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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 14:48:01 GMT -6
Revisting the Pirates trade and former Astros watch for those players:
Pitchers: (about as expected although Feliz is having a better year)
J.Musgrove 8-12 4.74 ERA 7.9 K/9, 1.24 WHIP
M.Feliz 2-3 3.55 ERA 11.0 K/9. 1.18 WHIP
Hitters: (Moran having a breakout season for him)
C.Moran 368 ABs .283 Avg, 11 HRs, 65 RBIs, .331 OB% (-0.2 WAR)
J.Martin 36 ABs .250 Avg, 0 HRs, 2 RBIs, .308 OB% (-0.4 WAR)
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 8:19:34 GMT -6
So since that 8-run drumming by Miami, Keuchel has thrown 19 innings with only 1 run allowed. His ERA+ is now up to 122. He very well may end up the Game 1 starter for ATL in the NLDS.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 26, 2019 8:20:53 GMT -6
So since that 8-run drumming by Miami, Keuchel has thrown 19 innings with only 1 run allowed. His ERA+ is now up to 122. He very well may end up the Game 1 starter for ATL in the NLDS. Do think some team offers him a 3 year/60M deal after this season? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 8:32:32 GMT -6
So since that 8-run drumming by Miami, Keuchel has thrown 19 innings with only 1 run allowed. His ERA+ is now up to 122. He very well may end up the Game 1 starter for ATL in the NLDS. Do think some team offers him a 3 year/60M deal after this season? I think the most he should reasonably hope for is a 3-year $45 million. He continues to be an above-average pitcher at not allowing runs (reflected by the at-the-moment all-star caliber ERA+), but he is still allowing a ton of baserunners. He could probably get a 4-year deal still if he is willing to accept less AAV. Otherwise, his best bet is probably on one-year deals heavy with incentives. But who knows anymore. These last two offseason FA markets have been crazy. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 26, 2019 9:38:20 GMT -6
I don't care what Keuchel gets as long as we don't give it to him.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 9:39:26 GMT -6
I don't care what Keuchel gets as long as we don't give it to him. Truth. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 9:41:58 GMT -6
Do think some team offers him a 3 year/60M deal after this season? I think the most he should reasonably hope for is a 3-year $45 million. He continues to be an above-average pitcher at not allowing runs (reflected by the at-the-moment all-star caliber ERA+), but he is still allowing a ton of baserunners. He could probably get a 4-year deal still if he is willing to accept less AAV. Otherwise, his best bet is probably on one-year deals heavy with incentives. But who knows anymore. These last two offseason FA markets have been crazy. I think he’s benefitting from Swanson and Albies up the middle. He’s a defense and umpire-dependent pitcher. I also think he would benefit more from less exaggerated shifts. It wasn’t the best fit for him here last season. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 10:43:33 GMT -6
I think the most he should reasonably hope for is a 3-year $45 million. He continues to be an above-average pitcher at not allowing runs (reflected by the at-the-moment all-star caliber ERA+), but he is still allowing a ton of baserunners. He could probably get a 4-year deal still if he is willing to accept less AAV. Otherwise, his best bet is probably on one-year deals heavy with incentives. But who knows anymore. These last two offseason FA markets have been crazy. I think he’s benefitting from Swanson and Albies up the middle. He’s a defense and umpire-dependent pitcher. I also think he would benefit more from less exaggerated shifts. It wasn’t the best fit for him here last season. I don't know why you'd think he would benefit that much from them compared to Correa and Altuve. It's a minimal difference if any. And he's having the success even with a higher walk rate. He's just continuing to do a good job at getting soft contact. I know most people here don't care for him, but he's the kind of pitcher that could stick around and be productive for a long time since he isn't velocity dependent. A lot of his potential FA offers will depend on how he does in the postseason. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 26, 2019 12:09:55 GMT -6
I think he’s benefitting from Swanson and Albies up the middle. He’s a defense and umpire-dependent pitcher. I also think he would benefit more from less exaggerated shifts. It wasn’t the best fit for him here last season. I don't know why you'd think he would benefit that much from them compared to Correa and Altuve. It's a minimal difference if any. And he's having the success even with a higher walk rate. He's just continuing to do a good job at getting soft contact. I know most people here don't care for him, but he's the kind of pitcher that could stick around and be productive for a long time since he isn't velocity dependent. A lot of his potential FA offers will depend on how he does in the postseason. I just feel that with guys like him, an extreme shift minimizes double play chances. Correa’s great defense is mainly due to his great arm, in my opinion. I don’t feel Altuve has the best range. I do think Swanson and Albies are superior defensively whereas overall, Correa and Altuve are light years beyond them. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 12:31:52 GMT -6
