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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 12, 2018 16:56:03 GMT -6
Maybe there’s something to bearbryant’s theory of Beltrán being the glue guy, the guy who taught them what pitches to look for and how to battle in counts. Whatever the case may be, this is not last year’s team.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 12, 2018 17:17:09 GMT -6
Can you imagine last year’s offense paired with the pitching staff we have this year?
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 12, 2018 17:20:08 GMT -6
Can you imagine last year’s offense paired with the pitching staff we have this year? It could have been a record setting winning percentage. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 12, 2018 17:51:01 GMT -6
Hinch needs to figure out why he has a great team on the road and one with no life at home. What is going on OFF the field when they are at home that is causing this crap? Too many distractions. It's the HEB commercial curse. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 12, 2018 17:57:42 GMT -6
Maybe there’s something to bearbryant’s theory of Beltrán being the glue guy, the guy who taught them what pitches to look for and how to battle in counts. Whatever the case may be, this is not last year’s team. I think Bear has a point |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 12, 2018 18:25:44 GMT -6
Maybe there’s something to bearbryant’s theory of Beltrán being the glue guy, the guy who taught them what pitches to look for and how to battle in counts. Whatever the case may be, this is not last year’s team. Last year’s team was hungry for a championship. This year’s team is not. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 12, 2018 18:36:03 GMT -6
Maybe there’s something to bearbryant’s theory of Beltrán being the glue guy, the guy who taught them what pitches to look for and how to battle in counts. Whatever the case may be, this is not last year’s team. Last year’s team was hungry for a championship. This year’s team is not. Didn't the Astros suck in August before acquiring Verlander? |
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 12, 2018 19:00:22 GMT -6
Last year’s team was hungry for a championship. This year’s team is not. Didn't the Astros suck in August before acquiring Verlander? They didn't suck thru July last year and didn't lose 8 straight at home. The offense at least showed up this year they aren't hitting even when they pitch well. Scoring 2-3 Runs game is losing Baseball on most days. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 12, 2018 19:09:10 GMT -6
Last year’s team was hungry for a championship. This year’s team is not. Didn't the Astros suck in August before acquiring Verlander? Yes they did. With the starting rotation Luhnow assembled in the offseason, this year’s team should have been better than last years team from the get go...and would have been had the position players not been indifferent at the plate much of the year. This team started sucking before August. Unfortunately there is not going to be a bat available at the waiver deadline this year that can do for the offense what Verlander did for the pitching staff last season. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 12, 2018 19:15:55 GMT -6
Last year’s team was hungry for a championship. This year’s team is not. Didn't the Astros suck in August before acquiring Verlander? Yup, but I’m mixed on the whole situation. This year, there’s no Altuve or Springer in the lineup, which affects things. Things will get better when they come back. I have no explanation for Correa. Maybe he’s still hurt. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 12, 2018 19:16:25 GMT -6
Didn't the Astros suck in August before acquiring Verlander? Yes they did. With the starting rotation Luhnow assembled in the offseason, this year’s team should have been better than last years team from the get go...and would have been had the position players not been indifferent at the plate much of the year. This team started sucking before August. Unfortunately there is not going to be a bat available at the waiver deadline this year that can do for the offense what Verlander did for the pitching staff last season. Not Verlander caliber, but I still see the Astros picking up a veteran/bat whisperer. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 12, 2018 19:17:53 GMT -6
Didn't the Astros suck in August before acquiring Verlander? Yes they did. With the starting rotation Luhnow assembled in the offseason, this year’s team should have been better than last years team from the get go...and would have been had the position players not been indifferent at the plate much of the year. This team started sucking before August. Unfortunately there is not going to be a bat available at the waiver deadline this year that can do for the offense what Verlander did for the pitching staff last season. Injuries to Altuve, Correa and Springer have been a real kick to the balls. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 12, 2018 19:18:07 GMT -6
Yes they did. With the starting rotation Luhnow assembled in the offseason, this year’s team should have been better than last years team from the get go...and would have been had the position players not been indifferent at the plate much of the year. This team started sucking before August. Unfortunately there is not going to be a bat available at the waiver deadline this year that can do for the offense what Verlander did for the pitching staff last season. Not Verlander caliber, but I still see the Astros picking up a veteran/bat whisperer. They really need to. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 12, 2018 21:38:29 GMT -6
The Astros were crowned the West champion this year before the first game was played. I believed it, you believed it, everyone believed that this was true. The pure and simple fact of the matter is that they should be champions of the west based upon the talent of each team. But talent only takes you so far, they are now being challenged and the next two weeks will tell the tale of where this team will wind up. They will either accept the challenge and hold the line or fold up. If they fold up, then talent just did not prove to be enough. If they have the heart of a champion then they will rise up with or without Altuve, Springer, et al.
