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Post by Saint on Nov 2, 2018 15:31:25 GMT -6
They're starting to put out their projections for players in 2019. I've only see pitchers so far:
Verlander: 13-8 3.16 ERA 188 IP 1.074 WHIP 216 K
Cole: 12-8 3.58 ERA 181 IP 1.177 WHIP 206 K
Keuchel: 11-9 3.71 ERA 177 IP 1.266 WHIP 147 K
Morton: 13-6 3.59 ERA 158 IP 1.234 WHIP 174 K
Honestly, if we got those numbers from a 36yo Verlander, I'd be pleased. I'd expect and want more from Cole but it's not bad. My experience with these projections is that they tend to lean fairly conservatively.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 2, 2018 16:02:25 GMT -6
I'd like to see Morton put up those numbers in an Astros uniform.
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 16:08:13 GMT -6
Some of our key position players. For what it's worth, I don't remember the projections being very accurate last year due to our injuries and Bregman's sudden spike. In any case:
Altuve:
.317/.384/.490 17 HR 65 RBI 83 Runs 160 Hits 30 Doubles 20 SB (.874 OPS)
Bregman:
.280/.367/.495 23 HR 82 RBI 88 Runs 150 Hits 40 Doubles 11 SB (.863 OPS)
Correa:
.274/.355/.462 17 HR 71 RBI 65 Runs 115 Hits 24 Doubles 5 SB (.817 OPS)
Springer:
.261/.347/.451 23 HR 67 RBI 90 Runs 131 Hits 24 Doubles 6 SB (.798 OPS)
Gurriel:
.276/.314/.427 14 HR 71 RBI 63 Runs 139 Hits 32 Doubles 4 SB (.741 OPS)
Reddick:
.266/.331/.418 14 HR 55 RBI 63 Runs 118 Hits 21 Doubles 7 SB (.748 OPS)
Diaz:
.264/.316/.436 15 HR 51 RBI 56 Runs 110 Hits 25 Doubles 4 SB (.753 OPS)
White:
.248/.321/.445 12 HR 43 RBI 35 Runs 72 Hits 17 Doubles 2 SB (.766 OPS)
Stassi:
.231/.312/.393 10 HR 36 RBI 38 Runs 67 Hits 15 Doubles 2 SB (.705 OPS)
Marisnick:
.227/.291/.408 13 HR 38 RBI 49 Runs 70 Hits 15 Doubles 9 SB (.699 OPS)
Kemp:
.249/.330/.382 7 HR 35 RBI 42 Runs 77 Hits 16 Doubles 8 SB (.711 OPS)
And then the now probable ex-Astros:
Gattis:
.237/.298/.446 22 HR 69 RBI 52 Runs 98 Hits 20 Doubles 2 SB (.744 OPS)
Marwin:
.261/.329/.434 17 HR 68 RBI 60 Runs 123 Hits 27 Doubles 6 SB (.763 OPS)
McCann:
.230/.314/.397 13 HR 42 RBI 38 Runs 70 Hits 10 Doubles 1 SB (.711 OPS)
Maldonado:
.220/.286/.359 12 HR 43 RBI 43 Runs 89 Hits 18 Doubles 1 SB (.645 OPS)
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 30, 2018 18:01:24 GMT -6
Some of our key position players. For what it's worth, I don't remember the projections being very accurate last year due to our injuries and Bregman's sudden spike. In any case: Altuve:.317/.384/.490 17 HR 65 RBI 83 Runs 160 Hits 30 Doubles 20 SB (.874 OPS) Bregman:.280/.367/.495 23 HR 82 RBI 88 Runs 150 Hits 40 Doubles 11 SB (.863 OPS) Correa:.274/.355/.462 17 HR 71 RBI 65 Runs 115 Hits 24 Doubles 5 SB (.817 OPS) Springer:.261/.347/.451 23 HR 67 RBI 90 Runs 131 Hits 24 Doubles 6 SB (.798 OPS) Gurriel:.276/.314/.427 14 HR 71 RBI 63 Runs 139 Hits 32 Doubles 4 SB (.741 OPS) Reddick:.266/.331/.418 