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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 16, 2019 15:09:50 GMT -6
Gosh, I know, that dumb big money all-star Stubbs. He should’ve hit a slam. Wait wait wait... You said money didn't matter before when comparing Gurriel and White. I never compared Gurriel and White. Nice try. The problem with the analogy you make between the two of them is it assumes one is good and the other is bad. I think they’re both doing poorly. The difference is I think White doesn’t deserve a roster spot whereas Gurriel is at least serviceable. Once White can show more power than Kemp, I’ll change my stance. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 16, 2019 15:10:26 GMT -6
Is White going to become the Pitcher when the Astros are losing big time?
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Post by Saint on Jun 16, 2019 15:16:58 GMT -6
Wait wait wait... You said money didn't matter before when comparing Gurriel and White. I never compared Gurriel and White. Nice try. The problem with the analogy you make between the two of them is it assumes one is good and the other is bad. I think they’re both doing poorly. The difference is I think White doesn’t deserve a roster spot whereas Gurriel is at least serviceable. Once White can show more power than Kemp, I’ll change my stance. Okay how about this "When I was comparing White and Gurriel you implied the cost difference didn't matter". Sorry. I wasn't aware I had to stress semantics with you of all people. The bottom line is that poor approaches are poor approaches no matter how much they get paid. A walk to load the bases is better than swinging at bad pitches to try and drive in a run. Swinging at bad pitches rarely ends up in success. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 16, 2019 15:18:19 GMT -6
I never compared Gurriel and White. Nice try. The problem with the analogy you make between the two of them is it assumes one is good and the other is bad. I think they’re both doing poorly. The difference is I think White doesn’t deserve a roster spot whereas Gurriel is at least serviceable. Once White can show more power than Kemp, I’ll change my stance. Okay how about this "When I was comparing White and Gurriel you implied the cost difference didn't matter". Sorry. I wasn't aware I had to stress semantics with you of all people. The bottom line is that poor approaches are poor approaches no matter how much they get paid. A walk to load the bases is better than swinging at bad pitches to try and drive in a run. Swinging at bad pitches rarely ends up in success. But White taking up space while sucking is okay because he doesn’t get paid much. Also, you make it seem like I’ve defended Gurriel’s lack of production. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 16, 2019 15:22:24 GMT -6
Okay how about this "When I was comparing White and Gurriel you implied the cost difference didn't matter". Sorry. I wasn't aware I had to stress semantics with you of all people. The bottom line is that poor approaches are poor approaches no matter how much they get paid. A walk to load the bases is better than swinging at bad pitches to try and drive in a run. Swinging at bad pitches rarely ends up in success. But White taking up space while sucking is okay because he doesn’t get paid much. Also, you make it seem like I’ve defended Gurriel’s lack Of production. It was okay earlier in the season when it was worth giving him a chance. It won't be okay once our Stars are back. No, I'm pointing out that the money difference between the two didn't seem to matter in the other thread. But now suddenly it does when comparing the Bregman AB and Stubbs AB. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 16, 2019 15:26:01 GMT -6
But White taking up space while sucking is okay because he doesn’t get paid much. Also, you make it seem like I’ve defended Gurriel’s lack Of production. It was okay earlier in the season when it was worth giving him a chance. It won't be okay once our Stars are back. No, I'm pointing out that the money difference between the two didn't seem to matter in the other thread. But now suddenly it does when comparing the Bregman AB and Stubbs AB. I expect different things from different players. My previous point with Bregman was never about walks being bad but about aggressiveness. If he walks with runners and second and third with 1 out, I’m not ecstatic because his job is also run production. Sometimes, he looks a tad passive. And back to expectations, I wasn’t expecting anything from Stubbs when Bregman walked, and I rarely expect anything meaningful from White. Regardless of the stats, I expect more from Gurriel than White. Finally, if you stink you stink. It doesn’t matter how much you earn for stinking. If White strikes out with RISP (again) to end a close game, no one is going to say to themselves, “It’s okay because it’s not like he’s making much money!” |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 16, 2019 17:26:16 GMT -6
Tbere was no discussion. You made an asinine comment and I gave you an asinine reply. My comment was relevant to Sherwin's reply. Again though, thanks for showing up. Participation trophy to you, sir. Maybe you like participation trophies, but, I don't believe in them. They create spineless wimps who are afraid of competion. Lots of the snowflakes who have been whining since the 2016 election probably finished last and still got rewarded with trophies.  As for Perez, I agree with your point about his not being hammered if he made better pitches. His location was terrible. We need to find a dependable, lefty reliever. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 16, 2019 17:27:05 GMT -6
Is White going to become the Pitcher when the Astros are losing big time? That is all he is qualified to do. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 16, 2019 17:28:33 GMT -6
I never compared Gurriel and White. Nice try. The problem with the analogy you make between the two of them is it assumes one is good and the other is bad. I think they’re both doing poorly. The difference is I think White doesn’t deserve a roster spot whereas Gurriel is at least serviceable. Once White can show more power than Kemp, I’ll change my stance. Okay how about this "When I was comparing White and Gurriel you implied the cost difference didn't matter". Sorry. I wasn't aware I had to stress semantics with you of all people. The bottom line is that poor approaches are poor approaches no matter how much they get paid. A walk to load the bases is better than swinging at bad pitches to try and drive in a run. Swinging at bad pitches rarely ends up in success. Roberto Clemente and Vladimir Guerrero made the HOF swinging at bad pitches. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 17, 2019 8:51:42 GMT -6
Okay how about this "When I was comparing White and Gurriel you implied the cost difference didn't matter". Sorry. I wasn't aware I had to stress semantics with you of all people. The bottom line is that poor approaches are poor approaches no matter how much they get paid. A walk to load the bases is better than swinging at bad pitches to try and drive in a run. Swinging at bad pitches rarely ends up in success. Roberto Clemente and Vladimir Guerrero made the HOF swinging at bad pitches. They were also elite level level athletes with skills that less than a percent of a percent of people have. Not 26 year old backup catchers. Most players aren't successful swinging at bad pitches. You know that. P.S. Vlad also walked almost 60 times a year. |
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