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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 8:19:44 GMT -6
Keep that momentum going! 7-1 since the return of Altuve (although he is only 1-9 with 6 Ks in his last two games).
Unfortunately, Reddick, Gurriel, and Correa continue to struggle (some moments of success but we need more consistency). I'm wondering if Correa wouldn't benefit from a day off.
On the plus side: JV is due for a dominant game. White is still on fire. And Springer is suddenly getting on base well. (Even his GIDP yesterday was just bad placement. He hit it well.)
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 8:56:20 GMT -6
You calm down and post new threads when lineups are out!
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 9:01:26 GMT -6
You calm down and post new threads when lineups are out! You're not the boss of me! |
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 30, 2018 10:51:43 GMT -6
Pujols is out for the rest of the season with knee surgery.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 11:13:25 GMT -6
You calm down and post new threads when lineups are out! He usually posts when new WAR and OPS stats become available since they do his thinking for him.  |
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 11:20:14 GMT -6
You calm down and post new threads when lineups are out! He usually posts when new WAR and OPS stats become available since they do his thinking for him. Coming from the guy that can't figure out a stat more complicated than batting average.... |
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Post by marshall on Aug 30, 2018 12:35:46 GMT -6
Yesterdays lineup with today's pitcher: Updated through last night's game.
First Last Pos OPS+/ERA+
George Springer CF 114
Alex Bregman 3B 157
Jose Altuve 2B 139
Carlos Correa SS 112
Marwin Gonzales LF 107
Tyler White DH 182
Yuli Gurriel 1B 100
Josh Reddick RF 99
Martin Maldonado C 102
Justin Verlander SP 147
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 12:41:18 GMT -6
Pujols is out for the rest of the season with knee surgery. Is that going to affect his speed??? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 12:52:19 GMT -6
He usually posts when new WAR and OPS stats become available since they do his thinking for him. Coming from the guy that can't figure out a stat more complicated than batting average.... Oh, and how do you know I can't figure them out? I can figure them out, but, I'm not stupid enough to solely rely on WARk OPS, etcl I go by what I SEE with my own eyes. I observe when a player hits, the quality of pitching he hits, and what he does with RISP. I also see if he advances runners into scoring position even though he makes an out. Since you seem to ignore batting average and run production, I put very little stock in your opinion although I respect it. You were right to suggest we stick with White even though what he was doing at the time made you look wrong. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 30, 2018 12:52:51 GMT -6
If Pujols had any integrity, he'd admit hes unable to perform, and would retire instead of robbing the team of tens of millions of dollars a year.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 12:55:31 GMT -6
If Pujols had any integrity, he'd admit hes unable to perform, and would retire instead of robbing the team of tens of millions of dollars a year. Not many guys would toss away that much money |
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Post by paastrosfan on Aug 30, 2018 13:04:13 GMT -6
It would be nice to put the wood to Mr. Heaney again.
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 13:08:10 GMT -6
Coming from the guy that can't figure out a stat more complicated than batting average.... Oh, and how do you know I can't figure them out? I can figure them out, but, I'm not stupid enough to solely rely on WARk OPS, etcl I go by what I SEE with my own eyes. I observe when a player hits, the quality of pitching he hits, and what he does with RISP. I also see if he advances runners into scoring position even though he makes an out. Since you seem to ignore batting average and run production, I put very little stock in your opinion although I respect it. You were right to suggest we stick with White even though what he was doing at the time made you look wrong. You're assuming stats do the thinking for me so I'm assuming you don't know shit about stats past AVG. Assumptions are the best. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 13:08:46 GMT -6
If Pujols had any integrity, he'd admit hes unable to perform, and would retire instead of robbing the team of tens of millions of dollars a year. I think he probably feels he can still contribute. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 13:09:09 GMT -6
If Pujols had any integrity, he'd admit hes unable to perform, and would retire instead of robbing the team of tens of millions of dollars a year. Not when he’s chasing Bonds! #followyourdreams |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 30, 2018 13:10:48 GMT -6
If Pujols had any integrity, he'd admit hes unable to perform, and would retire instead of robbing the team of tens of millions of dollars a year. I think he probably feels he can still contribute. To the team payroll. |
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Post by marshall on Aug 30, 2018 14:39:15 GMT -6
First Last Pos OPS+/ERA+
George Springer 1B 114
Alex Bregman 3B 157
Jose Altuve 2B 139
Carlos Correa SS 112
Tyler White DH 182
Marwin Gonzales LF 107
Yuli Gurriel 1B 100
Josh Reddick RF 99
Martin Maldonado C 102
Justin Verlander SP 147
The only change is White and Gonzales swapping places in the lineup. It's about time.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 30, 2018 14:49:08 GMT -6
Sheese. Never thought I'd see Maldonado with a higher OPS+ than Gurriel
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 14:49:58 GMT -6
Sheese. Never thought I'd see Maldonado with a higher OPS+ than Gurriel That's just his time in Houston. For the year he's sitting at 75... |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 30, 2018 15:01:43 GMT -6
Sheese. Never thought I'd see Maldonado with a higher OPS+ than Gurriel That's just his time in Houston. For the year he's sitting at 75... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 15:35:19 GMT -6
