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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2018 9:41:10 GMT -6
I do not think that a true closer is mandatory for winning the world series. I would say based on last year, I would say no...but I think the Astros would be better if they had one....plus a key one in the 8th inning. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 5, 2018 10:59:02 GMT -6
I was implying the current team does not have a true closer. Peacock, apparently. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2018 11:13:54 GMT -6
All kidding aside, would you want Peacock to be the closer over Giles?
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 5, 2018 12:47:21 GMT -6
I do not think that a true closer is mandatory for winning the world series. We sure proved that. I’m glad Hinch went with the hot hand instead of standard operating procedure with the bullpen. His intelligence as a manager had shone brightly in the postseason. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 5, 2018 13:35:07 GMT -6
All kidding aside, would you want Peacock to be the closer over Giles? Upset? No. But Peacock has more value as a long reliever/spot starter, imo. Plus, Giles did well overall in normal save opportunities. He just doesn't do well in any other type of situation.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2018 13:57:21 GMT -6
Personally, I don't want Giles as the closer....I think he would be a good primary set-up pitcher....and a fill-in closer, but come playoff time, don't want him on the mound, when the pressure is the highest.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 5, 2018 16:03:51 GMT -6
Plus, Giles did well overall in normal save opportunities. He just doesn't do well in any other type of situation.... Yeah, like in the postseason. Did he even have a scoreless outing? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 5, 2018 16:04:32 GMT -6
Personally, I don't want Giles as the closer....I think he would be a good primary set-up pitcher....and a fill-in closer, but come playoff time, don't want him on the mound, when the pressure is the highest. I want Giles to be the closer. I just don’t believe in him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 5, 2018 16:07:40 GMT -6
I like the idea of Peacock being our Andrew Miller, but, he may have to become the closer if Giles can't get the job done. Right now, I don't think anyone trusts Giles to close a one or two run game.
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2018 16:21:14 GMT -6
I like the idea of Peacock being our Andrew Miller, but, he may have to become the closer if Giles can't get the job done. Right now, I don't think anyone trusts Giles to close a one or two run game. would you trust him in a 3 run game to start the inning? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 6, 2018 9:27:28 GMT -6
awful big risk they took firing Girardi when they had a good clubhouse and the players liked him
Kapler reminds me of when Wade hired Bowa to manage the Phillies and he lasted one season
Was he fired or not re-hired? Either way, I was surprised he was let go. His team was just one win away from the World Series. It’s not his fault that the Yankees couldn’t hit a curveball. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 6, 2018 9:31:06 GMT -6
would you trust him in a 3 run game to start the inning? Sometimes, Giles will play the Keuchel game and keep throwing balls out of the zone in hopes he gets swings and then loses a hitter or two. For the most part, Peacock can pitch more aggressively, despite having slower stuff, and still get the desired output from the batters. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 6, 2018 9:49:27 GMT -6
would you trust him in a 3 run game to start the inning? Sometimes, Giles will play the Keuchel game and keep throwing balls out of the zone in hopes he gets swings and then loses a hitter or two. For the most part, Peacock can pitch more aggressively, despite having slower stuff, and still get the desired output from the batters. Giles can't play the Keuchel game, he just doesn't have the touch....Maybe that will come in time, but if it doesn't, and his velocity starts to go down, he will be waiver fodder. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 6, 2018 10:19:40 GMT -6
Plus, Giles did well overall in normal save opportunities. He just doesn't do well in any other type of situation.... Yeah, like in the postseason. Did he even have a scoreless outing? I don't remember and I'm too lazy to look up game logs. It was bad though. Still though, given that he did have quite a good regular season, the postseason performance could be looked at as a potential fluke. I don't think he should be given up on at this point. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 6, 2018 15:15:01 GMT -6
I’m torn with Giles. I don’t want to give up on him, and I want him to be the unquestioned closer, but I just don’t have much faith in the guy. You can’t say Hinch does either.
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Post by m240 on Apr 6, 2018 16:25:45 GMT -6
sure wish we had Hader back
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 6, 2018 16:37:52 GMT -6
sure wish we had Hader back yeah. i saw him pitch against the Padres and he was brutal. 1-2-3, struck out the side like nobody's business. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 8, 2018 9:54:55 GMT -6
Speaking of good teams on paper, the Brewers just added Yelich with Knebel to the DL with the annoying oblique strain. Things are starting to get dull in Milwaukee.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 8, 2018 11:29:12 GMT -6
While people seem to be worried so much about the "closer situation", it looks like the Astros' real problem (if one can say a 6-2 team has any major problems) is on the the hitting side. Strikeouts are at nearly 30% this young season, whereas last season they had been contained to 19.3%. Last year the Astros swung and missed on only 8.5% of pitches and now that rate is way up too. It's almost like the guys aren't seeing the ball as well or their hand/eye coordination skills have slipped.
Altuve and Bregman are exceptions to this trend -- they are actually striking out less than they did last year. Bregman's low batting avg should in no way be a concern. He's doing everything right;; eventually he will get rewarded for it. And Altuve is still in MVP form. But everyone else (esp Fisher, Davis, Marisnick, Gattis, and Marwin) need to be evaluated to see if they can do better, or if they need to be replaced. Tony Kemp down in the minors hardly ever strikes out, and Tyler White posts a consistent 24% K rate which would be a bit above the 2017 team's 19% average but not as high as the 30-to-50% rates being posted by those guys I just mentioned. Can't put they ball in play when you strike out, and can't get a hit if the ball isn't in play -- simple as that.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 9, 2018 11:25:59 GMT -6
Out of all of them, my tolerance with Gattis is the least. The man has one job on the team - hitting. If he can’t do that reliably enough, why is he here? He’s a terrible outfielder and an average catcher at best. There has to be someone out there who can outplay him.
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Post by marshall on Apr 9, 2018 11:41:36 GMT -6
Stassi is making a case for himself that he might need to share time in the DH role. I'm sure Gattis has a long leash, but it is a leash.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 10, 2018 15:33:48 GMT -6
Stassi is making a case for himself that he might need to share time in the DH role. I'm sure Gattis has a long leash, but it is a leash. Gattis looks like a lumberjack and has a cool beard. That’s pretty much why he is beloved. |
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