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Post by Saint on Mar 15, 2019 15:12:18 GMT -6
Name some of your top players.
1. Will Clark: He hit .319 (145 OPS+) his final season in 130 games and then just decided to call it quits after that postseason. I know he had some health issues but they didn't seem to be keeping him from being an excellent player still. Two or three more good years and he's likely a legit HoF candidate.
2. Billy Wagner: 1.43 ERA 7-2 37 Saves and then done. Seemed healthy and was one of the best lefty relievers of all-time. Again, another strong year or two and he's making the Hall.
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Post by abregmanfan on Mar 16, 2019 19:52:56 GMT -6
Name some of your top players. 1. Will Clark: He hit .319 (145 OPS+) his final season in 130 games and then just decided to call it quits after that postseason. I know he had some health issues but they didn't seem to be keeping him from being an excellent player still. Two or three more good years and he's likely a legit HoF candidate. 2. Billy Wagner: 1.43 ERA 7-2 37 Saves and then done. Seemed healthy and was one of the best lefty relievers of all-time. Again, another strong year or two and he's making the Hall. Adrian Beltre probably had a good year or two also.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 16, 2019 20:14:11 GMT -6
Players who retired too late: Craig Biggio.
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Post by abregmanfan on Mar 16, 2019 20:19:35 GMT -6
Players who retired too late: Craig Biggio. Carlos Lee.
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 17, 2019 8:09:34 GMT -6
Players who retired too late: Craig Biggio. Rickey Henderson
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Post by marshall on Mar 17, 2019 10:49:01 GMT -6
Barry Bonds. He went from Hall of Fame to Hall of Shame.
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 17, 2019 11:19:46 GMT -6
Barry Bonds. He went from Hall of Fame to Hall of Shame. Julio Franco...is he still playing?
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Post by talshill on Mar 17, 2019 15:37:54 GMT -6
Name some of your top players. 1. Will Clark: He hit .319 (145 OPS+) his final season in 130 games and then just decided to call it quits after that postseason. I know he had some health issues but they didn't seem to be keeping him from being an excellent player still. Two or three more good years and he's likely a legit HoF candidate. 2. Billy Wagner: 1.43 ERA 7-2 37 Saves and then done. Seemed healthy and was one of the best lefty relievers of all-time. Again, another strong year or two and he's making the Hall. Those guys were both in their mid-late 30's. Even though still effective, they knew when to hang it up. Better to see that than a once-great looking foolish. Koufax was done at 30 after back-to-back CY awards. Life isn't fair.
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Post by Saint on Mar 18, 2019 7:46:52 GMT -6
Name some of your top players. 1. Will Clark: He hit .319 (145 OPS+) his final season in 130 games and then just decided to call it quits after that postseason. I know he had some health issues but they didn't seem to be keeping him from being an excellent player still. Two or three more good years and he's likely a legit HoF candidate. 2. Billy Wagner: 1.43 ERA 7-2 37 Saves and then done. Seemed healthy and was one of the best lefty relievers of all-time. Again, another strong year or two and he's making the Hall. Those guys were both in their mid-late 30's. Even though still effective, they knew when to hang it up. Better to see that than a once-great looking foolish. Koufax was done at 30 after back-to-back CY awards. Life isn't fair. I agree better to retire before you hit rock bottom, but it's interesting when players retire when still at almost peak performance.
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 18, 2019 8:05:26 GMT -6
Those guys were both in their mid-late 30's. Even though still effective, they knew when to hang it up. Better to see that than a once-great looking foolish. Koufax was done at 30 after back-to-back CY awards. Life isn't fair. I agree better to retire before you hit rock bottom, but it's interesting when players retire when still at almost peak performance. People do it all the time, it is called marriage.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 18, 2019 13:24:36 GMT -6
Players who retired too late: Craig Biggio. I was wondering what took you so long.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 18, 2019 13:27:35 GMT -6
Bonds not making it to 3,000 and Fred McGriff finishing so short of 500 homers comes to mind. Also, it’s a shame Henderson and Biggio didn’t get to 300 homers, but they played forever.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 18, 2019 13:42:11 GMT -6
Players who retired too late: Craig Biggio. I was wondering what took you so long. So long? It was the 3rd post on the thread, nearly 3 days ago.
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Post by bearbryant on Mar 18, 2019 14:58:18 GMT -6
Bob Horner had a short career despite hitting above replacement every season he was in the majors. I have no idea the circumstances of his retirement though
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Post by Saint on Mar 18, 2019 15:08:09 GMT -6
I guess if I'm going to point out Wagner, Rivera is up there too. He was 6-2 with 44 Saves and a 2.11 ERA (190 ERA+) his final season.
Mike Mussina is another one.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 18, 2019 15:16:28 GMT -6
Bob Horner had a short career despite hitting above replacement every season he was in the majors. I have no idea the circumstances of his retirement though He homered four times in a loss. Poor guy.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 18, 2019 15:17:39 GMT -6
I guess if I'm going to point out Wagner, Rivera is up there too. He was 6-2 with 44 Saves and a 2.11 ERA (190 ERA+) his final season. Mike Mussina is another one. I think for Mussina, finally getting a 20-win season was the icing on the cake. Sadly, had he played one more season, he would’ve had that elusive ring.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 15:55:13 GMT -6
Koufax due to arm trouble retired too young sadly. 12 seasons of almost cruel domination, and had to retire at age 30.
IF he had lived in this era, and had access to the medical marvels of the day....... No telling.
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