I remember a time when Bagwell and Biggio were in their prime and someone asked them about the Cardinals. Biggio said "I sure am glad we do not have to play them in the first round". I listened to that and thought to myself that this team will not win the championship. The leaders had no stomach for facing tough situations. To that point somebody on this team has to step up and say, "Let's do this", if no one does then the A's will take 4 or 5 of the games that we play them and the Mariners will duplicate the butt whupping they laid on us this weekend. Time tells all, let's pull for the good guys and hope that they have some character to go with all that talent.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 13, 2018 4:04:51 GMT -6
This series is a continuation of what’s been going on all season. They generally have beaten the crap out of bad teams and struggled against .500 or better teams. At least before they held their own against the Mariners, but this past series was an eye-opener.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 8:29:47 GMT -6
Whew, my parents picked a good weekend to come visit. Glad I missed this garbage over the weekend.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 13, 2018 11:13:33 GMT -6
This series is a continuation of what’s been going on all season. They generally have beaten the crap out of bad teams and struggled against .500 or better teams. At least before they held their own against the Mariners, but this past series was an eye-opener. I see an attitude that was not present last season. With each loss, it's like "no big deal. We are still in first place" "just wait until our injured players return, blah blah, blah........same thing over and over. They ignore the fact that Correa was not producing before he went on the DL and has looked clueless at the plate much of the time. Altuve's power numbers are way down.,....Springer has been in a tailspin......The only guy who has imroved production is Bregman and he hasn 't handled all the publicity and accolades he has receieved very well, He is hitting around .200 since the break and the home run derby, He bkeached hus hair to get more attention which shows a sign of immaturity. It is time for Hinch to hold some of these players accountable and stop with the excuses. They had a chance to bury the Mariners and responded by tanking and gettng sweopt, Oakland is 36-12 since the middle of June and they don't seem on the verge of going away. Now, we let Seattle back n the race, too. But, don't worry........we are in first place.....our injured "superstars" are coming back............and, the main thing, Luhnow still has all of his damn prospects while our offense sucks. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 13, 2018 13:34:29 GMT -6
It might be too much pressure trying to get Tucker to be a significant contributor to the offense.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 13, 2018 13:42:52 GMT -6
It might be too much pressure trying to get Tucker to be a significant contributor to the offense. Tucker is not ready. We desperately nned to make a deal for a hitter. |
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 13, 2018 18:03:09 GMT -6
I called in early July they needed to get a Bat. Gattis and Marwin even though Marwin has hit lately cannot depend on him. Gattis has had one good Month that makes his numbers look good. Gurriel has sucked most of the season along with Reddick. Two or three of them should not have been brought back this year. You can go back as early as May with me saying this.
They got their ring and show no Fire or have the attitude they had last year. This I put on HINCH and Luhnow. Should have sent at least packaging his bags in July. That would wake a couple of them up you would hope.
