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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 5, 2018 22:20:57 GMT -6
Now,we may be seeing why Luhnow meeded to make a move for a bat who plays the OF at the deadline. This is one thing we’ve agreed on. It’s one thing if McCullers gets hurt since this rotation is stacked, but the offense needed help simply because of the decline of Marwin. The way things are now, they need the HEB Trio out there healthy fairly urgently. Oakland isn’t going away anytime soon. Oakland hasn't dealt with as many injuries to position players as the Astros. If Davis, Lowrie, or other key players do down or if any of them slump, they will cool off. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 6, 2018 0:00:04 GMT -6
This game seemed to drag on and on... The second pitch to Dozier in his RBI at-bat was def a strike... changed the whole complexion of that AB. Had the right call been made, maybe LAD doesn't get those two runs and the Astros win. Lots of leadoff men on for the Astros and they never come home. Yuli with a good opposite field drive that probably would have scored the tying run had it found open grass. Still, can't win many games on only five hits. With Springer, Correa, and Altuve all out at once, maybe that is about all we can expect. Just watched the replay of the game, that call said it all. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 0:03:47 GMT -6
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 6, 2018 0:07:46 GMT -6
Traveling, only getting to watch replays. It was great taking the series, with the back up unit. A tough loss today. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 6, 2018 3:05:44 GMT -6
I was just looking over the stats of our guys at AA and AAA. If Springer has to go on the DL, we don’t really have any outfielders at AA or AAA who are doing much with the bat lately. It would appear the chief candidates would be Tucker, Fisher, and Straw. I can't imagine they would add Yordan Alvarez to the 40-man this soon and give him a shot... I'm not even sure they would give a spot on the 40-man to Straw. Kemmer has been a very consistent outfielder the past few years but hasn't played so well this year. Always seems quite solid in spring training though. I guess he is a possibility too. |
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 6, 2018 5:25:14 GMT -6
This game seemed to drag on and on... The second pitch to Dozier in his RBI at-bat was def a strike... changed the whole complexion of that AB. Had the right call been made, maybe LAD doesn't get those two runs and the Astros win. Lots of leadoff men on for the Astros and they never come home. Yuli with a good opposite field drive that probably would have scored the tying run had it found open grass. Still, can't win many games on only five hits. With Springer, Correa, and Altuve all out at once, maybe that is about all we can expect. Just watched the replay of the game, that call said it all. It was strike 2. Clearly in the zone. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 6, 2018 6:51:35 GMT -6
I was just looking over the stats of our guys at AA and AAA. If Springer has to go on the DL, we don’t really have any outfielders at AA or AAA who are doing much with the bat lately. It would appear the chief candidates would be Tucker, Fisher, and Straw. I can't imagine they would add Yordan Alvarez to the 40-man this soon and give him a shot... I'm not even sure they would give a spot on the 40-man to Straw. h Kemmer has been a very consistent outfielder the past few years but hasn't played so well this year. Always seems quite solid in spring training though. I guess he is a possibility too. Whichever one they bring up would likely sit a lot while Kemp, Marisnick and Reddick start and get most of the playing time. For this reason I would bet it would be Fisher. If they were going to use Tucker in a part time role for the rest of this season, I don’t think they would have sent him back down to AAA in the first place. So I think Fisher would get the call up to Houston now and Tucker would play full time with Fresno until their season ends in early September and then join the Astros. Concerning Alvarez and Straw..., Alvarez is not ready now and is not eligible for the Rule 5 draft until December 2019, so it is highly unlikely that he would be added to the 40-man roster and called up now. Straw will have to be added to the 40-man roster or be exposed to the Rule 5 draft this December. If he had not gone into the slump he has been in for the last month, he might have been added to the 40-man roster and called up now. Since he has looked so bad lately though, I just can’t see him getting called up at this time. Kemmer is no longer in the Astros organization. He was traded to Minnesota a month ago. He is playing for their AAA Rochester team. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 6, 2018 6:55:44 GMT -6
Thanks for the update on Kemmer. I'm glad to hear he is getting a shot elsewhere, hopefully in an organization that may have more space for him on their MLB roster.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 8:03:48 GMT -6
This game seemed to drag on and on... The second pitch to Dozier in his RBI at-bat was def a strike... changed the whole complexion of that AB. Had the right call been made, maybe LAD doesn't get those two runs and the Astros win. Lots of leadoff men on for the Astros and they never come home. Yuli with a good opposite field drive that probably would have scored the tying run had it found open grass. Still, can't win many games on only five hits. With Springer, Correa, and Altuve all out at once, maybe that is about all we can expect. I try to be patient with the new guys, but the loss was not only on Cole but White and Davis too. The inning where Bregman and Marwin got on base set those guys up for at least one RBI. K’s and GIDP’s won’t get you anywhere. I still think White or someone else should’ve bunted, but we don’t do National League ball in these parts. We just do reckless baserunning. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 6, 2018 8:34:39 GMT -6
Davis is hitting .179 over the past two weeks, encompassing 28 PAs with no walks and no XBHs. The way he hit in spring training, we all expected much more from him by this point in the season.
