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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 29, 2018 15:50:27 GMT -6
A big salute to the Great White Shark. This guy has been the spark that we needed. When our big guns let us down, Tyler steps up to help Bregman carry the load. I offer a sincere apology for ever suggesting that White be sent back to Fresno. I was dead wrong on that one. We would be in a mess without him.
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Post by Saint on Aug 29, 2018 15:52:15 GMT -6
This guy just keeps on hitting. I think we've found the DH for next year.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 29, 2018 15:53:26 GMT -6
This guy just keeps on hitting. I think we've found the DH for next year. I expect you to start the appreciation thread for Osuna
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Post by Saint on Aug 29, 2018 15:55:02 GMT -6
This guy just keeps on hitting. I think we've found the DH for next year. I expect you to start the appreciation thread for Osuna I never agreed to that. If he can have a few more good outings I'll make one.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 29, 2018 16:19:36 GMT -6
I expect you to start the appreciation thread for Osuna I never agreed to that. If he can have a few more good outings I'll make one. I didn't say you agreed to it, but, you should do it, especially after calling him a wife beater when he has never been married.
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Post by Saint on Aug 29, 2018 17:22:55 GMT -6
I never agreed to that. If he can have a few more good outings I'll make one. I didn't say you agreed to it, but, you should do it, especially after calling him a wife beater when he has never been married. Should take more than a good inning to get an appreciation thread. If he gives us a good week I'll make one.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 29, 2018 19:18:12 GMT -6
I didn't say you agreed to it, but, you should do it, especially after calling him a wife beater when he has never been married. Should take more than a good inning to get an appreciation thread. If he gives us a good week I'll make one. He has had several good innings since he's been with us. More than your boy Stassi has hits in the same time period.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 29, 2018 19:33:12 GMT -6
I expect you to start the appreciation thread for Osuna I never agreed to that. If he can have a few more good outings I'll make one. Osuna's proven to be inconsistent at best. Few closers are infallible; they just have seasons where they appear to be that way. That's why it's an overrated position Giles got it from fans because his stretches of slumping and being ineffective took place over two years. That's probly how long it'll be for Osuna with fans in his corner
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Post by Saint on Aug 29, 2018 19:43:54 GMT -6
Should take more than a good inning to get an appreciation thread. If he gives us a good week I'll make one. He has had several good innings since he's been with us. More than your boy Stassi has hits in the same time period. What does Stassi have to do with the wifebeater?
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 29, 2018 21:54:48 GMT -6
He has had several good innings since he's been with us. More than your boy Stassi has hits in the same time period. What does Stassi have to do with the wifebeater? I realize that you keep calling Osuna a wife beater even though you know that it is false......a guy who has never married can't be a wife beater unless he beats another man's wife and that didn't happen. He will not be convicted of anything. I just compared Osuna's number of good innings to Stassi's number of hits. I thought you may be able to grasp that,but, since you still insist on calling Osuna a wife beater even though you know it 's not true, I can see how that comparison is over your head. You were against trading for Osuna and refuse to concede that Luhnow stole him from Toronto by getting him for a head case who was never going to pitch for us again. Only psychos punch themselves in the face and tell the manager to f*** off when removed from a game. We dumped Giles and got a good, young, proven closer who has been one of the best even though he is still very young. He is also under contract for at least two more years. Another point about Stassi.......I seem to remember you saying Maldonado would be left off the playoff roster and Stassi would make it. Maldonado is a lock for a playoff roster spot unless he in injured at the time. McCann will be activated Saturday which means Stassi will be relegated to the bench and will only be on the playoff roster if they decide to carry three catchers. i haven't kept up wit Osuna's innings since he joined us, but I can assure you his number of good innings equals or exceeds Stassi's number of hits.. I made that as simple as possible since you have a habit of saying simple concepts confuse you. I tried to explain it so that you can understand.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 29, 2018 21:57:16 GMT -6
I never agreed to that. If he can have a few more good outings I'll make one. Osuna's proven to be inconsistent at best. Few closers are infallible; they just have seasons where they appear to be that way. That's why it's an overrated position Giles got it from fans because his stretches of slumping and being ineffective took place over two years. That's probly how long it'll be for Osuna with fans in his cornerOsuna has been as consistent as anyone else Hinch has used as a closer and a LOT more successful than the nut job we gave up to get him. I agree with you that the closer is somewhat over-rated. There are no Mariano Rivera's or Trevor Hoffman's in the game at the present time. All of them will slump at times and none are automatic as the Dodgers found out with Jansen in the WS.
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 29, 2018 22:17:54 GMT -6
In Tyler's final year in college, he hit for a 1.084 OPS, AVG in the .360s, with 16 HRs.