14 HR 55 RBI 63 Runs 118 Hits 21 Doubles 7 SB (.748 OPS) Diaz:.264/.316/.436 15 HR 51 RBI 56 Runs 110 Hits 25 Doubles 4 SB (.753 OPS) White:.248/.321/.445 12 HR 43 RBI 35 Runs 72 Hits 17 Doubles 2 SB (.766 OPS) Stassi:.231/.312/.393 10 HR 36 RBI 38 Runs 67 Hits 15 Doubles 2 SB (.705 OPS) Marisnick:.227/.291/.408 13 HR 38 RBI 49 Runs 70 Hits 15 Doubles 9 SB (.699 OPS) Kemp:.249/.330/.382 7 HR 35 RBI 42 Runs 77 Hits 16 Doubles 8 SB (.711 OPS) And then the now probable ex-Astros: Gattis:.237/.298/.446 22 HR 69 RBI 52 Runs 98 Hits 20 Doubles 2 SB (.744 OPS) Marwin:.261/.329/.434 17 HR 68 RBI 60 Runs 123 Hits 27 Doubles 6 SB (.763 OPS) McCann:.230/.314/.397 13 HR 42 RBI 38 Runs 70 Hits 10 Doubles 1 SB (.711 OPS) Maldonado:.220/.286/.359 12 HR 43 RBI 43 Runs 89 Hits 18 Doubles 1 SB (.645 OPS) pretty conservative across the board for the Astros hitters...I would bet the over on most....Altuve should be the lead off hitter, but he won't....Bregman will hit another 30 HRs....Springer maybe as well. looking for Correa to rebound and be at least .285, 27 HR, 90 RBIs, 75 type of runs guy.... Tucker 15 HRs! and 280 Average/340 OBP |
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Post by Saint on Nov 30, 2018 20:00:57 GMT -6
Hope you're right!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 13:27:43 GMT -6
They're starting to put out their projections for players in 2019. I've only see pitchers so far: Verlander: 13-8 3.16 ERA 188 IP 1.074 WHIP 216 K Cole: 12-8 3.58 ERA 181 IP 1.177 WHIP 206 K Keuchel: 11-9 3.71 ERA 177 IP 1.266 WHIP 147 K Morton: 13-6 3.59 ERA 158 IP 1.234 WHIP 174 K Honestly, if we got those numbers from a 36yo Verlander, I'd be pleased. I'd expect and want more from Cole but it's not bad. My experience with these projections is that they tend to lean fairly conservatively. Interesting projection. Not knowing what the missing pieces will be minus Keuchel, lends them to expect we will be well below 100 wins next season. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 13:31:27 GMT -6
Some of our key position players. For what it's worth, I don't remember the projections being very accurate last year due to our injuries and Bregman's sudden spike. In any case: Altuve:.317/.384/.490 17 HR 65 RBI 83 Runs 160 Hits 30 Doubles 20 SB (.874 OPS) pretty conservative across the board for the Astros hitters...I would bet the over on most....Altuve should be the lead off hitter, but he won't....Bregman will hit another 30 HRs....Springer maybe as well. looking for Correa to rebound and be at least .285, 27 HR, 90 RBIs, 75 type of runs guy.... Tucker 15 HRs! and 280 Average/340 OBP 160 hits for Altuve? That's epically past conservative. That says his best days are behind him. Unless another injury? I expect 200. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 2, 2018 18:14:21 GMT -6
I wonder what they project for Goldschmidt and Cruz.
