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Post by marshall on Sept 27, 2018 5:30:06 GMT -6
I hope we don't take these games too lightly. We need to keep the edge. Many times teams with too much of a lead learn to get complacent as the playoffs start. Sort of like Cleveland last season.
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Post by astrosdoug on Sept 27, 2018 5:41:43 GMT -6
I hope we don't take these games too lightly. We need to keep the edge. Many times teams with too much of a lead learn to get complacent as the playoffs start. Sort of like Cleveland last season. That's true... sweeping a AAA team like Baltimore should simply be a point of team pride. The pitching staff yesterday didn't take the day off by any means. The ABs could have been better but I'm not sure what that was due to.... hangovers from the previous day's party, over-aggressiveness in trying to hit a HR instead of just get on base, or just bad BABIP luck. The team lost several very winnable games early in teh season. Now is the time to compensate for that by finishing the season strong. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 27, 2018 6:27:02 GMT -6
I hope we don't take these games too lightly. We need to keep the edge. Many times teams with too much of a lead learn to get complacent as the playoffs start. Sort of like Cleveland last season. I wonder if the Indians players may have burned themselves out emotionally and physically late last regular season in their quest to break the all-time record for most consecutive games won. When you watched their games during that streak you could tell that it meant a lot to their players to keep that winning streak going and break the record. I wonder if maybe they were so focused on breaking the record that they lost sight of what the real prize was and once they broke the record and finally lost a game, they were spent, had a letdown and lost their edge going into the playoffs. |
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Post by m240 on Sept 27, 2018 8:45:56 GMT -6
As a team we have the ability to set the record for fewest runs allowed in the D-H period. They should set the standard by a good margin
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 27, 2018 9:59:34 GMT -6
I hope we don't take these games too lightly. We need to keep the edge. Many times teams with too much of a lead learn to get complacent as the playoffs start. Sort of like Cleveland last season. I wonder if the Indians players may have burned themselves out emotionally and physically late last regular season in their quest to break the all-time record for most consecutive games won. When you watched their games during that streak you could tell that it meant a lot to their players to keep that winning streak going and break the record. I wonder if maybe they were so focused on breaking the record that they lost sight of what the real prize was and once they broke the record and finally lost a game, they were spent, had a letdown and lost their edge going into the playoffs.
out-of-position, and pitchers were left off who could've made valuable long-relief appearances. I think that had some to do with the result |
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 10:14:29 GMT -6
They shouldn't take the games completely off, but our key players need rest. I'd still like to see Altuve and Springer rest a couple more games, then start the last couple before the days off ahead of the ALDS.
It's like playing your stars in the 4th quarter of a blowout. If one of them gets hurt in garbage time your screwed yourself.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 11:19:51 GMT -6
Deciding on a playoff roster for the ALDS will be a difficult decison, especially regarding the pitching staff. I expect the Oriole series to be used to help decide on the makeup of the bullpen for the ALDS
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 11:59:17 GMT -6
I hope they don't use people beating up the worst team in baseball as any type of measure on who should play in the postseason, outside of health concerns.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 27, 2018 13:02:46 GMT -6
I hope we don't take these games too lightly. We need to keep the edge. Many times teams with too much of a lead learn to get complacent as the playoffs start. Sort of like Cleveland last season. That 22-game streak is the argument against it. They were absolutely spent by the time the postseason came around. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 15:14:33 GMT -6
Today's lineup:
Reddick RF
Altuve 2B
Bregman 3B
Correa SS
White 1B
McCann DH
Maldonado C
Tucker LF
Marisnick CF
Cole P
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 15:24:58 GMT -6
Poor Gattis. A .200 hitter is DHing instead... And not that it really matters, but why not just have Altuve leadoff?
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 15:38:01 GMT -6
Poor Gattis. A .200 hitter is DHing instead... And not that it really matters, but why not just have Altuve leadoff? Probably because we need to avoid an out on the first pitch of the game since he usually swings at the pitch no matter where it is. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 15:51:25 GMT -6
Poor Gattis. A .200 hitter is DHing instead... And not that it really matters, but why not just have Altuve leadoff? Probably because we need to avoid an out on the first pitch of the game since he usually swings at the pitch no matter where it is. Yeah, and he's had horrible success as a hitter with that approach. You're right. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 16:00:36 GMT -6
Probably because we need to avoid an out on the first pitch of the game since he usually swings at the pitch no matter where it is. Yeah, and he's had horrible success as a hitter with that approach. You're right. l didn't say he had horrible success. I have said many times that he is a great player who makes bad decisions at times. He often swings at first pitches that are well out of the strike zone and grounds into DP's that either killls a potential rally or ends an inning. He needs to be more selective when the situation calls for it. He also has brain cramps on the bases and gets picked off. With that said, no way would I trade him. I am surprised that you would respond to someone you think is an "idiot' just because he doesn't put huge importance on WAR, OSP, etc. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 16:10:45 GMT -6
Yeah, and he's had horrible success as a hitter with that approach. You're right. l didn't say he had horrible success. I have said many times that he is a great player who makes bad decisions at times. He often swings at first pitches that are well out of the strike zone and grounds into DP's that either killls a potential rally or ends an inning. He needs to be more selective when the situation calls for it. He also has brain cramps on the bases and gets picked off. With that said, no way would I trade him. I am surprised that you would respond to someone you think is an "idiot' just because he doesn't put huge importance on WAR, OSP, etc. I don't care about their approach if it's getting them a hit more than 30% of the time and on base at least 38% of the time. And GIDPs don't matter when you're leading off.