White's big mistake in the last game was that he deviated from his normal game plan and started swinging and stuff outside the zone. Buehler was mostly pitching him away and outside, and had White just been patient, he could have worked a walk or two instead of striking out twice. He wised up in his final AB and got a single off of Jansen, which is difficult to do. But it was too late by that point.
I don't know if the daytime game gave a certain glare or something to the field (from the batter's perspective) that caused some hitters to swing at stuff they shouldn't. Certainly the early afternoon sun looked to be hard on the fielders.
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Post by Saint on Aug 6, 2018 8:38:24 GMT -6
This game seemed to drag on and on... The second pitch to Dozier in his RBI at-bat was def a strike... changed the whole complexion of that AB. Had the right call been made, maybe LAD doesn't get those two runs and the Astros win. Lots of leadoff men on for the Astros and they never come home. Yuli with a good opposite field drive that probably would have scored the tying run had it found open grass. Still, can't win many games on only five hits. With Springer, Correa, and Altuve all out at once, maybe that is about all we can expect. I try to be patient with the new guys, but the loss was not only on Cole but White and Davis too. The inning where Bregman and Marwin got on base set those guys up for at least one RBI. K’s and GIDP’s won’t get you anywhere. I still think White or someone else should’ve bunted, but we don’t do National League ball in these parts. We just do reckless baserunning. "I try to be patient with the new guys" You do? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 9:23:57 GMT -6
I try to be patient with the new guys, but the loss was not only on Cole but White and Davis too. The inning where Bregman and Marwin got on base set those guys up for at least one RBI. K’s and GIDP’s won’t get you anywhere. I still think White or someone else should’ve bunted, but we don’t do National League ball in these parts. We just do reckless baserunning. "I try to be patient with the new guys" You do? Yes, the same way you were with Gurriel. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 6, 2018 10:32:53 GMT -6
"I try to be patient with the new guys" You do? Yes, the same way you were with Gurriel. You get me all wrong, Broheim. I have nothing against Gurriel at all. I think he is a solid hitter with a little defensive versatility, and he is obviously shining with RISP (and he appears to be well-liked in teh clubhouse). My argument against him is not meant to be complaints about his faults so much as it is to show support for some of our other players who get seem to get hammered on the board. You can't badmouth White's supposed lack of power as a 1B but then say Gurriel is a great 1B when he has even less power, for example. I'm fine with Gurriel. (Although I wouldn't bring him back if he was a free agent unless he was super cheap, just like my thoughts on Gattis.) |
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 6, 2018 10:34:06 GMT -6
Fisher gets called up.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 6, 2018 10:50:10 GMT -6
Explains the Gone Fisher sign on Springer's Locker. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 6, 2018 11:08:15 GMT -6
Yes, the same way you were with Gurriel. You get me all wrong, Broheim. I have nothing against Gurriel at all. I think he is a solid hitter with a little defensive versatility, and he is obviously shining with RISP (and he appears to be well-liked in teh clubhouse). My argument against him is not meant to be complaints about his faults so much as it is to show support for some of our other players who get seem to get hammered on the board. You can't badmouth White's supposed lack of power as a 1B but then say Gurriel is a great 1B when he has even less power, for example. I'm fine with Gurriel. (Although I wouldn't bring him back if he was a free agent unless he was super cheap, just like my thoughts on Gattis.) If you were in charge.......and we are all thankful you are not.......who would you bring back? You don't want Gurriel or Gattis......who do you have as replacements? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 6, 2018 11:09:52 GMT -6
Explains the Gone Fisher sign on Springer's Locker. I understand that tests on Springer all came back negative so he may not need to go on the .DL. If he does, I hope it is NOt Fisher. I had rather have Tucker., |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 6, 2018 11:14:49 GMT -6
Robert Murray of The Athletic said about 5 hours ago that Fisher is being called up to replace Springer. I haven't seen an official announcement from the team, though.