I don't know why you'd think he would benefit that much from them compared to Correa and Altuve. It's a minimal difference if any. And he's having the success even with a higher walk rate. He's just continuing to do a good job at getting soft contact. I know most people here don't care for him, but he's the kind of pitcher that could stick around and be productive for a long time since he isn't velocity dependent. A lot of his potential FA offers will depend on how he does in the postseason. I just feel that with guys like him, an extreme shift minimizes double play chances. Correa’s great defense is mainly due to his great arm, in my opinion. I don’t feel Altuve has the best range. I do think Swanson and Albies are superior defensively whereas overall, Correa and Altuve are light years beyond them. I haven't looked at all their range factors and such, but from a basic defensive WAR you're talking like only a .2 total difference between the duos. In any case, whatever it is, Keuchel continues to limit runs despite the high volume of baserunners. It makes it hard to think what he's really worth. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Aug 26, 2019 14:25:42 GMT -6
I think the most he should reasonably hope for is a 3-year $45 million. He continues to be an above-average pitcher at not allowing runs (reflected by the at-the-moment all-star caliber ERA+), but he is still allowing a ton of baserunners. He could probably get a 4-year deal still if he is willing to accept less AAV. Otherwise, his best bet is probably on one-year deals heavy with incentives. But who knows anymore. These last two offseason FA markets have been crazy. I think he’s benefitting from Swanson and Albies up the middle. He’s a defense and umpire-dependent pitcher. I also think he would benefit more from less exaggerated shifts. It wasn’t the best fit for him here last season. Hasn't Swanson been on the injured list the last month? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 26, 2019 14:43:46 GMT -6
I think he’s benefitting from Swanson and Albies up the middle. He’s a defense and umpire-dependent pitcher. I also think he would benefit more from less exaggerated shifts. It wasn’t the best fit for him here last season. Hasn't Swanson been on the injured list the last month? Yes. Good point. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 14:52:58 GMT -6
I think the most he should reasonably hope for is a 3-year $45 million. He continues to be an above-average pitcher at not allowing runs (reflected by the at-the-moment all-star caliber ERA+), but he is still allowing a ton of baserunners. He could probably get a 4-year deal still if he is willing to accept less AAV. Otherwise, his best bet is probably on one-year deals heavy with incentives. But who knows anymore. These last two offseason FA markets have been crazy. I think he’s benefitting from Swanson and Albies up the middle. He’s a defense and umpire-dependent pitcher. I also think he would benefit more from less exaggerated shifts. It wasn’t the best fit for him here last season. There is something to that. I wouldn't mind if the Astros didn't shift that often when Greinke is on the mound next (but hey he's 4-0 as an Astro so why mess with a winning formula) |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 1, 2019 18:56:33 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 18:58:25 GMT -6
Wait, so we won't get an automatic out against the Dodgers in the playoffs now!? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 1, 2019 20:28:27 GMT -6
Probably ate himself onto the IL
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Post by paastrosfan on Sept 4, 2019 14:53:43 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Sept 4, 2019 15:53:24 GMT -6
CC should be thrown under the bus. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Sept 4, 2019 16:05:11 GMT -6
CC should be thrown under the bus. I like to show some patience, now if CC's career turns into another Jed Lowrie, then I could see your point. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 4, 2019 16:23:12 GMT -6
CC should be thrown under the bus. I don't think anyone here doesn't think Carlos is a good/great player...but seeing that he is often injured, his FA in 2022, other players needing to be re-signed or extended and team's needs at both positions and salary restraint, then the 🎯 is on him, for a player to be traded.... |
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Post by paastrosfan on Sept 4, 2019 16:36:43 GMT -6
