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Post by Saint on Apr 5, 2019 9:57:22 GMT -6
So a week into the season and there have now been two starting pitchers removed who were in the process of throwing a no-hitter already. We've seen people taken out before but not this early in the season, to my recollection.
1. Old Loud Mouth Bauer yesterday after 7 innings and 117 pitches. (He had given up 6 walks.)
2. David Hess with Baltimore after 6.1 innings and 82 pitches. (He had pitched a few innings just a couple days prior.)
Are these just two fluke incidents or are we seeing the end to any relevance/value to throwing a complete game no-hitter? Has pitch count over taken the desire to achieve this feat? Am I just making threads that nobody cares about?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 5, 2019 10:07:17 GMT -6
I don't think most managers will allow them to continue much above 110 pitches. They are more concerned about the arm than about the no-no. So, if the pitcher is in a situation to throw a no hitter, without walking 6 batters and running up the pitch count...maybe
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 5, 2019 10:27:28 GMT -6
I remember Travis commenting on this trend a couple seasons back given the league avg. innings per start for starters is declining
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 5, 2019 10:58:03 GMT -6
I don't think most managers will allow them to continue much above 110 pitches. They are more concerned about the arm than about the no-no. So, if the pitcher is in a situation to throw a no hitter, without walking 6 batters and running up the pitch count...maybe Conclusion: Hinch didn’t care about Mike Fiers. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 5, 2019 11:06:51 GMT -6
I remember Travis commenting on this trend a couple seasons back given the league avg. innings per start for starters is declining Over the last few years it feels like it has gone from virtually unheard of to rare but not completely unusual given the circumstances and now to well even the pitcher thinks it's a good idea for them to come out. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 5, 2019 12:15:22 GMT -6
I remember Travis commenting on this trend a couple seasons back given the league avg. innings per start for starters is declining Over the last few years it feels like it has gone from virtually unheard of to rare but not completely unusual given the circumstances and now to well even the pitcher thinks it's a good idea for them to come out. So, the Jack Morris 10-inning CG’s are over? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2019 12:48:52 GMT -6
I remember Travis commenting on this trend a couple seasons back given the league avg. innings per start for starters is declining Travis is pretty smart. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 5, 2019 13:46:30 GMT -6
I remember Travis commenting on this trend a couple seasons back given the league avg. innings per start for starters is declining Travis is pretty smart. Most nerds/geeks are. |
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 5, 2019 15:44:44 GMT -6
Fiers didn't allow a run in his last two starts .. not sure if anyone saw. I'm guessing we face him this weekend
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Post by Saint on Apr 5, 2019 16:04:53 GMT -6
Over the last few years it feels like it has gone from virtually unheard of to rare but not completely unusual given the circumstances and now to well even the pitcher thinks it's a good idea for them to come out. So, the Jack Morris 10-inning CG’s are over? if anybody can do it, it would be Verlander. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 20:31:14 GMT -6
Fiers didn't allow a run in his last two starts .. not sure if anyone saw. I'm guessing we face him this weekend Yeah we face him on Sunday. |
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Post by abregmanfan on May 8, 2019 19:23:17 GMT -6
So a week into the season and there have now been two starting pitchers removed who were in the process of throwing a no-hitter already. We've seen people taken out before but not this early in the season, to my recollection. 1. Old Loud Mouth Bauer yesterday after 7 innings and 117 pitches. (He had given up 6 walks.) 2. David Hess with Baltimore after 6.1 innings and 82 pitches. (He had pitched a few innings just a couple days prior.) Are these just two fluke incidents or are we seeing the end to any relevance/value to throwing a complete game no-hitter? Has pitch count over taken the desire to achieve this feat? Am I just making threads that nobody cares about? Bump! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 8, 2019 20:22:26 GMT -6
I don't think most managers will allow them to continue much above 110 pitches. They are more concerned about the arm than about the no-no. So, if the pitcher is in a situation to throw a no hitter, without walking 6 batters and running up the pitch count...maybe Conclusion: Hinch didn’t care about Mike Fiers. Apparently not just Hinch |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 8, 2019 22:21:49 GMT -6
Conclusion: Hinch didn’t care about Mike Fiers. Apparently not just Hinch I think Hinch got tired of Fiers pouting when he came out to take him out of the game. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 8, 2019 22:27:49 GMT -6
I know I did.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 8, 2019 22:29:16 GMT -6
I think everybody did. I was glad to see him go. It's a shame we put Hader in a trade to get him and Gomez. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 9, 2019 8:31:35 GMT -6
I think everybody did. I was glad to see him go. It's a shame we put Hader in a trade to get him and Gomez. Josh James can almost be like Hader if he can limit the baserunners and bring back up the velocity. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 8, 2019 11:51:51 GMT -6
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