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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 7:21:43 GMT -6
July 6: RF Garcia overruns pop fly by Gurriel. Two runs score as ball lands in fair territory behind fielder. Official scorer rules it as both a sac fly and E9.
April 7: 1B Hosmer overruns pop fly by Bregman. One run scores as ball lands in fair territory behind fielder. Official scorer rules it as a single.
Why are they ruled differently?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 7:37:32 GMT -6
Good questions.
The role of the Official Scorer is IMO maybe the least regulated part of baseball. Though i can remember the COB office overruling a few times, these guys pretty much go unabated in their judgement.
And sadly, I can think of a few examples where the home team scorer has let a gold glove candidate off the hook for what looked like a pretty easy E call. Or a E given to a player to avoid giving the Ace Pitcher earned runs.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 7:41:28 GMT -6
So, you’re saying the position has its share of corruption?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 7:46:04 GMT -6
So, you’re saying the position has its share of corruption? I doubt I could prove it. It just might be a case of "Homerism" Funny though, you bring it up. Think of all the contract money on the table that has ties to statistical performance. (Channeling my inner OMB) |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 7:52:41 GMT -6
I always thought the rule was that if the ball doesn’t touch the fielder, it’s an automatic hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 7:55:40 GMT -6
So if a pop up lands one foot from a fielder untouched?............
Another head scratcher i thought of, is sometimes how do they come up with the winning P if the starter doesn't go 5. Never got a straight answer on that one either.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 7:56:41 GMT -6
So if a pop up lands one foot from a fielder untouched?............ It happened to Hosmer on that pop up, which was called a single. The majority of inside-the-park home runs are the result of bad routes or miscues by outfielders. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 7:58:03 GMT -6
Yep...have have seen missed popups as errors too. In fact that is pretty much a given (most of the time)
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 7:59:04 GMT -6
So if a pop up lands one foot from a fielder untouched?............ Another head scratcher i thought of, is sometimes how do they come up with the winning P if the starter doesn't go 5. Never got a straight answer on that one either. LOL Mike Fiers used to make that confusing. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 8:00:23 GMT -6
Yep...have have seen missed popups as errors too. In fact that is pretty much a given (most of the time) From what I’ve seen, when infielders stop moving, look settled, and the ball drops, that’s an error even if the ball lands foul. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 8:05:17 GMT -6
Yep...have have seen missed popups as errors too. In fact that is pretty much a given (most of the time) From what I’ve seen, when infielders stop moving, look settled, and the ball drops, that’s an error even if the ball lands foul. Pretty much true 90% of the time. I mentioned earlier about the contactual money aspects. Baseball should put in a 3 man committee (jury) maybe in NY like the replay guys, for scoring. Sure would take the discretionary aspect away from the game. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 7, 2018 8:23:05 GMT -6
From what I’ve seen, when infielders stop moving, look settled, and the ball drops, that’s an error even if the ball lands foul. Pretty much true 90% of the time. I mentioned earlier about the contactual money aspects. Baseball should put in a 3 man committee (jury) maybe in NY like the replay guys, for scoring. Sure would take the discretionary aspect away from the game. I wish more people would be honest like Joe Girardi during the playoffs. He’d openly admit that he’d talk about certain plays with umpires or use replays as a last ditch effort to reverse unfavorable calls. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 7, 2018 10:28:07 GMT -6
All I can think of is that Hosmer ran a long way in and it would be tough to decide who should catch it.
Yesterday there was only one option for who should catch it?
Good question.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 7, 2018 11:17:55 GMT -6
Gurriel should be credited with a double. I won't be surprised to see the ruling of an error be over-turned.
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