Boring

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

The Astros are about the most boring team in the league, this season. I constantly find myself doing other stuff while the game is on. This is the first year this has happened.

[m240]

and so it goes when you teach your guys to either hit a home run, walk, or strike out.  

[Deleted]

I hate to admit it or be negative, but I agree 100%. Last year we had tons of late comeback wins. The majority of our wins this year are due to stellar starting pitching and the offense hitting a couple home runs.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

I hate the 5 games in a row of us being 1-hit, followed by an anomalous game where we score 10 runs, then back to the 1-hitters.

[blcoach8]

I have turned off a few games recently rather than watch them sleep walk through another loss.......If they give a damn about winning, they don't show it.

[unionstation82]

I was dozing off yesterday, and the game was tied. The homer by Canó was like relief to me. I could finally get some rest.

[unionstation82]

Aug 21, 2018 10:40:40 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

I hate the 5 games in a row of us being 1-hit, followed by an anomalous game where we score 10 runs, then back to the 1-hitters.

If they lose, fine, but does the pitching always have to blow close leads the next inning after the offense scores? To me, that’s the worst thing.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Aug 21, 2018 15:19:35 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

Aug 21, 2018 10:40:40 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

I hate the 5 games in a row of us being 1-hit, followed by an anomalous game where we score 10 runs, then back to the 1-hitters.

If they lose, fine, but does the pitching always have to blow close leads the next inning after the offense scores? To me, that’s the worst thing.

As you know, I posted that very question a few weeks ago.

[blcoach8]

Aug 21, 2018 16:05:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

Aug 21, 2018 15:19:35 GMT -6 unionstation82 said:

If they lose, fine, but does the pitching always have to blow close leads the next inning after the offense scores? To me, that’s the worst thing.

As you know, I posted that very question a few weeks ago.

Yes, you did and nothing has changed.......Verlander did it Sunday and Cole continued the tradition last night.

[unionstation82]

Aug 21, 2018 16:07:01 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

Aug 21, 2018 16:05:35 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

As you know, I posted that very question a few weeks ago.

Yes, you did and nothing has changed.......Verlander did it Sunday and Cole continued the tradition last night.

The last four losses at home were because of that same scenario: Morton, Cole, Rondón, and Verlander vs. the Mariners and Rockies.

[Hunter McCormick]

It's only boring because you're in a boring division.  It would be more exiting if you were in the AL Central where the REAL completion is (for who will pick first in next June's draft).  lol

Seriously though, do you think part of the 'boring' is due to the fact the Astros won the big one last year?  I would guess there's a different level of hope and aspiration as a fan, before your team has a recent championship then after.

[m240]

Sept 4, 2018 6:56:33 GMT -6 Hunter McCormick said:

It's only boring because you're in a boring division.  It would be more exiting if you were in the AL Central where the REAL completion is (for who will pick first in next June's draft).  lol

Seriously though, do you think part of the 'boring' is due to the fact the Astros won the big one last year?  I would guess there's a different level of hope and aspiration as a fan, before your team has a recent championship then after.

there is no question that the expectations of just about all the fan base is much higher.  In the past the Astros always figured out how not to win when it counted.  Last year the team figured it out and the team out performed what was expected of them.  This year we were annointed as the central division champion before a game got played.  This year the Angels jumped out ahead and then we put them away, the Mariners jumped up and now are starting to fade, then the A's jumped up and seem to be hanging around.  the fact that they are hanging around troubles most all of us because if you look at the talent on their team it is good but pales in comparison to what we have.  So our expectations are that we are going to win and it gets tiresome when they keep playing around with other teams instead of just putting them away and then we start to worry that perhaps we are falling back into our old pattern.  

[Saint]

I don't feel bored. I just get frustrated by the streakiness.

[ɮօʀȶǟʐ]

Sept 4, 2018 6:56:33 GMT -6 Hunter McCormick said:

It's only boring because you're in a boring division.  It would be more exiting if you were in the AL Central where the REAL completion is (for who will pick first in next June's draft).  lol

Seriously though, do you think part of the 'boring' is due to the fact the Astros won the big one last year?  I would guess there's a different level of hope and aspiration as a fan, before your team has a recent championship then after.

I probably do have WS Hangover.

[Deleted]

I love this team and they do not bore me. However, I do think last year was more exciting because of the many late comeback wins, the terrible circumstances surrounding Hurricane Harvey and how the team responded, & the last minute JV trade.