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Post by Saint on Aug 6, 2018 11:15:18 GMT -6
You get me all wrong, Broheim. I have nothing against Gurriel at all. I think he is a solid hitter with a little defensive versatility, and he is obviously shining with RISP (and he appears to be well-liked in teh clubhouse). My argument against him is not meant to be complaints about his faults so much as it is to show support for some of our other players who get seem to get hammered on the board. You can't badmouth White's supposed lack of power as a 1B but then say Gurriel is a great 1B when he has even less power, for example. I'm fine with Gurriel. (Although I wouldn't bring him back if he was a free agent unless he was super cheap, just like my thoughts on Gattis.) If you were in charge.......and we are all thankful you are not.......who would you bring back? You don't want Gurriel or Gattis......who do you have as replacements? It's called a Free Agent Market. I'd have to see who was available. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 6, 2018 11:54:06 GMT -6
This game seemed to drag on and on... The second pitch to Dozier in his RBI at-bat was def a strike... changed the whole complexion of that AB. Had the right call been made, maybe LAD doesn't get those two runs and the Astros win. Lots of leadoff men on for the Astros and they never come home. Yuli with a good opposite field drive that probably would have scored the tying run had it found open grass. Still, can't win many games on only five hits. With Springer, Correa, and Altuve all out at once, maybe that is about all we can expect. I try to be patient with the new guys, but the loss was not only on Cole but White and Davis too. The inning where Bregman and Marwin got on base set those guys up for at least one RBI. K’s and GIDP’s won’t get you anywhere. I still think White or someone else should’ve bunted, but we don’t do National League ball in these parts. We just do reckless baserunning. When your whole up the middle players are out of the lineup with injuries, talking C, SS, 2nd and CF. You got to think small ball. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 11:54:39 GMT -6
Yes, the same way you were with Gurriel. You get me all wrong, Broheim. I have nothing against Gurriel at all. I think he is a solid hitter with a little defensive versatility, and he is obviously shining with RISP (and he appears to be well-liked in teh clubhouse). My argument against him is not meant to be complaints about his faults so much as it is to show support for some of our other players who get seem to get hammered on the board. You can't badmouth White's supposed lack of power as a 1B but then say Gurriel is a great 1B when he has even less power, for example. I'm fine with Gurriel. (Although I wouldn't bring him back if he was a free agent unless he was super cheap, just like my thoughts on Gattis.) I don’t care too much about power for a 1B, but it’d be nice to have. There’s nothing wrong with a Mark Grace or Doug Mientkasomething (Twins and Red Sox former 1B) if they can contribute decently. My thing is if people like talking up White or Davis, then it’s okay to criticize certain AB’s. Mr. Great White shouldn’t swing at a pitch around his head. Davis should pop more than 1 homer with rare XBH. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 11:57:11 GMT -6
Robert Murray of The Athletic said about 5 hours ago that Fisher is being called up to replace Springer. I haven't seen an official announcement from the team, though. He better effing wear those baserunning oven mitts when he gets back. The Astros can’t afford any more major injuries. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 6, 2018 12:00:18 GMT -6
You get me all wrong, Broheim. I have nothing against Gurriel at all. I think he is a solid hitter with a little defensive versatility, and he is obviously shining with RISP (and he appears to be well-liked in teh clubhouse). My argument against him is not meant to be complaints about his faults so much as it is to show support for some of our other players who get seem to get hammered on the board. You can't badmouth White's supposed lack of power as a 1B but then say Gurriel is a great 1B when he has even less power, for example. I'm fine with Gurriel. (Although I wouldn't bring him back if he was a free agent unless he was super cheap, just like my thoughts on Gattis.) I don’t care too much about power for a 1B, but it’d be nice to have. There’s nothing wrong with a Mark Grace or Doug Mientkasomething (Twins and Red Sox former 1B) if they can contribute decently. My thing is if people like talking up White or Davis, then it’s okay to criticize certain AB’s. Mr. Great White shouldn’t swing at a pitch around his head. Davis should pop more than 1 homer with rare XBH. One comment that I usually cannot defend when talking to the Yankee folks is prospect potential. The Yankees bring up players from Scranton and they produce most of the time with immediate results. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 6, 2018 12:00:56 GMT -6
