Bregman

[Saint]

Jul 3, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Unless there is another Ichiro out there, I can do without an Asian.

What do you have against chinitos?  Some really good ones out there.

[unionstation82]

Jul 3, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Unless there is another Ichiro out there, I can do without an Asian.

Damn, that was racist. What do you have against Chinamen?

[blcoach8]

Jul 3, 2018 12:57:15 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Jul 3, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Unless there is another Ichiro out there, I can do without an Asian.

Damn, that was racist. What do you have against Chinamen?

Nothing racist intended.  Ichiro was a great hitter. Name me one other Asian who produced at that level over that period of time.  Most a complementary players who never hit with power or drive in runs.  I am not in favor of having guys on the team due to his race nor am I in favor of not adding a good player due to his race.   I can remember when letters appeared in the Houston Chronicle claiming the Astros were a racist organization for not having a black player at that time.  They were sometimes called racists when they traded away black players.  I remember hearing some people whine that we didn't have enough Hispanic players when the Dodgers kept pitching Fernando Valenzuela against theim in the Asltrodome and beating them.  Countless numbers of Hispanic fans showed up waving the Mexican flag and pulling for the Dodgers to beat the Astros because of Valenzuela.  I am sure some of them were the same people labeling the Astros as racists for not having more Hispanics on the roster.

[astrosdoug]

Off the top of my head, most of the successful Asian players in MLB are pitchers rather than hitters. Ichiro and Shin-soo Choo would be exceptions.

This list gives a pretty good breakdown of how many players from each country are currently major leaguers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Major_League_Baseball_players_by_nationality

Tommy Pham is an interesting case; a great hitter, with a Vietnamese father, but his mother is a Black American.

At the end of the day, there are obvious physical and genetic differences between the races, some of which have implications for sports. Being aware of those differences and recognizing their existence isn't the same thing as "racism" the way that idea is traditionally understood.

[Saint]

Jul 3, 2018 13:43:49 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Jul 3, 2018 12:57:15 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Damn, that was racist. What do you have against Chinamen?

Nothing racist intended.  Ichiro was a great hitter. Name me one other Asian who produced at that level over that period of time.  Most a complementary players who never hit with power or drive in runs.  I am not in favor of having guys on the team due to his race nor am I in favor of not adding a good player due to his race.   I can remember when letters appeared in the Houston Chronicle claiming the Astros were a racist organization for not having a black player at that time.  They were sometimes called racists when they traded away black players.  I remember hearing some people whine that we didn't have enough Hispanic players when the Dodgers kept pitching Fernando Valenzuela against theim in the Asltrodome and beating them.  Countless numbers of Hispanic fans showed up waving the Mexican flag and pulling for the Dodgers to beat the Astros because of Valenzuela.  I am sure some of them were the same people labeling the Astros as racists for not having more Hispanics on the roster.

Ichiro was another level.  There haven't been many white, hispanic, or black players that good during his generation.  That's an unreasonable benchmark.

Shin-Soo Choo is very productive and has been good for a long time. Tanaka, Darvish, Kuroda, Iwakuma, Chan Ho Park, Matsui (Hideki, who had a lot of power and drove in runs), Nomo were some other very good all-star caliber Asian players. Heck, even Kaz Matsui and Aoki had some productive years. And now of course Ohtani who appears to be an excellent productive hitter. 

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Jul 3, 2018 13:56:27 GMT -6 astrosdoug said:

Off the top of my head, most of the successful Asian players in MLB are pitchers rather than hitters. Ichiro and Shin-soo Choo would be exceptions.

This list gives a pretty good breakdown of how many players from each country are currently major leaguers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Major_League_Baseball_players_by_nationality

Tommy Pham is an interesting case; a great hitter, with a Vietnamese father, but his mother is a Black American.

At the end of the day, there are obvious physical and genetic differences between the races, some of which have implications for sports. Being aware of those differences and recognizing their existence isn't the same thing as "racism" the way that idea is traditionally understood.