What's crazy is that his MLB numbers now are not much lower than his numbers from Western Carolina.
It's interesting to compare his batting style from his rookie debut year (2016) to what he's doing today. Here's a video somebody did when Tyler first came up to the bigs.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 29, 2018 22:34:53 GMT -6
This guy just keeps on hitting. I think we've found the DH for next year. Thank the lord, man. Enough of the bearded lumberjack.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 29, 2018 22:39:46 GMT -6
I never agreed to that. If he can have a few more good outings I'll make one. I didn't say you agreed to it, but, you should do it, especially after calling him a wife beater when he has never been married. Would marriage really have made the narrative about him that much worse?
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 8:09:21 GMT -6
What does Stassi have to do with the wifebeater? I realize that you keep calling Osuna a wife beater even though you know that it is false......a guy who has never married can't be a wife beater unless he beats another man's wife and that didn't happen. He will not be convicted of anything. I just compared Osuna's number of good innings to Stassi's number of hits. I thought you may be able to grasp that,but, since you still insist on calling Osuna a wife beater even though you know it 's not true, I can see how that comparison is over your head. You were against trading for Osuna and refuse to concede that Luhnow stole him from Toronto by getting him for a head case who was never going to pitch for us again. Only psychos punch themselves in the face and tell the manager to f*** off when removed from a game. We dumped Giles and got a good, young, proven closer who has been one of the best even though he is still very young. He is also under contract for at least two more years. Another point about Stassi.......I seem to remember you saying Maldonado would be left off the playoff roster and Stassi would make it. Maldonado is a lock for a playoff roster spot unless he in injured at the time. McCann will be activated Saturday which means Stassi will be relegated to the bench and will only be on the playoff roster if they decide to carry three catchers. i haven't kept up wit Osuna's innings since he joined us, but I can assure you his number of good innings equals or exceeds Stassi's number of hits.. I made that as simple as possible since you have a habit of saying simple concepts confuse you. I tried to explain it so that you can understand. I didn't read all your comments about the wifebeater, but, as for Stassi, yes Maldonado has certainly been quite good for several games after being brutally horrible at first. At this rate they may carry three catchers like they did last year if McCann comes back okay. Doesn't change the fact that Stassi is the future catcher for this team (as he is still having the far far superior season out of the two). And comparing reliever innings to part-time catcher hits is the weirdest debate point ever? I don't know how to respond to that. Stassi has a longer beard than Osuna's eyelashes? Take that!
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 8:10:49 GMT -6
This guy just keeps on hitting. I think we've found the DH for next year. Thank the lord, man. Enough of the bearded lumberjack. Why the hate for Gattis? He has been a positive addition for us.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 11:08:06 GMT -6
I didn't say you agreed to it, but, you should do it, especially after calling him a wife beater when he has never been married. Would marriage really have made the narrative about him that much worse? Probably not. I won't be concerned until he is convicted of something, which I don't think will happen,
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 11:10:43 GMT -6
I realize that you keep calling Osuna a wife beater even though you know that it is false......a guy who has never married can't be a wife beater unless he beats another man's wife and that didn't happen. He will not be convicted of anything. I just compared Osuna's number of good innings to Stassi's number of hits. I thought you may be able to grasp that,but, since you still insist on calling Osuna a wife beater even though you know it 's not true, I can see how that comparison is over your head. You were against trading for Osuna and refuse to concede that Luhnow stole him from Toronto by getting him for a head case who was never going to pitch for us again. Only psychos punch themselves in the face and tell the manager to f*** off when removed from a game. We dumped Giles and got a good, young, proven closer who has been one of the best even though he is still very young. He is also under contract for at least two more years. Another point about Stassi.......I seem to remember you saying Maldonado would be left off the playoff roster and Stassi would make it. Maldonado is a lock for a playoff roster spot unless he in injured at the time. McCann will be activated Saturday which means Stassi will be relegated to the bench and will only be on the playoff roster if they decide to carry three catchers. i haven't kept up wit Osuna's innings since he joined us, but I can assure you his number of good innings equals or exceeds Stassi's number of hits.. I made that as simple as possible since you have a habit of saying simple concepts confuse you. I tried to explain it so that you can understand. I didn't read all your comments about the wifebeater, but, as for Stassi, yes Maldonado has certainly been quite good for several games after being brutally horrible at first. At this rate they may carry three catchers like they did last year if McCann comes back okay. Doesn't change the fact that Stassi is the future catcher for this team (as he is still having the far far superior season out of the two). And comparing reliever innings to part-time catcher hits is the weirdest debate point ever? I don't know how to respond to that. Stassi has a longer beard than Osuna's eyelashes? Take that! Stassi being the regular catcher will be determined by how Stubbs progresses. If Stassi is on the playoff roster, he will be the #3.
