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Post by olpapa on Sept 11, 2018 14:18:05 GMT -6
I know we're in the middle of a playoff run, but I think Altuve and/or Springer and/or Correa need a day off. Even though Springer and Altuve have had a little more success recently, they both look to be in pain a good deal. It won't matter if we win the division if those guys can't be near their A game in the postseason. Detroit is the team for them to have a day off (or two) against. And Correa has apparently reported that his back is not perfect and that he's trying to play through it and make adjustments that haven't been successful (obviously). I agree with you...especially when it comes to Correa. He has shown no signs of getting any better since he returned from the DL; in fact, he may be getting worse. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 14:26:30 GMT -6
Most of us complain when things are going badly but this forum is a lot nicer then other Astro forums I’ve read. I don't see anything wrong with some complaining/venting. But when you log-in and the score is 0-0 in the 2nd inning and people are saying how bad we are despite being on pace for 100 wins, it's a little weird. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 11, 2018 14:29:59 GMT -6
Jake’s slugging percentage:
Last 30 games - .545
Last 15 games - .393
Correa’s slugging percentage:
Last 30 games - .222
Last 15 games - .182
.... yet he is still in the lineup every day and, worse yet, batting 5th.
Nobody would want Jake batting in the middle of the lineup at 4 or 5. Yet his numbers over the last 30 and 15 games are twice a good as the guy AJ has kept plugging in there.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 11, 2018 14:30:41 GMT -6
Altuve Bregman Gurriel Marwin Correa Reddick White McCann Kemp Well this lineup just doesn't make any sense to me but whatever. At least Springer is getting a day off, I guess. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 11, 2018 14:37:54 GMT -6
Well here it is. Hot off the clipboard: Framber Valdez L 3-1 1.37 ERA 2B Jose Altuve R 3B Alex Bregman R 1B Yuli Gurriel R LF M. Gonzalez B SS C. Correa R RF Josh Reddick L DH Tyler White R C Brian McCann L CF Tony Kemp L I don’t understand why he won’t sit Correa and give him a chance to heal before the playoffs. Yeah, Correa needs a few days off. We certainly wouldn't be any worse with a Bregman/Gurriel or Bregman/Davis tandem on the left side. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 14:42:56 GMT -6
I’m wondering why they bothered to call Davis up. He hasn’t batted a single time in September. If they just wanted another body on the bench, but had no intention of playing him, why not call up Fisher? At least he could benefit the team as a pinch runner occasionally. I also wondered why Davis was used as a pinch runner in Boston. I didn't realize he had any speed |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 14:44:17 GMT -6
I expect a better game today because they should be rested......they looked tired yesterday after getting into Detroit at 4 in the morning. I would sue this lineup Springer RF Altuve 2B Bregman 3B White DH Correa SS Gonzalez 1B McCann C Marisnick CF we need our best CF in this park Kemp LF Why you suing folk, bro :That was supposed to say USE  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 14:46:12 GMT -6
Days off while Oakland is hot on our heels makes no sense. We can't afford to lose games to a weak team like the Tigers.