Half Asian and half black...does that mean he has a medium sized penis?

[Saint]

Jul 3, 2018 13:58:01 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Jul 3, 2018 13:56:27 GMT -6 astrosdoug said:

Off the top of my head, most of the successful Asian players in MLB are pitchers rather than hitters. Ichiro and Shin-soo Choo would be exceptions.

This list gives a pretty good breakdown of how many players from each country are currently major leaguers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Major_League_Baseball_players_by_nationality

Tommy Pham is an interesting case; a great hitter, with a Vietnamese father, but his mother is a Black American.

At the end of the day, there are obvious physical and genetic differences between the races, some of which have implications for sports. Being aware of those differences and recognizing their existence isn't the same thing as "racism" the way that idea is traditionally understood.

Half Asian and half black...does that mean he has a medium sized penis?

No, still small.  But he runs fast AND is good at math.

[astrosdoug]

Jul 3, 2018 13:58:01 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Jul 3, 2018 13:56:27 GMT -6 astrosdoug said:

Off the top of my head, most of the successful Asian players in MLB are pitchers rather than hitters. Ichiro and Shin-soo Choo would be exceptions.

This list gives a pretty good breakdown of how many players from each country are currently major leaguers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Major_League_Baseball_players_by_nationality

Tommy Pham is an interesting case; a great hitter, with a Vietnamese father, but his mother is a Black American.

At the end of the day, there are obvious physical and genetic differences between the races, some of which have implications for sports. Being aware of those differences and recognizing their existence isn't the same thing as "racism" the way that idea is traditionally understood.

Half Asian and half black...does that mean he has a medium sized penis?

You'd have to get to know him well, but my guess is that he's not into Armed Frogs. 

[blcoach8]

Jul 3, 2018 13:57:24 GMT -6 Saint said:

Jul 3, 2018 13:43:49 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Nothing racist intended.  Ichiro was a great hitter. Name me one other Asian who produced at that level over that period of time.  Most a complementary players who never hit with power or drive in runs.  I am not in favor of having guys on the team due to his race nor am I in favor of not adding a good player due to his race.   I can remember when letters appeared in the Houston Chronicle claiming the Astros were a racist organization for not having a black player at that time.  They were sometimes called racists when they traded away black players.  I remember hearing some people whine that we didn't have enough Hispanic players when the Dodgers kept pitching Fernando Valenzuela against theim in the Asltrodome and beating them.  Countless numbers of Hispanic fans showed up waving the Mexican flag and pulling for the Dodgers to beat the Astros because of Valenzuela.  I am sure some of them were the same people labeling the Astros as racists for not having more Hispanics on the roster.

Ichiro was another level.  There haven't been many white, hispanic, or black players that good during his generation.  That's an unreasonable benchmark.

Shin-Soo Choo is very productive and has been good for a long time. Tanaka, Darvish, Kuroda, Iwakuma, Chan Ho Park, Matsui (Hideki, who had a lot of power and drove in runs), Nomo were some other very good all-star caliber Asian players. Heck, even Kaz Matsui and Aoki had some productive years. And now of course Ohtani who appears to be an excellent productive hitter. 

Darvish has spent as much time on the DL as he has in a rotation. Chan Ho Park was good for a short period of time.  Hideki Matsui is one I had forgotten.  Shin Soo-Choo is another good hitter but has been on the DL a lot and is being overpaid.  Most were pitchers and most had a tendency to spend long periods on the DL due to only pitching about once a week in Japan, then, they come here and are asked to work more often and can hold up under the added work.

Ichiro is by far the best Asian player to ever come here.  I liked Aoki as a part-time player.

[thomasj13]

Jul 3, 2018 12:57:15 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Jul 3, 2018 11:16:38 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Unless there is another Ichiro out there, I can do without an Asian.

