incredible fact that has to be killing the COB office is that it is not even Mid June yet, and unless the unexpected happens, the AL playoff teams are pretty much set. Order? Definitely not, but look at the June 12 standings of top 10 teams. Also I believe though unlikely, at present winning pct., 4 AL teams are projected to win 100 this year. Welcome to the NBA baby. Team. WL. GB. Status NYY. 42 - 19 _. 1 Seed. ALE leader SEA 42 - 24 _. 2 Seed ALW leader CLE 35 - 29. _. 3 Seed ALC leader BOS 45 - 22. _. WC 1 Position HOU. 42 - 25. _ WC2. Positon LAA. 37 - 30 5. Just lost their Ace, lack of any depth in lineup, toughest division OAK. 34 - 32. 7.5. 7.5 back? Does anyone think they have the horsepower to make up that much ground? DET 31 - 36. 11. Rebuilder..... No way TBR 30 -35 11. Same as DET TOR. 30- 36. 11.5. Had fairly high expectations. But dug themselves probably into too deep of a hole. There could still be some battle in the AL Central and Oakland could make a run for a WC spot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 6:19:31 GMT -6
In three weeks the picture has gotten even uglier for any kind of playoff excitement, with exception of seeding. Here is an update.
Team. W/L. GB. Status
BOS 59 - 29 _. 1 Seed. ALE leader
HOU 58 - 31 _. 2 Seed ALW leader
CLE 48 - 37. _. 3 Seed ALC leader and 11.5 game lead over MIN in the Comedy Central.
NYY 56 - 28. _. WC 1 Position
SEA . 56- 32. _ WC 2. Position Still think a late summer fade is just a matter of time. Still a big enough lead that I bet they hang on for an early playoff exit.
OAK. 48 - 39. 7.5. Still 7.5 back? Besides SEA, the AL surprise team this year as far as I am concerned. Playing baseball in Oct? Nahhhhhhhhh......
LAA- 44 - 44 12.0. Sorry Ace. 272 days until opening day 2019.
TBR 43 - 43 12.0 Another surprise team that no one guess might be playing .500 baseball. Post season in this talented field? Their chances get the Death Ray.
Everyone else? under .500
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Post by Saint on Jul 6, 2018 6:43:49 GMT -6
The NL would/should have drama.
There are good battles in the AL East and West. The AL Central is a joke since KC gave up before the year started and Minnesota has not met expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 8:37:33 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats.
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Post by Saint on Jul 6, 2018 9:10:17 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats. I'm not worried, but it appears pretty apparent they aren't going to go away unless we just really get hot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 9:17:38 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats. I'm not worried, but it appears pretty apparent they aren't going to go away unless we just really get hot. We are better than SEA in absolutely every category. I am also and adherent of the "things even out" theory. Their ability to keep winning close games won't go on forever. In the long run, having a close race till later in the year might be to our benefit. Teams that win their divisions by 20 games, tend to go into a complacent mode, and come out flat playoff time. Our 1998 team was a good example of that.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 6, 2018 10:35:04 GMT -6
I'm not worried, but it appears pretty apparent they aren't going to go away unless we just really get hot. We are better than SEA in absolutely every category. I am also and adherent of the "things even out" theory. Their ability to keep winning close games won't go on forever. In the long run, having a close race till later in the year might be to our benefit. Teams that win their divisions by 20 games, tend to go into a complacent mode, and come out flat playoff time. Our 1998 team was a good example of that. I think that having a close race into late September is a good thing as long as the Astros clinch early enough that Hinch can set the rotation for the playoffs in such a way that our #1 starter goes in game one on full rest followed by starters #2 - #4, also on full rest.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 6, 2018 10:39:03 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats. I'm not worried, but it appears pretty apparent they aren't going to go away unless we just really get hot. The year Seattle is having reminds me of the year the Rangers had when they won something like 36 one run games. I believe it was 2016.
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Post by Saint on Jul 6, 2018 10:47:29 GMT -6
I'm not worried, but it appears pretty apparent they aren't going to go away unless we just really get hot. The year Seattle is having reminds me of the year the Rangers had when they won something like 36 one run games. I believe it was 2016. I don't really think they'll maintain their pace without making some moves, but they've lasted longer than I thought they would already.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 6, 2018 11:20:50 GMT -6
The year Seattle is having reminds me of the year the Rangers had when they won something like 36 one run games. I believe it was 2016. I don't really think they'll maintain their pace without making some moves, but they've lasted longer than I thought they would already. They didn't pay that much in prospects for Colome and Span...
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 12:49:44 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats. At what point are we going to admit that the Mariners are a good team?
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 6, 2018 13:49:14 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats. At what point are we going to admit that the Mariners are a good team? They are a good team, but, only a wild card team at best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 13:51:01 GMT -6
At what point are we going to admit that the Mariners are a good team? They are a good team, but, only a wild card team at best. Yeah , but are they better than the A's? Or just luckier?
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Post by Saint on Jul 6, 2018 15:06:53 GMT -6
Agree that the BOS v. NYY might have some late season intrigue. But you think SEA will hang with us? IMO?... No..... but these guys do seem to keep yanking rabbits out of hats. At what point are we going to admit that the Mariners are a good team? They're good, but they're playing above their level.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 15:21:55 GMT -6
At what point are we going to admit that the Mariners are a good team? They're good, but they're playing above their level. Yet they’ve stood toe-to-toe with the Astros since Canó went down.
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Post by Saint on Jul 6, 2018 15:23:41 GMT -6
They're good, but they're playing above their level. Yet they’ve stood toe-to-toe with the Astros since Canó went down. Right. Because they're currently playing above their level. While the Astros, at times, have played a little below their level.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 6, 2018 15:25:45 GMT -6
Yet they’ve stood toe-to-toe with the Astros since Canó went down. Right. Because they're currently playing above their level. While the Astros, at times, have played a little below their level. That is basically how the Mariners have stayed with us......they are over-achieving and we have not always played to the level we should. I think the main difference in the two teams is in the starting rotation.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 15:29:44 GMT -6
Right. Because they're currently playing above their level. While the Astros, at times, have played a little below their level. That is basically how the Mariners have stayed with us......they are over-achieving and we have not always played to the level we should. I think the main difference in the two teams is in the starting rotation. I think it’s beyond the point of overachieving when they’ve done it for a month. You can’t rule out that they may, in fact, be a good team.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 15:31:07 GMT -6
Yet they’ve stood toe-to-toe with the Astros since Canó went down. Right. Because they're currently playing above their level. While the Astros, at times, have played a little below their level. I don’t believe the Mariners are a championship team, but it’s dangerous to underestimate them. I’m pretty sure Luhnow isn’t.
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Post by m240 on Jul 6, 2018 15:38:23 GMT -6
Right. Because they're currently playing above their level. While the Astros, at times, have played a little below their level. I don’t believe the Mariners are a championship team, but it’s dangerous to underestimate them. I’m pretty sure Luhnow isn’t. underestimating the Mariners is a fools errand. We should just go ahead and bring up our internal options to see what we have and better identify what we need to go and get.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 6, 2018 15:40:43 GMT -6
I don’t believe the Mariners are a championship team, but it’s dangerous to underestimate them. I’m pretty sure Luhnow isn’t. underestimating the Mariners is a fools errand. We should just go ahead and bring up our internal options to see what we have and better identify what we need to go and get. Exactly.
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