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Post by olpapa on Sept 11, 2018 14:46:38 GMT -6
Well here it is. Hot off the clipboard: Framber Valdez L 3-1 1.37 ERA 2B Jose Altuve R 3B Alex Bregman R 1B Yuli Gurriel R LF M. Gonzalez B SS C. Correa R RF Josh Reddick L DH Tyler White R C Brian McCann L CF Tony Kemp L I don’t understand why he won’t sit Correa and give him a chance to heal before the playoffs. Yeah, Correa needs a few days off. We certainly wouldn't be any worse with a Bregman/Gurriel or Bregman/Davis tandem on the left side. If Correa’s back is bad enough that he is hesitant to swing at the first two pitches he sees coming right down the middle every at-bat, he definitely needs to sit until he is well enough to play and contribute on offense. Of course, it would seem that extending himself to reach across the plate and swing at those pitches outside and in the dirt would be more aggravating to his back. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2018 14:52:24 GMT -6
Brad Peacock was sent back to Houston for his hand, foot, and mouth disease thing.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2018 14:53:41 GMT -6
Altuve Bregman Gurriel Marwin Correa Reddick White McCann Kemp Well this lineup just doesn't make any sense to me but whatever. At least Springer is getting a day off, I guess. Altuve is not 100%. His power is lacking, and he’s been bunting more to compensate. I don’t mind him being moved to a lesser RBI spot in the order for the time being. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:15:28 GMT -6
Yeah, Correa needs a few days off. We certainly wouldn't be any worse with a Bregman/Gurriel or Bregman/Davis tandem on the left side. For sure, but we need his bat for the postseason too. If we sacrifice some on defense to get him some rest now (and improve a little on offense compared to his current level of performance) I think it benefits us in the long run. Again, if we can't beat Detroit minus one or two of our stars, we have bigger issues. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:16:33 GMT -6
Yeah, Correa needs a few days off. We certainly wouldn't be any worse with a Bregman/Gurriel or Bregman/Davis tandem on the left side. If Correa’s back is bad enough that he is hesitant to swing at the first two pitches he sees coming right down the middle every at-bat, he definitely needs to sit until he is well enough to play and contribute on offense. Of course, it would seem that extending himself to reach across the plate and swing at those pitches outside and in the dirt would be more aggravating to his back. Something has to be done to get him ready for the playoffs. He is basically useless at the plate as he is now |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:17:49 GMT -6
Days off while Oakland is hot on our heels makes no sense. We can't afford to lose games to a weak team like the Tigers. If your top players can't contribute in the postseason, it won't matter if we get there. If we can't beat Detroit minus one or two of our stars, we have a problem. Players coming off injuries have to get rest down the stretch or you run the risk of hurting them worse for when you need them. Rest them now against some bad teams or run the risk of not having your top players against the top teams in the playoffs. Which do you prefer? |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:19:32 GMT -6
Altuve Bregman Gurriel Marwin Correa Reddick White McCann Kemp Well this lineup just doesn't make any sense to me but whatever. At least Springer is getting a day off, I guess. Altuve is not 100%. His power is lacking, and he’s been bunting more to compensate. I don’t mind him being moved to a lesser RBI spot in the order for the time being. He should always be leadoff or 2nd anyways. Moving White all the way down to 7th with 3-4 average (at best right now) players between him and our top-2 hitters is my bigger concern. I know Hinch has to get people some rest, and I assume he is playing some match-ups or something, but the name of the game for our offense right now needs to be as many players on base in front of Bregman and White. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:20:50 GMT -6
Yeah, Correa needs a few days off. We certainly wouldn't be any worse with a Bregman/Gurriel or Bregman/Davis tandem on the left side. If Correa’s back is bad enough that he is hesitant to swing at the first two pitches he sees coming right down the middle every at-bat, he definitely needs to sit until he is well enough to play and contribute on offense. Of course, it would seem that extending himself to reach across the plate and swing at those pitches outside and in the dirt would be more aggravating to his back. Yeah, I'm not sure what pitch selection has to do with whatever adjustments he is trying to make, but some time off to rest and heal a little before the playoffs wouldn't hurt. (Even if his adjustments just need to be mental...) |
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Post by m240 on Sept 11, 2018 15:25:50 GMT -6
Correa needs to sit down. A lineup with Gonzales at third, Bregman at SS, Altuve at second, and Gurriel at 1st and White DHing is pretty strong. Now that means Kemp in lf, Springer in CF and Reddick in rf.
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Post by m240 on Sept 11, 2018 15:27:34 GMT -6
A new thought occurred to me maybe they are trying to see if both Altuve and Correa can work through it and if not then when Tucker and Tanielu are available they will bring them up and sit Altuve and Correa for a few days to just chill.