Damn, that was racist. What do you have against Chinamen?

Hell yeah it was racist, you would think he be Pro-Asians, with their eyes their genetically designed to hit or layoff sliders...

[thomasj13]

Jul 3, 2018 15:01:27 GMT -6 thomasj13 said:

Jul 3, 2018 12:57:15 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Damn, that was racist. What do you have against Chinamen?

Hell yeah it was racist, you would think he be Pro-Asians, with their eyes they're genetically designed to hit or layoff sliders...

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Nothing wrong with racism. It's a genetically transmitted phenomenon. Even animals have it.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Also, most racial stereotypes are accurate.

[thomasj13]

Jul 3, 2018 15:06:44 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Nothing wrong with racism. It's a genetically transmitted phenomenon. Even animals have it.

Even fruit, example: berries.

[Saint]

Jul 3, 2018 15:07:56 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Also, most racial stereotypes are accurate.

That. Is. Offensive.

[thomasj13]

Jul 3, 2018 15:21:17 GMT -6 Saint said:

Jul 3, 2018 15:07:56 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Also, most racial stereotypes are accurate.

That. Is. Offensive.

It is true, redheads do give better head.

[unionstation82]

Jul 3, 2018 15:06:44 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Nothing wrong with racism. It's a genetically transmitted phenomenon. Even animals have it.

I know you colluded with the Russians before this trolling.

[blcoach8]

Lots of people are offended by facts.....especially the liberal snowflakes who spend all of their time looking for something to whine or bitch about. Most racists in this country are black.

Had a friend who said "If it's the truth, it ain't racist"........and he is 100% right

[bearbryant]

This thread is abominable. Bregman deserves better

[batman007]

In all honesty, Bregman has good trade value right now. We could try and flip him at the dead line for maybe another starter. Chris Sale maybe?

[thomasj13]

Jul 4, 2018 21:26:50 GMT -6 batman007 said:

In all honesty, Bregman has good trade value right now. We could try and flip him at the dead line for maybe another starter. Chris Sale maybe?

You don't post as much as you use to.

Sincerely,

Pisser.

[blcoach8]

Jul 4, 2018 21:26:50 GMT -6 batman007 said:

In all honesty, Bregman has good trade value right now. We could try and flip him at the dead line for maybe another starter. Chris Sale maybe?

I trust you were being sarcastic by even thinking about trading Bregman.  If not, I am worried about you.

[Saint]

Technically he does have excellent trade value right now....

[blcoach8]

Jul 5, 2018 5:36:26 GMT -6 Saint said:

Technically he does have excellent trade value right now....

Yes, but, we would be foolish to even consider trading him.

[Saint]

Jul 5, 2018 11:11:47 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Jul 5, 2018 5:36:26 GMT -6 Saint said:

Technically he does have excellent trade value right now....

Yes, but, we would be foolish to even consider trading him.

Probably.  Always depends on the deal though.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Jul 5, 2018 5:36:26 GMT -6 Saint said:

Technically he does have excellent trade value right now....

So does Altuve. And Verlander. 

[Saint]

Jul 5, 2018 11:40:21 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Jul 5, 2018 5:36:26 GMT -6 Saint said:

Technically he does have excellent trade value right now....

So does Altuve. And Verlander. 

Altuve is not as much as it was now that he's making the crazy dollars. 

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Every team in the league would empty their farm for Altuve.

[Saint]

Jul 5, 2018 12:10:18 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Every team in the league would empty their farm for Altuve.

Not teams with money constraints and/or good 2B.

[blcoach8]

Jul 5, 2018 11:52:38 GMT -6 Saint said:

Jul 5, 2018 11:40:21 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

So does Altuve. And Verlander. 

Altuve is not as much as it was now that he's making the crazy dollars. 

In today's market, we got more than our money's worth for Altuve before he signed his big contract.  We got him at a discount while he won batting titles and led us to a WS title.