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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 9:20:58 GMT -6
paastrosfan we need to start calling George Downtown Anderson again
Playing a different game in a different era. Just got finished watching the replay of last nights game. Well it looks like the aggressive running was key to that win, along with the pen doing their job. At MMP I know the left fielder does not play a regular position like in other parks because of the configuration, but Jose to make it to third on a shot to left is something you do not see everyday. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 19, 2018 10:24:02 GMT -6
He just knows that if he is persistent he will eventually pull that outside pitch past the third baseman and it will bounce into the Crawford boxes. Why is Bregman in left? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 19, 2018 10:25:25 GMT -6
Bregman might get the fanfare and Gatorade bath for the walkoff double, but you just can’t understate the contributions of the young guys Stassi and Kemp to the victory. They laid the groundwork of the completed comeback. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 19, 2018 10:30:03 GMT -6
Bregman might get the fanfare and Gatorade bath for the walkoff double, but you just can’t understate the contributions of the young guys Stassi and Kemp to the victory. They laid the groundwork of the completed comeback. Altuve was a one-man machine. Only he can make it to 3rd on a ball hit to our left field. |
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Post by bannedfan on Jun 19, 2018 10:46:23 GMT -6
LF was charged with an error to allow him to go to 3rd. Great base running by Altuve though and that grounder he beat out started the offense.
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 10:54:15 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 11:05:33 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most. I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 19, 2018 11:14:05 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most. I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. George is in his "pull everything" mode and that is why he is in this slump. If he has not done so, he should look at video of when he is hitting and driving the ball the way he is capable, and, that is NOT when he is trying to pull. I would prefer Bregnan leading off over Altuve because Jose is prone to swinging at the first pitch he sees while Bregman works the count and gets on base. I'd like to see Jose second, Yuli batting third, and then Correa, Gattis, Marwin, Springer, McCann/Stassi, Kemp. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 19, 2018 11:18:46 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most. I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. The reasons for keeping Springer at leadoff are very outdated and I agree, he ought to be hitting 4th or so. maybe 3rd. an argument for Kemp near the top of the order can be made too; the man gets on base a lot and makes things happen. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 11:44:54 GMT -6
I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. George is in his "pull everything" mode and that is why he is in this slump. If he has not done so, he should look at video of when he is hitting and driving the ball the way he is capable, and, that is NOT when he is trying to pull. I would prefer Bregnan leading off over Altuve because Jose is prone to swinging at the first pitch he sees while Bregman works the count and gets on base. I'd like to see Jose second, Yuli batting third, and then Correa, Gattis, Marwin, Springer, McCann/Stassi, Kemp. The reasons I would prefer Altuve at 1 is that Altuve is our top OBP guy and base stealer. He is the best hitter on the team and would get the most at-bats, if he was at 1. I prefer Bregman at 2 because he is a guy who can, and would, take a pitch or two to allow Altuve a chance to steal a base, but has the discipline and consistent contact ability such that his taking a pitch or two would not be likely to result in a strikeout. Bregman is not the base stealing threat that Altuve is and Altuve is not the kind of guy who would be willing and patient enough to let a pitch or two go by in order to allow a base runner a chance to steal a base before swinging away. Yuli at 3 sounds good. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 11:53:56 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most. I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. That's exactly what I would do. Altuve Bregman Correa Springer Gurriel Gattis Reddick Stassi/McCann Kemp That's our best potential lineup right now with Marwin spelling the IFers for days off. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 11:54:00 GMT -6
I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. The reasons for keeping Springer at leadoff are very outdated and I agree, he ought to be hitting 4th or so. maybe 3rd. an argument for Kemp near the top of the order can be made too; the man gets on base a lot and makes things happen. Springer leading off is one thing that reminds me of old school. Bobby Bonds leading off the Giants. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 11:58:07 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with a power hitter hitting leadoff, in theory. But, Altuve and Bregman get on base the most, and Correa, Springer, and Gattis have the most power to capitalize on those guys getting on base with big swings.
Springer is having a good season, but he's just not consistent enough (too streaky) to leadoff. I'd rather him swing out of his shoes trying to drive runners in, than doing it when we need someone to start the game off by getting on base.