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2018 8:56:47 GMT -6
pretty conservative across the board for the Astros hitters...I would bet the over on most....Altuve should be the lead off hitter, but he won't....Bregman will hit another 30 HRs....Springer maybe as well. looking for Correa to rebound and be at least .285, 27 HR, 90 RBIs, 75 type of runs guy.... Tucker 15 HRs! and 280 Average/340 OBP 160 hits for Altuve? That's epically past conservative. That says his best days are behind him. Unless another injury? I expect 200. I hope so. If he had stayed healthy this year he probably would have reached it again. At the rate he was going, if he had played in 20 of the 25 games he missed he would have led the league again with 193. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2018 8:58:00 GMT -6
I wonder what they project for Goldschmidt and Cruz. 31 HR 87 RBI 70 Runs .839 OPS Goldy: 26 HR 84 RBI 89 Runs 14 SB .884 OPS |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 3, 2018 14:24:08 GMT -6
I wonder what they project for Goldschmidt and Cruz. 31 HR 87 RBI 70 Runs .839 OPS Goldy: 26 HR 84 RBI 89 Runs 14 SB .884 OPS those numbers would look good in our lineup |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2018 17:05:10 GMT -6
Cruz: 31 HR 87 RBI 70 Runs .839 OPS Goldy: 26 HR 84 RBI 89 Runs 14 SB .884 OPS those numbers would look good in our lineup Sing Cruz this year for two years, abd then Goldschmidt next year for 5 years... Goldschmidt for 5 years gives the Astros options when Correa and Springer are up for possible contract extensions...or do theyvtrade or do they offer a QO.... But keep the young prospects because their low salaries will offset the larger ones... Also I hope the Astros can grow a good bullpen from within. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2018 17:07:55 GMT -6
If you sign Goldschmidt for 5-years (probably at least $75 million) and you're already paying Altuve $150 million, where is the money coming from to keep Springer, Bregman, Cole, Verlander?
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2018 17:18:01 GMT -6
If you sign Goldschmidt for 5-years (probably at least $75 million) and you're already paying Altuve $150 million, where is the money coming from to keep Springer, Bregman, Cole, Verlander? By the having the likes of: James, Whitley, JBB, Tucker, Straw, Alvarez, Ferrell...plus Verlander is probably a 2year extension candidate... Ironicalky it gives the Astros flexibility when contracts do come up 2 to 4 years now...who do they keep, trade, or just offer a QO. Goldschmidt will probably get 5 year/100M deal, but I do wish he wouod take your oropased 5 year/75M. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2018 18:47:33 GMT -6
If you sign Goldschmidt for 5-years (probably at least $75 million) and you're already paying Altuve $150 million, where is the money coming from to keep Springer, Bregman, Cole, Verlander? By the having the likes of: James, Whitley, JBB, Tucker, Straw, Alvarez, Ferrell...plus Verlander is probably a 2year extension candidate... Ironicalky it gives the Astros flexibility when contracts do come up 2 to 4 years now...who do they keep, trade, or just offer a QO. Goldschmidt will probably get 5 year/100M deal, but I do wish he wouod take your oropased 5 year/75M. All of those guys will make more and more each year too. How many $75 million+ contracts do you think the Astros will carry? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2018 18:59:00 GMT -6
By the having the likes of: James, Whitley, JBB, Tucker, Straw, Alvarez, Ferrell...plus Verlander is probably a 2year extension candidate... Ironicalky it gives the Astros flexibility when contracts do come up 2 to 4 years now...who do they keep, trade, or just offer a QO. Goldschmidt will probably get 5 year/100M deal, but I do wish he wouod take your oropased 5 year/75M. All of those guys will make more and more each year too. How many $75 million+ contracts do you think the Astros will carry? probably 5-6 totalling about 120M for short stints all together...rest will be mid salary and low salary Tow top pitchers, Altuve, Bregman and then maybe two from: Springer, Correa or Player X. I could see some being traded at various points to get younger/cheaper. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 3, 2018 19:54:42 GMT -6
All of those guys will make more and more each year too. How many $75 million+ contracts do you think the Astros will carry? probably 5-6 totalling about 120M for short stints all together...rest will be mid salary and low salary Tow top pitchers, Altuve, Bregman and then maybe two from: Springer, Correa or Player X. I could see some being traded at various points to get younger/cheaper. I don't think we'll carry that many big contracts. I hope you're right. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2018 19:58:00 GMT -6