CC should be thrown under the bus. I don't think anyone here doesn't think Carlos is a good/great player...but seeing that he is often injured, his FA in 2022, other players needing to be re-signed or extended and team's needs at both positions and salary restraint, then the 🎯 is on him, for a player to be traded.... Just say the Stros put CC on the market, what teams would you see as likely fits for him. Taking a look at the Yankees, hopefully Bortaz will give me a pass, DD is a free agent after this season. Then they had Andujar on the disabled list all season a good prospect. The Yankees would be a team taking a chance for all the contracts they eat that are duds. The top tier teams all have solid SS, it would be interesting to see where a deal could be made. |
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Post by olpapa on Sept 15, 2019 17:52:07 GMT -6
JD Davis has put together a good year for the Mets. Was batting .307 with a .881 OPS coming into today’s game. I always liked Davis. He was just blocked in Houston.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 18:41:36 GMT -6
Reposting here:
HAHA, former Astro Michael Feliz tried to appeal to 3rd base to see if the last runner was out and airmailed the ball. The result, former Astro Tony Kemp who was on third) scored.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 15, 2019 20:50:58 GMT -6
CC should be thrown under the bus. I like to show some patience, now if CC's career turns into another Jed Lowrie, then I could see your point. He has yet to play a game for the Mets. |
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Post by m240 on Sept 15, 2019 21:12:56 GMT -6
JD Davis has put together a good year for the Mets. Was batting .307 with a .881 OPS coming into today’s game. I always liked Davis. He was just blocked in Houston. Good for him, glad he made the most of his chance. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 1, 2019 7:36:08 GMT -6
So final numbers for the ex-Astros:
Morton: 16-6 3.05 ERA (146 ERA+) 195 IP 240 K
Keuchel: 8-8 3.75 ERA (121 ERA+) 112 IP 91 K
White: 3 HR 23 RBI .208/.308/.304 .612 OPS (63 OPS+)
Kemp: 8 HR 29 RBI .212/.291/.380 .671 OPS (73 OPS+)
Fisher: 7 HR 17 RBI .185/.287/.370 .657 OPS (74 OPS+)
Fiers: 15-4 3.90 ERA (110 ERA+) 184 IP 126 K
Stassi: 1 HR 5 RBI .136/.211/.167 .378 OPS (3 OPS+)
Giles: 2-3 23 Saves 1.87 ERA (244 ERA+) 53 IP 83 K
All of the pitchers would form a pretty solid core to a rotation plus a closer. The position players, all horrible.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 9:10:14 GMT -6
So final numbers for the ex-Astros: Morton: 16-6 3.05 ERA (146 ERA+) 195 IP 240 K Keuchel: 8-8 3.75 ERA (121 ERA+) 112 IP 91 K White: 3 HR 23 RBI .208/.308/.304 .612 OPS (63 OPS+) Kemp: 8 HR 29 RBI .212/.291/.380 .671 OPS (73 OPS+) Fisher: 7 HR 17 RBI .185/.287/.370 .657 OPS (74 OPS+) Fiers: 15-4 3.90 ERA (110 ERA+) 184 IP 126 K Stassi: 1 HR 5 RBI .136/.211/.167 .378 OPS (3 OPS+) Giles: 2-3 23 Saves 1.87 ERA (244 ERA+) 53 IP 83 K All of the pitchers would form a pretty solid core to a rotation plus a closer. The position players, all horrible. (IMO)... Kuechel was overpaid Fiers was an anomoly, Rod Serling couldn't explain CFM... Yeah that hurt, but if he was here, we wouldn't have Greinke Giles- That nut job? I still think he would creack under the stress of a pennant race. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 1, 2019 10:01:39 GMT -6
So final numbers for the ex-Astros: Morton: 16-6 3.05 ERA (146 ERA+) 195 IP 240 K Keuchel: 8-8 3.75 ERA (121 ERA+) 112 IP 91 K White: 3 HR 23 RBI .208/.308/.304 .612 OPS (63 OPS+) Kemp: 8 HR 29 RBI .212/.291/.380 .671 OPS (73 OPS+) Fisher: 7 HR 17 RBI .185/.287/.370 .657 OPS (74 OPS+) Fiers: 15-4 3.90 ERA (110 ERA+) 184 IP 126 K Stassi: 1 HR 5 RBI .136/.211/.167 .378 OPS (3 OPS+) Giles: 2-3 23 Saves 1.87 ERA (244 ERA+) 53 IP 83 K All of the pitchers would form a pretty solid core to a rotation plus a closer. The position players, all horrible. (IMO)... Kuechel was overpaid Fiers was an anomoly, Rod Serling couldn't explain CFM... Yeah that hurt, but if he was here, we wouldn't have Greinke Giles- That nut job? I still think he would creack under the stress of a pennant race. Sounds about right. |
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Post by Saint on Oct 4, 2019 10:05:49 GMT -6
Forgot to include one-hit wonder Marwin Gonzalez:
15 HR 55 RBI 52 Runs .264/.322/.414 .736 OPS (94 OPS+) 1.6 WAR
His offense was nothing amazing, but it wasn't horrible. And he did play 6 positions for the Twins including 13 or more starts at 4 of those with overall solid-good defense.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Oct 4, 2019 10:18:25 GMT -6
Forgot to include one-hit wonder Marwin Gonzalez: 15 HR 55 RBI 52 Runs .264/.322/.414 .736 OPS (94 OPS+) 1.6 WAR His offense was nothing amazing, but it wasn't horrible. And he did play 6 positions for the Twins including 13 or more starts at 4 of those with overall solid-good defense. I'd forgotten about him, thankfully. |
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