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Post by bannedfan on Jun 19, 2018 12:01:10 GMT -6
Springer has hit into 8 DP’s as a leadoff hitter. Imagine that number if he hits behind Bregman and Altuve.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 12:09:38 GMT -6
Springer is having a good season, but he's just not consistent enough (too streaky) to leadoff. I'd rather him swing out of his shoes trying to drive runners in, than doing it when we need someone to start the game off by getting on base. My thoughts exactly. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 12:17:00 GMT -6
Springer is having a good season, but he's just not consistent enough (too streaky) to leadoff. I'd rather him swing out of his shoes trying to drive runners in, than doing it when we need someone to start the game off by getting on base. My thoughts exactly. When George is dialed in on the right frame of mind in his approach at the plate, not one better. As soon as he has those big games things change. Julia had a interview during the season last year talking about his swing, and he said he always swings hard going for the downs. Not knowing the guy he seems like a player, just like the clip talking about how much he was involved in his wedding plans. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 12:30:08 GMT -6
I’ll be shocked if AJ ever moves George out of leadoff.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 12:35:08 GMT -6
I agree. Altuve and Bregman would be a great 1 - 2. George is great when he is not in “pull everything” mode, but he is going to go through those extended periods in which he flails away at outside pitches trying to hit a bomb to LF only to K or ground out to third base. I would like to see AJ try a Altuve, Bregman Correa, Springer 1-4. That is never going to happen though. That's exactly what I would do. Altuve Bregman Correa Springer Gurriel Gattis Reddick Stassi/McCann Kemp That's our best potential lineup right now with Marwin spelling the IFers for days off. I really like having Kemp batting 9th ahead of the top of the order. I really believe Tucker is going to be called up by the end of the month. Gonna be interesting to see what roster move(s) the team makes when Tucker gets the call. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 19, 2018 13:03:33 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most. The World Series success by Springer has locked him into the leadoff spot. It’ll take something really bad to occur for him on offense to be removed. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 13:15:23 GMT -6
I still feel we're doing the team a disservice by not having Altuve lead off. He should be getting the most ABs on the team and he gets on base the most. The World Series success by Springer has locked him into the leadoff spot. It’ll take something really bad to occur for him on offense to be removed. It is easy to forget that from game 1 of the ALCS through the end of game 1 of the WS Springer went 3-30 with 11 Ks....including 0-4 with 4 Ks in game 1 of the WS...., before he broke free of the “pull everything” mode and started hitting again in game 2 of the WS. Fortunately for the Astros he didn’t wait any longer to break free. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 13:31:04 GMT -6
That's exactly what I would do. Altuve Bregman Correa Springer Gurriel Gattis Reddick Stassi/McCann Kemp That's our best potential lineup right now with Marwin spelling the IFers for days off. I really like having Kemp batting 9th ahead of the top of the order. I really believe Tucker is going to be called up by the end of the month. Gonna be interesting to see what roster move(s) the team makes when Tucker gets the call. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 19, 2018 13:42:35 GMT -6
No way does Hinch take Springer out of the leadoff spot even though he probably should. I like this:
Bregman
Altuve
Gurriel
Correa
Gattis
Gonzalez/Reddick
Springer
NcCann/Stassi
Kemp/Reddick
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Post by marshall on Jun 19, 2018 13:48:56 GMT -6
I'm going to go back to the best theoretical lineup and then plug in the players. 1. Highest OPS+ batting 3rd. 2. Next highest OPS+ batting 4th. 3. Highest OBP batting 1st. 4. Next highest OBP batting 2nd. 5. Highest SLG batting 5th. 6. Next highest SLG batting 6th. 7. Fastest batting 9th. 8. Highest BA batting 7th. 9. Next highest BA batting 8th. Now I'll plug them in. 1. Highest OPS+ Jose Altuve 148 Batting 3rd 2. Next Highest OPS+ Carlos Corea 141 Batting 4th. 3. Highest OBP Alex Bregman .371 Batting 1st. 4. Next highest OBP George Springer .355 Batting 2nd. 5. Highest SLG Evan Gattis .507 Hitting 5th 6. Next highest SLG Yuli Gurriel .403 Bating 6th. 7. Fastest Tony Kemp Batting 9th .316/.389/.430/.730 8. Highest BA Max Stassi .270 batting 7th 9. Next highest BA Marwin Gonzales .259 Batting 8th Leaving this lineup: 1. Alex Bregman 3B .371 OBP 2. George Springer CF .355 OBP 3. Jose Altuve 2B 148 OPS+ 4. Carlos Correa SS 141 OPS+ 5. Evan Gattis DH .507 SLG 6. Yuli Gurriel 1B .403 SLG 7. Max Stassi C .270 BA 8. Marwin Gonzales RF .259 BA 9. Tony Kemp LF .316/.389/.430/.730
Now if Kemp maintains his pace, he would move into the leadoff. I excluded him for lack of ABs at this point except for his speed.
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