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 11:23:41 GMT -6
I didn't read all your comments about the wifebeater, but, as for Stassi, yes Maldonado has certainly been quite good for several games after being brutally horrible at first. At this rate they may carry three catchers like they did last year if McCann comes back okay. Doesn't change the fact that Stassi is the future catcher for this team (as he is still having the far far superior season out of the two). And comparing reliever innings to part-time catcher hits is the weirdest debate point ever? I don't know how to respond to that. Stassi has a longer beard than Osuna's eyelashes? Take that! Stassi being the regular catcher will be determined by how Stubbs progresses. If Stassi is on the playoff roster, he will be the #3. A minor leaguer catcher with no MLB experience is not going to surpass Stassi in his first year unless Stassi gets hurt. If Stubbs is far superior to Stassi by the all-star break, then yeah maybe he'll get more playing time. Too soon to tell. The playoff roster will depend on how their performing at the end of the year and how the rest of the team is doing. I'm sure they'll also follow matchups and how the pitchers feel with certain catchers.
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 11:32:52 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 11:41:01 GMT -6
White has gotten exactly 1/3rd the amount of plate appearances as Gattis this year. If you projected White's numbers to the same, here is how they would compare (just a projection, don't get butthurt non-stat people):
Gattis:
24 HR 71 RBI 47 Runs 85 Hits 17 Doubles 0 Triples 1 SB .232/.289/.475 (109 OPS+) .8 WAR
White:
30 HR 75 RBI 51 Runs 111 Hits 15 Doubles 6 Triples 0 SB .311/.393/.639 (182 OPS+) 4.2 WAR
The big thing is the difference in OBP and overall Hits. And keep in mind, Gattis has played in 20 less games than guys like Bregman too.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 19:53:25 GMT -6
Thank the lord, man. Enough of the bearded lumberjack. Why the hate for Gattis? He has been a positive addition for us. His praise is disproportionate to his output.
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 20:14:03 GMT -6
Why the hate for Gattis? He has been a positive addition for us. His praise is disproportionate to his output. I feel like he doesn't get any praise....
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 20:15:41 GMT -6
His praise is disproportionate to his output. I feel like he doesn't get any praise.... Really?
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 20:15:59 GMT -6
I feel like he doesn't get any praise.... Really? Very little.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 20:18:08 GMT -6
Well, his hot streaks are seldom, but the cold spells are common.
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 30, 2018 21:54:31 GMT -6
White has gotten exactly 1/3rd the amount of plate appearances as Gattis this year. If you projected White's numbers to the same, here is how they would compare (just a projection, don't get butthurt non-stat people): Gattis:24 HR 71 RBI 47 Runs 85 Hits 17 Doubles 0 Triples 1 SB .232/.289/.475 (109 OPS+) .8 WAR White:30 HR 75 RBI 51 Runs 111 Hits 15 Doubles 6 Triples 0 SB .311/.393/.639 (182 OPS+) 4.2 WAR The big thing is the difference in OBP and overall Hits. And keep in mind, Gattis has played in 20 less games than guys like Bregman too. Just think with the way White has been hitting and being consistent Gattis is thinking he'll never get in another game at this point.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 31, 2018 8:14:01 GMT -6
White has gotten exactly 1/3rd the amount of plate appearances as Gattis this year. If you projected White's numbers to the same, here is how they would compare (just a projection, don't get butthurt non-stat people): Gattis:24 HR 71 RBI 47 Runs 85 Hits 17 Doubles 0 Triples 1 SB .232/.289/.475 (109 OPS+) .8 WAR White:30 HR 75 RBI 51 Runs 111 Hits 15 Doubles 6 Triples 0 SB .311/.393/.639 (182 OPS+) 4.2 WAR The big thing is the difference in OBP and overall Hits. And keep in mind, Gattis has played in 20 less games than guys like Bregman too. Just think with the way White has been hitting and being consistent Gattis is thinking he'll never get in another game at this point. With the way Yuli has tanked, Gattis should get DH at bats with White playing first base.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 31, 2018 10:42:26 GMT -6
Just think with the way White has been hitting and being consistent Gattis is thinking he'll never get in another game at this point. With the way Yuli has tanked, Gattis should get DH at bats with White playing first base. The scary thing is Yuli is the better hitter of the two...I trust him way more than Gattis...Gattis is extremely streaky.....when he is on, man is it great, because crushes the ball...but next thing you know it is a solid month or two of bunny hop strikeouts (I forget who here coined that phrase).
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 31, 2018 11:15:45 GMT -6
The bunny hop strikeout is an accurate description. Yuli is much better than he has shown since the break. Having him, Correa, and Springer all under-achieving is a big problem.
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