WAR and "OSP" have nothing to do with anything relevant to this discussion. You seem more concerned with them than I do since you bring them up in every post that I comment on. Move on.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 16:18:01 GMT -6
l didn't say he had horrible success. I have said many times that he is a great player who makes bad decisions at times. He often swings at first pitches that are well out of the strike zone and grounds into DP's that either killls a potential rally or ends an inning. He needs to be more selective when the situation calls for it. He also has brain cramps on the bases and gets picked off. With that said, no way would I trade him. I am surprised that you would respond to someone you think is an "idiot' just because he doesn't put huge importance on WAR, OSP, etc. I don't care about their approach if it's getting them a hit more than 30% of the time and on base at least 38% of the time. And GIDPs don't matter when you're leading off.
WAR and "OSP" have nothing to do with anything relevant to this discussion. You seem more concerned with them than I do since you bring them up in every post that I comment on. Move on.
Leading off is the only at bat of the the game that a guy is not subject to hitting into a DP. I bring them up because we have a huge lead in hitting into DP's more than any team in the league. When the previous hitter has walked on four pitches or your pitcher has just had a long inning, you are doing your team and your pitcher a disservice by swinging at the first pitch. Common sense needs to play a role. I realize that stat geeks aren't known for possessing common sense but it plays a role. |
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Post by bannedfan on Sept 27, 2018 16:38:42 GMT -6
Game cancelled tonight.
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 16:54:30 GMT -6
I don't care about their approach if it's getting them a hit more than 30% of the time and on base at least 38% of the time. And GIDPs don't matter when you're leading off.
WAR and "OSP" have nothing to do with anything relevant to this discussion. You seem more concerned with them than I do since you bring them up in every post that I comment on. Move on.
Leading off is the only at bat of the the game that a guy is not subject to hitting into a DP. I bring them up because we have a huge lead in hitting into DP's more than any team in the league. When the previous hitter has walked on four pitches or your pitcher has just had a long inning, you are doing your team and your pitcher a disservice by swinging at the first pitch. Common sense needs to play a role. I realize that stat geeks aren't known for possessing common sense but it plays a role. So if you're worried about GIDPs, wouldn't you want to limit the number of ABs he would get by giving him one less AB with a chance to do that? Because during the game it doesn't matter where you bat since there could be people in front of you at any point... But *I'm* the one too dumb to realize that......... 🙄 |
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Post by marshall on Sept 27, 2018 17:28:33 GMT -6
POSTPONED due to inclement weather. Will be a part of a Saturday Double Header.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 18:21:26 GMT -6
Leading off is the only at bat of the the game that a guy is not subject to hitting into a DP. I bring them up because we have a huge lead in hitting into DP's more than any team in the league. When the previous hitter has walked on four pitches or your pitcher has just had a long inning, you are doing your team and your pitcher a disservice by swinging at the first pitch. Common sense needs to play a role. I realize that stat geeks aren't known for possessing common sense but it plays a role. So if you're worried about GIDPs, wouldn't you want to limit the number of ABs he would get by giving him one less AB with a chance to do that? Because during the game it doesn't matter where you bat since there could be people in front of you at any point... But *I'm* the one too dumb to realize that......... 🙄 At last, you admit it.  Now, let me clear it up for you.......no matter WHERE you are in the order, you need to have plate discipline. Swinging at the first pitch after the guy before you walked on 4 straight pitches is DUMB. Going to the plate with your mind made up to swing at the first pitch no matter where it is is DUMB.......and, Altuve admits to doing that at times. He is a great player,but, as he has shown, he is not the brightest pea in the pod. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 27, 2018 18:34:08 GMT -6
So if you're worried about GIDPs, wouldn't you want to limit the number of ABs he would get by giving him one less AB with a chance to do that? Because during the game it doesn't matter where you bat since there could be people in front of you at any point... But *I'm* the one too dumb to realize that......... 🙄 At last, you admit it.  Now, let me clear it up for you.......no matter WHERE you are in the order, you need to have plate discipline. Swinging at the first pitch after the guy before you walked on 4 straight pitches is DUMB. Going to the plate with your mind made up to swing at the first pitch no matter where it is is DUMB.......and, Altuve admits to doing that at times. He is a great player,but, as he has shown, he is not the brightest pea in the pod. Edit: not worth it |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 27, 2018 21:15:25 GMT -6
At last, you admit it. Now, let me clear it up for you.......no matter WHERE you are in the order, you need to have plate discipline. Swinging at the first pitch after the guy before you walked on 4 straight pitches is DUMB. Going to the plate with your mind made up to swing at the first pitch no matter where it is is DUMB.......and, Altuve admits to doing that at times. He is a great player,but, as he has shown, he is not the brightest pea in the pod. Edit: not worth it thanks for sparing me more of your BS about why GIDP's are not a bad thing. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 28, 2018 4:20:14 GMT -6
I see we are still being nasty to each other instead of Proving Your point.