This year the offense has been so streaky.

[unionstation82]

Sept 4, 2018 9:05:04 GMT -6 Saint said:

I don't feel bored. I just get frustrated by the streakiness.

Theme of the season.

[sempersmom]

Sept 4, 2018 10:11:00 GMT -6 @inluhnowwetrust said:

I love this team and they do not bore me. However, I do think last year was more exciting because of the many late comeback wins, the terrible circumstances surrounding Hurricane Harvey and how the team responded, & the last minute JV trade.

This year the offense has been so streaky.

I agree.  I never get bored.  It seems some of our fans are acting like spoiled brats.

[blcoach8]

We are about due for another hot streak. Three wins now after two pathetic efforts to start the home stand. What is frustrating was to see the team that had so much energy and enthusiasm win the Oakland series and then disappear during the first two games of the Angels series against an inferior team. The offense did enough to win yesterday,but still didn't look good. A return of Altuve to being himself and improvement by COrrea can mean a hug difference. After watching during this current streak, I continue seeing his rear leg collapse during his swing as he extends his right foot away from the plate. This lowers his body and he normally swings under the ball, and, if he hits it, he hits the bottom part of the ball and pops up. He walks away after striking out or popping up looking like he is totally confused about what is going on...Hopefully, this changes soon.

[m240]

Sept 4, 2018 11:11:16 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

We are about due for another hot streak. Three wins now after two pathetic efforts to start the home stand. What is frustrating was to see the team that had so much energy and enthusiasm win the Oakland series and then disappear during the first two games of the Angels series against an inferior team. The offense did enough to win yesterday,but still didn't look good. A return of Altuve to being himself and improvement by COrrea can mean a hug difference. After watching during this current streak, I continue seeing his rear leg collapse during his swing as he extends his right foot away from the plate. This lowers his body and he normally swings under the ball, and, if he hits it, he hits the bottom part of the ball and pops up. He walks away after striking out or popping up looking like he is totally confused about what is going on...Hopefully, this changes soon.

His leg movement during the load shifting is a real big deal.  If his leg is not right, his swing can not be right.  

[blcoach8]

Sept 4, 2018 11:28:03 GMT -6 m240 said:

Sept 4, 2018 11:11:16 GMT -6 blcoach8 said:

We are about due for another hot streak. Three wins now after two pathetic efforts to start the home stand. What is frustrating was to see the team that had so much energy and enthusiasm win the Oakland series and then disappear during the first two games of the Angels series against an inferior team. The offense did enough to win yesterday,but still didn't look good. A return of Altuve to being himself and improvement by COrrea can mean a hug difference. After watching during this current streak, I continue seeing his rear leg collapse during his swing as he extends his right foot away from the plate. This lowers his body and he normally swings under the ball, and, if he hits it, he hits the bottom part of the ball and pops up. He walks away after striking out or popping up looking like he is totally confused about what is going on...Hopefully, this changes soon.

His leg movement during the load shifting is a real big deal.  If his leg is not right, his swing can not be right.  

Absolutely.  Keeping weight on the back leg, hands back in hitting position, and, as Blum likes to say "letting the ball travel" thenk, shifting the weight to the front leg as you bring your hands forward into the hitting position is crucial.  I have noticed that Altuve is doing what I mentioned above with the right leg which produces what I saw.  Video should tell him and Dave Hutchens that.  Correa's major problem is not attacking the center cut fastballs he sees on the first pitch most of the time.   Scouting reports tell opposing pitchers that Carlos does not swing at those pitches so they get ahead in the count by throwing the pitch  they know that he normally takes.,  We have seen him get behind 0-2 by taking fastballs he should hit, and, then striking out swinging at pitches out of the zone.  That is mental and he has to change that approach before he produces as he's capable.
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[Hunter McCormick]

Sept 4, 2018 10:11:00 GMT -6 @inluhnowwetrust said:

I love this team and they do not bore me. However, I do think last year was more exciting because of the many late comeback wins, the terrible circumstances surrounding Hurricane Harvey and how the team responded, & the last minute JV trade.

This year the offense has been so streaky.

I had forgotten about the Hurricane.

Sept 4, 2018 10:55:15 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

I agree.  I never get bored.  It seems some of our fans are acting like spoiled brats.

I used to visit the Royals board occasionally (and several other boards including the Astros)before mlb pulled the plug. Great fans there in 2013. Welcoming to a rival fan like me and after so many seasons in the cellar they were thankful for even being competitive. 2014 had them making it to the big dance as a wild card. 2015 was the championship year and all the glee and excitement that goes along with it.