probably 5-6 totalling about 120M for short stints all together...rest will be mid salary and low salary Tow top pitchers, Altuve, Bregman and then maybe two from: Springer, Correa or Player X. I could see some being traded at various points to get younger/cheaper. I don't think we'll carry that many big contracts. I hope you're right. It is me saying it, so bet on the "No". |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 3, 2018 20:08:48 GMT -6
probably 5-6 totalling about 120M for short stints all together...rest will be mid salary and low salary Tow top pitchers, Altuve, Bregman and then maybe two from: Springer, Correa or Player X. I could see some being traded at various points to get younger/cheaper. I don't think we'll carry that many big contracts. I hope you're right. I think at various points the contracts will align and be that, but it will be short lived, since the team will need to replenish the farm/go cheaper via trade. Keep the formula going on having a solid nucleus of good young players and watch them create the team, like the group of Altuve, Correa, Springer and Bregman That is why I am adamant about keeping Tucker...Hopefully Tucker, Straw, Stubbs,Nova, Beer and Alvarez can be the next wave of talent....I am really hoping Straw comes through, having him, Tucker and Springer in the OF would be a good trio. And if Nova can learn to take a walk, to increase OBP, then having Straw and Nova at the top of the lineup would be fun to watch. On side note- I think Correa will have a great 2019. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 4, 2018 15:19:26 GMT -6
Chirinos: 19 HR 57 RBI 53 Runs .231/.331/.433 (.764 OPS)
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2018 15:56:58 GMT -6
Chirinos: 19 HR 57 RBI 53 Runs .231/.331/.433 (.764 OPS) You don't say |
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Post by Saint on Dec 4, 2018 16:47:19 GMT -6
I'd be pretty pleased with that from a cheap rental.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 4, 2018 18:30:39 GMT -6
I'd be pretty pleased with that from a cheap rental. Me too...now get a DH, and let's hope Correa can rebound and Tucker can come through. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 5, 2018 9:11:15 GMT -6
I'd be pretty pleased with that from a cheap rental. Me too...now get a DH, and let's hope Correa can rebound and Tucker can come through. I hope Tucker can survive the baptism by fire approach. I was a little disappointed in his performance last season. Then again, we all were when Bregman first got the call. I’m rooting for him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 5, 2018 11:15:08 GMT -6
Me too...now get a DH, and let's hope Correa can rebound and Tucker can come through. I hope Tucker can survive the baptism by fire approach. I was a little disappointed in his performance last season. Then again, we all were when Bregman first got the call. I’m rooting for him. A lot is riding on Tucker, him coming through really helps the franchise for years to come....because most of what you see for top Astros top prospect talent, outside of Tucker's, are pitchers. 2020, I hope Alvarez starts to emerge, I am guessing he will get most of his time at 1b. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 7, 2018 16:36:02 GMT -6
Not that it's a big deal (I just found it interesting), but Joe Smith is projected to surpass the 800 Games Pitched milestone this year. This would put him in the top-50 all-time and he's still only 35 years old.
Hopefully he can do it while keeping his ERA closer to 3.00 than 4.00 this year and a FIP around 3.50.....
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:13:46 GMT -6
Not that it's a big deal (I just found it interesting), but Joe Smith is projected to surpass the 800 Games Pitched milestone this year. This would put him in the top-50 all-time and he's still only 35 years old. Hopefully he can do it while keeping his ERA closer to 3.00 than 4.00 this year and a FIP around 3.50..... So much for this! |
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Post by Saint on Dec 20, 2018 11:15:59 GMT -6
Brantley Projections:
14 HR 67 RBI 71 Runs 142 Hits 29 Doubles 11 SB .286/.345/.437 .782 OPS
The counting totals might not be far off depending on how healthy he stays, but I don't know why they would project his rate stats so far below what he has done the last two years.
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 21, 2018 19:10:19 GMT -6
Not that it's a big deal (I just found it interesting), but Joe Smith is projected to surpass the 800 Games Pitched milestone this year. This would put him in the top-50 all-time and he's still only 35 years old. Hopefully he can do it while keeping his ERA closer to 3.00 than 4.00 this year and a FIP around 3.50..... You jinxed him. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 21, 2018 22:26:54 GMT -6
Not that it's a big deal (I just found it interesting), but Joe Smith is projected to surpass the 800 Games Pitched milestone this year. This would put him in the top-50 all-time and he's still only 35 years old. Hopefully he can do it while keeping his ERA closer to 3.00 than 4.00 this year and a FIP around 3.50..... You jinxed him. Apparently. |
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