By the Way, it is Pouring Here on Long Island just a few miles up the coast from Baltimore.
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Post by marshall on Sept 28, 2018 5:53:06 GMT -6
I see we are still being nasty to each other instead of Proving Your point. By the Way, it is Pouring Here on Long Island just a few miles up the coast from Baltimore. It might as well be a Congressional Hearing for all the venom being injected.
BTW, I do not expect any let up after Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court The Left has shown itself to be willing to do ANYTHING to protect it's sacrifice of children to the god of self interest.
This means that if character assassination will not work, they will seek actual assassination.
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Post by astrosdoug on Sept 28, 2018 6:45:40 GMT -6
I see we are still being nasty to each other instead of Proving Your point. By the Way, it is Pouring Here on Long Island just a few miles up the coast from Baltimore. It might as well be a Congressional Hearing for all the venom being injected.
BTW, I do not expect any let up after Kavanaugh is on the Supreme Court The Left has shown itself to be willing to do ANYTHING to protect it's sacrifice of children to the god of self interest.
This means that if character assassination will not work, they will seek actual assassination.
Last night it was being tossed around that very soon (probably with Kav's approval to the SC) that all the Supreme Court justices are going to get 24-hour security from the Secret Service, which they didn't have before. It was no coincidence that they grilled Kavanaugh on the conditions by which a U.S. citizen could be tried as an enemy combatant. A lot of swamp critters who thought they had the civilian courts in their pocket are freaked out about getting involved in military tribunals. The legality of the tribunals will be challenged in the SC so naturally the swamp critters will try to knock off the conservative justices who approve of the legality of the military tribunals. As for assassinating the president, I can only guess how many times they've tried already. They will continue trying no doubt. But even if they were to succeed, they'd have to take on the entire Marine Corps so it's really pointless for them. How this relates in some way to our Refugees forum is that one of the executive orders the president has had drafted this week is on forcing the social media giants to tolerate conservative and patriotic speech, which as we all know they haven't been doing. However the legality of the order would be challenged in the Supreme Court, so Kavanaugh getting through is essential to the executive order holding up. While the order probably only applies directly to Facebook, Google, Twitter, Youtube and one or two others, I suspect Proboards policy will change once the giants of the industry change. Last I checked, Ruth Bader Ginsberg (God bless her) was looking pretty sickly. Yet another conservative justice may make it to the SC before too long. Ginsberg was in Hanoi not too long ago. Wonder what that was all about. I guess we should have asked John McStain while he was still around. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 28, 2018 7:37:53 GMT -6
thanks for sparing me more of your BS about why GIDP's are not a bad thing. Where did I say that GIDPs aren't a bad thing? Please quote where I said that or even hinted at it. If you're not full of shit, quote where I said that. Please please quote where I said that. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 28, 2018 9:09:59 GMT -6
thanks for sparing me more of your BS about why GIDP's are not a bad thing. Where did I say that GIDPs aren't a bad thing? Please quote where I said that or even hinted at it. If you're not full of shit, quote where I said that. Please please quote where I said that. You're going to lose this argument by attrition. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 28, 2018 9:21:41 GMT -6
Where did I say that GIDPs aren't a bad thing? Please quote where I said that or even hinted at it. If you're not full of shit, quote where I said that. Please please quote where I said that. You're going to lose this argument by attrition. Correct |
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Post by Saint on Sept 28, 2018 9:37:45 GMT -6
Where did I say that GIDPs aren't a bad thing? Please quote where I said that or even hinted at it. If you're not full of shit, quote where I said that. Please please quote where I said that. You're going to lose this argument by attrition. I have no doubt but I still have to make the effort. Y'all might be okay with him being full of shit and saying whatever he wants, but I don't believe in "Corch being Corch". |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 28, 2018 11:26:43 GMT -6
thanks for sparing me more of your BS about why GIDP's are not a bad thing. Where did I say that GIDPs aren't a bad thing? Please quote where I said that or even hinted at it. If you're not full of shit, quote where I said that. Please please quote where I said that. You seem to have no problem with Altuve hitting into them no matter the count or the type of pitch because of who he is. I seem to recall you hammering Gurriel for the same thing you defend Altuve for doing. DP's are not a positive no matter who hits into them. Altuve's lack of plate discipline creates most of the DP's he grounds into. |
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Now, let me clear it up for you.......no matter WHERE you are in the order, you need to have plate discipline. Swinging at the first pitch after the guy before you walked on 4 straight pitches is DUMB. Going to the plate with your mind made up to swing at the first pitch no matter where it is is DUMB.......and, Altuve admits to doing that at times. He is a great player,but, as he has shown, he is not the brightest pea in the pod.
