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Post by marshall on Jun 22, 2018 3:30:58 GMT -6
With the Home hitting woes, would you change anything about the batter's eye. It was really done without much forethought just to get rid of Tal's Hill.
I'd like to see them get rid of the logo and use a solid Astro's Blue color for a background. The glare over left field really can't be helped except by starting time changes.
Also consider the Batter's eye's at stadiums the players like when incorporating potential design changes. I thought I read recently of a batter's eye which utilized technology from Boeing to reduce reflective light, but I may be mistaken.
Anybody else have some thoughts?
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 22, 2018 3:35:22 GMT -6
One would think that with Johnson Space Center in town, they could fix this sort of thing. Isn't going to the Moon a tad harder than designing a baseball stadium?
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Post by marshall on Jun 22, 2018 6:02:34 GMT -6
One would think that with Johnson Space Center in town, they could fix this sort of thing. Isn't going to the Moon a tad harder than designing a baseball stadium? No need to re-invent the wheel. Just find one that works. I did find it interesting that an article ranking Batter's Eyes listed Minute Made at #2. But I think they focused on them from the fan's perspective. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 22, 2018 7:05:43 GMT -6
Any of you guys/gals ever get to stand in the batter's box during a special event or something like that? I wonder what it looks like for Correa when he's up there.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 22, 2018 10:16:48 GMT -6
I am sure if the hitting background showed some kind of defect picking up the ball, visiting teams would have brought the subject up quickly.
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Post by marshall on Jun 22, 2018 11:37:44 GMT -6
I am sure if the hitting background showed some kind of defect picking up the ball, visiting teams would have brought the subject up quickly. They may have. But not in the press. Both home and opposing teams have trouble getting hits here. After 2000, It's hard to believe this is considered a very pitcher friendly park. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 22, 2018 12:17:18 GMT -6
I am sure if the hitting background showed some kind of defect picking up the ball, visiting teams would have brought the subject up quickly. They may have. But not in the press. Both home and opposing teams have trouble getting hits here. After 2000, It's hard to believe this is considered a very pitcher friendly park. In this day and age how pampered these guys are, if there was a problem picking up the ball it would be major news. Going back to watch you mentioned in the 2000's. I still remember the comment Jose Lima (Who was a fly ball pitcher) made when watching BP when they moved from the Dome to the Juice Box, "you want me to pitch in this park". You have to assume the pitchers adapted to the park, where in MLB Baseball do you see the left fielder playing almost shaded in left center. sabr.org/bioproj/person/be226b55 |
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Post by Saint on Jun 22, 2018 12:29:14 GMT -6
No stadium ever ruined a career more than Jose Lima's....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 12:41:10 GMT -6
No stadium ever ruined a career more than Jose Lima's.... True story. Coors Field hurt Darryl Kile & Mike Hampton's career as well. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 22, 2018 16:14:11 GMT -6
They may have. But not in the press. Both home and opposing teams have trouble getting hits here. After 2000, It's hard to believe this is considered a very pitcher friendly park. In this day and age how pampered these guys are, if there was a problem picking up the ball it would be major news. Going back to watch you mentioned in the 2000's. I still remember the comment Jose Lima (Who was a fly ball pitcher) made when watching BP when they moved from the Dome to the Juice Box, "you want me to pitch in this park". You have to assume the pitchers adapted to the park, where in MLB Baseball do you see the left fielder playing almost shaded in left center. sabr.org/bioproj/person/be226b55 |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 22, 2018 16:39:43 GMT -6
In this day and age how pampered these guys are, if there was a problem picking up the ball it would be major news. Going back to watch you mentioned in the 2000's. I still remember the comment Jose Lima (Who was a fly ball pitcher) made when watching BP when they moved from the Dome to the Juice Box, "you want me to pitch in this park". You have to assume the pitchers adapted to the park, where in MLB Baseball do you see the left fielder playing almost shaded in left center. sabr.org/bioproj/person/be226b55At the bottom of the page I saw this explanation of how the analysis is done: “Park Factor compares the rate of stats at home vs. the rate of stats on the road. A rate higher than 1.000 favors the hitter. Below 1.000 favors the pitcher.” In the case of the Astros, I question how much the lesser rate of stats at home are attributable to the ballpark itself and how much is attributable to a change in the players’ approach to hitting due to their desire to take advantage of the Crawford boxes. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 22, 2018 16:44:54 GMT -6
At the bottom of the page I saw this explanation of how the analysis is done: “Park Factor compares the rate of stats at home vs. the rate of stats on the road. A rate higher than 1.000 favors the hitter. Below 1.000 favors the pitcher.” In the case of the Astros, I question how much the lesser rate of stats at home are attributable to the ballpark itself and how much is attributable to a change in the players’ approach to hitting due to their desire to take advantage of the Crawford boxes.
there's definitely something that can be said in support of that. I remember a year after MMP opened is when Baggy's degenerative shoulder condition was revealed
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 22, 2018 18:36:07 GMT -6
With the Home hitting woes, would you change anything about the batter's eye. It was really done without much forethought just to get rid of Tal's Hill.
I'd like to see them get rid of the logo and use a solid Astro's Blue color for a background. The glare over left field really can't be helped except by starting time changes.
Also consider the Batter's eye's at stadiums the players like when incorporating potential design changes. I thought I read recently of a batter's eye which utilized technology from Boeing to reduce reflective light, but I may be mistaken.
Anybody else have some thoughts?
Marsh, they are talking in the booth about your thread. LOL |
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Post by marshall on Jun 22, 2018 19:09:09 GMT -6
With the Home hitting woes, would you change anything about the batter's eye. It was really done without much forethought just to get rid of Tal's Hill.
I'd like to see them get rid of the logo and use a solid Astro's Blue color for a background. The glare over left field really can't be helped except by starting time changes.
Also consider the Batter's eye's at stadiums the players like when incorporating potential design changes. I thought I read recently of a batter's eye which utilized technology from Boeing to reduce reflective light, but I may be mistaken.
Anybody else have some thoughts?
Marsh, they are talking in the booth about your thread. LOLI heard that as they defended Minute Maid as a hitter's park. But them couldn't explain why the Astros have problems hitting at home. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 22, 2018 22:27:58 GMT -6
Out of all of Marshall’s theories, I feel that this one has the most merit behind it. This offense has screeched to a halt since the road trip.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 24, 2018 0:56:11 GMT -6
Astros team OPS in away games is an MLB-best .829 this year, but at home the team is hitting .701, which is only 23rd-best among teams playing in their home stadium. Scary bad. The only reason the Astros are in these home games is that the other teams are hitting even worse. I suspect it comes down to the lighting, but people need to keep in mind that the lighting affects cognitive function, not only vision. There are real science articles on this - how the various wavelengths and frequency of LED light affects brainwave patterns in ways that traditional lighting doesn't. Schools have started to see the same thing as they have gone from incandescent bulbs, to fluorescent bulbs, and now to LED lighting. Some lighting helps people focus, solve problems, and execute motor functions; other lighting makes these things more difficult. Test scores go up with certain classroom lighting systems, and down in others; and what's going on is more complicated than simply 'Can students see the chalkboard or not?'. A possibly relevant Italian study: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82024863.pdf |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 24, 2018 0:57:16 GMT -6
This may be one of the rare cases where a team does *not* want to have home field advantage in the postseason.
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