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 13, 2018 23:20:05 GMT -6
The A's put the screws a little tighter, down to two games. A big game in Oakland, ten grand attending, too bad their fans don't believe in them.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 14, 2018 6:18:05 GMT -6
After these two games at MMP with the Rockies, Astros head for Oakland for three games then to Seattle for three. Oakland players are probably salivating waiting for Houston to arrive on Friday. A’s have their fate in their hands. Could be in first place in AL West by this time next week.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 14, 2018 6:35:21 GMT -6
After these two games at MMP with the Rockies, Astros head for Oakland for three games then to Seattle for three. Oakland players are probably salivating waiting for Houston to arrive on Friday. A’s have their fate in their hands. Could be in first place in AL West by this time next week. Astros, time to win. Correa time. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 14, 2018 6:43:26 GMT -6
After these two games at MMP with the Rockies, Astros head for Oakland for three games then to Seattle for three. Oakland players are probably salivating waiting for Houston to arrive on Friday. A’s have their fate in their hands. Could be in first place in AL West by this time next week. Astros, time to win. Correa time. Yessir. Just like the A’s and Mariners, the Astros have their fate in their hands. Of the three teams Houston has the weakest schedule the rest of the way. If they don’t win the AL West, they have only themselves to blame. If Correa wants to be a MVP, now is the time for him to show that he has what it takes. With Springer and Altuve out he should step up and carry the team..., IF he has what it takes to be a MVP. That is a big IF. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 14, 2018 6:58:57 GMT -6
Astros, time to win. Correa time. Yessir. Just like the A’s and Mariners, the Astros have their fate in their hands. Of the three teams Houston has the weakest schedule the rest of the way. If they don’t win the AL West, they have only themselves to blame. If Correa wants to be a MVP, now is the time for him to show that he has what it takes. With Springer and Altuve out he should step up and carry the team..., IF he has what it takes to be a MVP. That is a big IF. I think he does....but I think a good, experienced veteran hitter, one the younger guys can look up to, added to this team would do wonders... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 14, 2018 7:29:51 GMT -6
Can Correa carry the team? We’ve seen Bregman do it for a stretch this season, Springer did in the World Series, and Altuve always has done so. It’s time for someone to earn their MVP wings.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 14, 2018 8:02:01 GMT -6
After these two games at MMP with the Rockies, Astros head for Oakland for three games then to Seattle for three. Oakland players are probably salivating waiting for Houston to arrive on Friday. A’s have their fate in their hands. Could be in first place in AL West by this time next week. Right now, I had rather play the A's in Oakland instead of MMP. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 14, 2018 8:05:38 GMT -6
Can Correa carry the team? We’ve seen Bregman do it for a stretch this season, Springer did in the World Series, and Altuve always has done so. It’s time for someone to earn their MVP wings. Correa has the ability to carry the team, but, he wasn't doing much before his trip to the DL . His consistently gets behind in the count by taking fastballs that he should hit and then striking out on pitches out of the zone. He is striking out way too much and never seems to make an adjustment. The only hit he got in the Seattle series was on a check swing. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 14, 2018 9:23:22 GMT -6
Can Correa carry the team? We’ve seen Bregman do it for a stretch this season, Springer did in the World Series, and Altuve always has done so. It’s time for someone to earn their MVP wings. Correa has the ability to carry the team, but, he wasn't doing much before his trip to the DL . His consistently gets behind in the count by taking fastballs that he should hit and then striking out on pitches out of the zone. He is striking out way too much and never seems to make an adjustment. The only hit he got in the Seattle series was on a check swing. Don’t get me wrong. He’s been pretty clutch at times. I just don’t recall him putting the team on his shoulders and carrying them for a stretch. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 14, 2018 10:31:04 GMT -6
Yessir. Just like the A’s and Mariners, the Astros have their fate in their hands. Of the three teams Houston has the weakest schedule the rest of the way. If they don’t win the AL West, they have only themselves to blame. If Correa wants to be a MVP, now is the time for him to show that he has what it takes. With Springer and Altuve out he should step up and carry the team..., IF he has what it takes to be a MVP. That is a big IF. I think he does....but I think a good, experienced veteran hitter, one the younger guys can look up to, added to this team would do wonders... The thing is who would be that player, just thinking how Adam Jones turned down a trade to Philly, not to up root his family on a move about an hour away. He would be a good vet presence, but a pipe dream. |
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