The regulars who had been around for years were still pretty reasonable in 2016 but the Johnny-come-latelys were insufferable. It was if they expected nothing less than a repeat and when it didn't happen they were whining about it incessantly.

The way I see it, it's always legit to complain a bit if you disagree with the way your team is being run. Or lament when a player or players are slumping. But overall, if the team is competing, enjoy the ride.

[Hunter McCormick]

Sept 4, 2018 9:05:33 GMT -6 ɮօʀȶǟʐ said:

I probably do have WS Hangover.

That's a great metaphor. 

[marshall]

I spent so many years just hoping to see the Astros make it to .500 that I never take any good season for granted. But I do expect the management to be all in on the Astros and not use us as a stepping stone or a rehab assignment like a certain Philadelphia GM.

[talshill]

After the WS last year I was absolutely mentally exhausted. I don't have anxiety issues, but between the series with the Yankees, losing game 1 of the WS, thinking they were going to lose game 2, the roller coaster of game 5, etc. I was a nervous wreck. Having watched Houston in the playoffs for nearly 40 years, I got used to them losing in the most bizarre and unlikely ways possible. I suppose I was waiting for them to blow it last year. When they didn't and finally hoisted the trophy, I was exhausted, exhilarated and mentally spent. I haven't watched as many games this year as last; I think I got used to improbable comebacks and watching a generational offense at work, which hasn't been quite the case this year. I think I'm still hung over from last year. I think the players are too, to an extent. I don't get too down when they go into losing streaks or too optimistic when they win. When it comes to baseball and investing money, always think long-term.

[bearbryant]

Sept 4, 2018 10:55:15 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

Sept 4, 2018 10:11:00 GMT -6 @inluhnowwetrust said:

I love this team and they do not bore me. However, I do think last year was more exciting because of the many late comeback wins, the terrible circumstances surrounding Hurricane Harvey and how the team responded, & the last minute JV trade.

This year the offense has been so streaky.

I agree.  I never get bored.  It seems some of our fans are acting like spoiled brats.

I don't know if it's that. The boys winning a championship a few months ago getting lost in how much they're criticized each day is a little odd. Sometimes I think we're being trolled

[sempersmom]

Sept 4, 2018 19:28:25 GMT -6 bearbryant said:

Sept 4, 2018 10:55:15 GMT -6 sempersmom said:

I agree.  I never get bored.  It seems some of our fans are acting like spoiled brats.

I don't know if it's that. The boys winning a championship a few months ago getting lost in how much they're criticized each day is a little odd. Sometimes I think we're being trolled

Spoiled, trolling, either way they're annoying.

[Saint]

Sept 4, 2018 19:28:03 GMT -6 talshill said:

After the WS last year I was absolutely mentally exhausted. I don't have anxiety issues, but between the series with the Yankees, losing game 1 of the WS, thinking they were going to lose game 2, the roller coaster of game 5, etc. I was a nervous wreck. Having watched Houston in the playoffs for nearly 40 years, I got used to them losing in the most bizarre and unlikely ways possible. I suppose I was waiting for them to blow it last year. When they didn't and finally hoisted the trophy, I was exhausted, exhilarated and mentally spent. I haven't watched as many games this year as last; I think I got used to improbable comebacks and watching a generational offense at work, which hasn't been quite the case this year. I think I'm still hung over from last year. I think the players are too, to an extent. I don't get too down when they go into losing streaks or too optimistic when they win. When it comes to baseball and investing money, always think long-term.

Good post.

I think the players had to be at least a little worn down.  And some of them, like Altuve and Correa were freaking everywhere after as well.  I know they're young healthy guys, but that takes a lot out of people.  Then you come back with an idea that you have to repeat and be just as good or better than last year, and expectations for themselves and from the fans are so high any slump or bad games wears on them.

Really if you look, only Bregman is better than last year.  That's it.  Every other position player (that isn't a AAA promotion) is down from last year quite a bit. I think once they clinch the division and see that they're back to the postseason, we'll see a lot of them bounce back. 

[unionstation82]

The World Series spoiled us. The criticism is mainly from expectations due to last season’s success. Altuve doesn’t look right, and he’s the focal point of the team no matter how well Bregman is doing. There are positives and negatives. Fans naturally are both and switch off and on.