Oh, and how do you know I can't figure them out? I can figure them out, but, I'm not stupid enough to solely rely on WARk OPS, etcl I go by what I SEE with my own eyes. I observe when a player hits, the quality of pitching he hits, and what he does with RISP. I also see if he advances runners into scoring position even though he makes an out. Since you seem to ignore batting average and run production, I put very little stock in your opinion although I respect it. You were right to suggest we stick with White even though what he was doing at the time made you look wrong. You're assuming stats do the thinking for me so I'm assuming you don't know shit about stats past AVG. Assumptions are the best. Your "assumptions" are of little concern to me. I have been around the game long enough to know that stats don't reveal the total value of a player or his lack of value. I have never said that WAR, OPS, or any other stat is totally useless. I just don't go totally by them. I don't go solely by batting average, RBI, etc. I have seen lots of players who regularly hit around .220 who were very valuable to their teams. Mark Belanger played SS for the Orioles back in their glory days and seldom hit over .230, but, Earl Weaver kept him in the lineup. Most managers today would check his stats and decide he didn't have much value. Since you constantly refer to WAR, OPS, WRc+. etc. i assume you don't know shit about the game other than what those stats tell you. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 15:39:36 GMT -6
Sheese. Never thought I'd see Maldonado with a higher OPS+ than Gurriel That's just his time in Houston. For the year he's sitting at 75... Why should we give a damn what Maldonado did in LA?? Scioscia wore him out by catching him every day. When he came here, he had caught more innings than any catcher in the AL. He was tired when he got here and he swung the bat like itl Once he got some rest, he has begun to hit much better. He has been a valuable pickup for us and even with MCann, Maldonado is the best catcher on our roster......maybe not the best hitter, but, the best catcher. His OPS with the Angels means nothing in evaluating his value to the Astros. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 15:44:51 GMT -6
You're assuming stats do the thinking for me so I'm assuming you don't know shit about stats past AVG. Assumptions are the best. Your "assumptions" are of little concern to me. I have been around the game long enough to know that stats don't reveal the total value of a player or his lack of value. I have never said that WAR, OPS, or any other stat is totally useless. I just don't go totally by them. I don't go solely by batting average, RBI, etc. I have seen lots of players who regularly hit around .220 who were very valuable to their teams. Mark Belanger played SS for the Orioles back in their glory days and seldom hit over .230, but, Earl Weaver kept him in the lineup. Most managers today would check his stats and decide he didn't have much value. Since you constantly refer to WAR, OPS, WRc+. etc. i assume you don't know shit about the game other than what those stats tell you. "Since you constantly refer to WAR, OPS, WRc+. etc. i assume you don't know shit about the game other than what those stats tell you." Okay, bro. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 15:47:39 GMT -6
That's just his time in Houston. For the year he's sitting at 75... Why should we give a damn what Maldonado did in LA?? Scioscia wore him out by catching him every day. When he came here, he had caught more innings than any catcher in the AL. He was tired when he got here and he swung the bat like itl Once he got some rest, he has begun to hit much better. He has been a valuable pickup for us and even with MCann, Maldonado is the best catcher on our roster......maybe not the best hitter, but, the best catcher. His OPS with the Angels means nothing in evaluating his value to the Astros. Generally a larger sample size tells a better story. Bear was surprised by Maldonado's production because historically he is utterly pathetic at the plate. So seeing a pathetic hitter with a better OPS+ than our 1B would be very surprising. Maldonado's time with us has certainly been much better than his career has shown, which...thank God because he was awful offensively before coming here. Hopefully he continues to do well for our sake. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 30, 2018 15:51:50 GMT -6
However one chooses to rationalize Maldy, he underpins how awful Gurriel has been since the All-Star Break by comparison more than anything
Since the break Yuli's hitting
.205 .250 .307
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 30, 2018 15:54:34 GMT -6
If Yuli's name was Jake he would've been run outta Chinatown by now
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Post by Saint on Aug 30, 2018 15:56:05 GMT -6
Yeah, we're going to regret that contract next year if there isn't some improvement soon... The fact that he can play some other positions if needed helps, but without quite a bit of improvement, he shouldn't be an every day player next year.
He could be the new infield Marwin, I guess...
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 16:23:17 GMT -6
However one chooses to rationalize Maldy, he underpins how awful Gurriel has been since the All-Star Break by comparison more than anything
Since the break Yuli's hitting
.205 .250 .307
I have to agree with you on this. I have been a big fan of Yuli's but you are right about him since the break. Right now, White or Marwin should play first base and Gurriel be benched,. Unless we deal for an outfielder before the waiver deadline, I"d put Kemp in LF, White as DH, and Marwin at 1B |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 16:25:43 GMT -6
Yeah, we're going to regret that contract next year if there isn't some improvement soon... The fact that he can play some other positions if needed helps, but without quite a bit of improvement, he shouldn't be an every day player next year. He could be the new infield Marwin, I guess... When Jake is activated...and I expect him and McCann to be on Saturday......Jake will get time in CF. Our best defensive OF is Reddick-Marisnick-Springer from left to right. Let White DH with Marwin at 1b |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 30, 2018 16:32:47 GMT -6
Just heard on mlb network that Ohtani is the Angels starting pitcher on Sunday.
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