You get me all wrong, Broheim. I have nothing against Gurriel at all. I think he is a solid hitter with a little defensive versatility, and he is obviously shining with RISP (and he appears to be well-liked in teh clubhouse). My argument against him is not meant to be complaints about his faults so much as it is to show support for some of our other players who get seem to get hammered on the board. You can't badmouth White's supposed lack of power as a 1B but then say Gurriel is a great 1B when he has even less power, for example. I'm fine with Gurriel. (Although I wouldn't bring him back if he was a free agent unless he was super cheap, just like my thoughts on Gattis.) I don’t care too much about power for a 1B, but it’d be nice to have. There’s nothing wrong with a Mark Grace or Doug Mientkasomething (Twins and Red Sox former 1B) if they can contribute decently. My thing is if people like talking up White or Davis, then it’s okay to criticize certain AB’s. Mr. Great White shouldn’t swing at a pitch around his head. Davis should pop more than 1 homer with rare XBH. Sure, but even superstars have bad days and bad ABs. Just because a young player goes through a rough patch doesn't mean they suck. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 13:24:46 GMT -6
I don’t care too much about power for a 1B, but it’d be nice to have. There’s nothing wrong with a Mark Grace or Doug Mientkasomething (Twins and Red Sox former 1B) if they can contribute decently. My thing is if people like talking up White or Davis, then it’s okay to criticize certain AB’s. Mr. Great White shouldn’t swing at a pitch around his head. Davis should pop more than 1 homer with rare XBH. Sure, but even superstars have bad days and bad ABs. Just because a young player goes through a rough patch doesn't mean they suck. You’re a ray of sunshine unless we’re talking about Maldonado. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 13:30:25 GMT -6
I try to be patient with the new guys, but the loss was not only on Cole but White and Davis too. The inning where Bregman and Marwin got on base set those guys up for at least one RBI. K’s and GIDP’s won’t get you anywhere. I still think White or someone else should’ve bunted, but we don’t do National League ball in these parts. We just do reckless baserunning. When your whole up the middle players are out of the lineup with injuries, talking C, SS, 2nd and CF. You got to think small ball. Sorry, small ball is banned on this team. |
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 6, 2018 13:41:09 GMT -6
Fisher up. Springer on 10 day DL with left thumb sprain.
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Post by Saint on Aug 6, 2018 13:43:36 GMT -6
Sure, but even superstars have bad days and bad ABs. Just because a young player goes through a rough patch doesn't mean they suck. You’re a ray of sunshine unless we’re talking about Maldonado. I've complimented him on what he is good at, and I have no issues with him as a backup. He's just not, nor should he be, a replacement for Stassi. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 6, 2018 13:58:15 GMT -6
You’re a ray of sunshine unless we’re talking about Maldonado. I've complimented him on what he is good at, and I have no issues with him as a backup. He's just not, nor should he be, a replacement for Stassi. After you whined about his passed balls, you charlatan! |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 6, 2018 14:02:27 GMT -6
Robert Murray of The Athletic said about 5 hours ago that Fisher is being called up to replace Springer. I haven't seen an official announcement from the team, though. Fisher??? Hell, I had much rather have Tucker back. My guess is Fisher got the call because of his experience in CF. |
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