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:30:09 GMT -6
I'd be amazed if the big-3 didn't get the rest of the regular season off as soon as (if) we clinch the division. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:34:05 GMT -6
Days off while Oakland is hot on our heels makes no sense. We can't afford to lose games to a weak team like the Tigers. If your top players can't contribute in the postseason, it won't matter if we get there. If we can't beat Detroit minus one or two of our stars, we have a problem. Players coming off injuries have to get rest down the stretch or you run the risk of hurting them worse for when you need them. Rest them now against some bad teams or run the risk of not having your top players against the top teams in the playoffs. Which do you prefer? Players who have been on the DL have been getting rest. What they need is work to get back to where they need to be. You don't prepare for the playoffs and get your timing back by sitting on your ass. If they are not injured, they should be in the lineup |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:34:50 GMT -6
I'd be amazed if the big-3 didn't get the rest of the regular season off as soon as (if) we clinch the division. Hopefully sooner rather than later. Now, if we clinch the divison, I agree. Until then, they need to play unless injured. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:36:17 GMT -6
A new thought occurred to me maybe they are trying to see if both Altuve and Correa can work through it and if not then when Tucker and Tanielu are available they will bring them up and sit Altuve and Correa for a few days to just chill. If there are players in Fresno that can help us now....bring them up. The minor league playoffs are not that important. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:43:34 GMT -6
If your top players can't contribute in the postseason, it won't matter if we get there. If we can't beat Detroit minus one or two of our stars, we have a problem. Players coming off injuries have to get rest down the stretch or you run the risk of hurting them worse for when you need them. Rest them now against some bad teams or run the risk of not having your top players against the top teams in the playoffs. Which do you prefer? Players who have been on the DL have been getting rest. What they need is work to get back to where they need to be. You don't prepare for the playoffs and get your timing back by sitting on your ass. If they are not injured, they should be in the lineup But that's not how injuries work. They don't get better without some rest. They're okay enough to play, but not to play at a high level. Rest them now to get them to a higher level for when we're playing higher level teams, in my opinion. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:46:17 GMT -6
Players who have been on the DL have been getting rest. What they need is work to get back to where they need to be. You don't prepare for the playoffs and get your timing back by sitting on your ass. If they are not injured, they should be in the lineup But that's not how injuries work. They don't get better without some rest. They're okay enough to play, but not to play at a high level. Rest them now to get them to a higher level for when we're playing higher level teams, in my opinion. As I said, they got rest while on the Dl. Unless they were healthy and ready to play, they should not be in the lineup. Supposedly, they are healthy so they need to play. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2018 15:47:30 GMT -6
Oakland takes a big hit.......Sean Manaea is having arthroscopic surgery on his shoulder should be out for at least a year,
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:48:30 GMT -6
But that's not how injuries work. They don't get better without some rest. They're okay enough to play, but not to play at a high level. Rest them now to get them to a higher level for when we're playing higher level teams, in my opinion. As I said, they got rest while on the Dl. Unless they were healthy and ready to play, they should not be in the lineup. Supposedly, they are healthy so they need to play. But you know players play when not completely healthy. None of them had a procedure done to fix anything. They just got rest and tried not to strain anything further while they were on the DL. They're bodies still need periodic rest (even when supposedly healthy). |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2018 15:52:48 GMT -6
Oakland takes a big hit.......Sean Manaea is having arthroscopic surgery on his shoulder should be out for at least a year, Ouch. All of next year too. Good for us... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2018 15:57:28 GMT -6
Yeah, Correa needs a few days off. We certainly wouldn't be any worse with a Bregman/Gurriel or Bregman/Davis tandem on the left side. I wish Adam Everett would’ve been like Carlos Correa on offense. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2018 16:00:44 GMT -6
I'd be amazed if the big-3 didn't get the rest of the regular season off as soon as (if) we clinch the division. Hopefully sooner rather than later. I think the Astros own the head to head tiebreaker against Oakland despite losing the last two of three series against them. In the event of a tied record at the end of the season, I believe Oakland loses the division to Houston and gets the wild card spot (if both teams’ records are good enough). If there’s only one spot for both teams, there would have to be a 163rd game. |
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 11, 2018 16:00:48 GMT -6
It'd be nice if Hinch didn't manage so much like Garner, but they're buddies
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